Why haven't African Americans assimilated into American culture...?

[Canna Sylvan]

thats not the conclusion of the cited report.

it clearly states that increasing "white" failure is almost as good as improving minority success.

and i am not a "zero summer" whatever you imagine that clumsy phrase to mean.

i suppose you are alluding to the common misconception that our economy is a Zero Sum Game, where every success is stolen from the hands of others, yet that is a common trope among leftists, democrats and Occupy-Tards, not conservatives.

conservatives believe in a level playing field, and that success comes from the individual's hard work, talent dedication and luck.

lefties believe in a tilted playing feild where advantages are doled out to the "deserving" (usually by race) and obstacles are placed in the path of the undeserving (again, usually by race).

that is the primary focus of the "War On Poverty", the "99%" horeshit, and the Occupy-Tards.

Success is "stolen" from others. That's what leads to innovation. Fear motivates. Why do better if you're content? That's the biggest flaw with the leftist wet dream, communism; and the eventual boredom.

 

[ChesusRice]

Success is "stolen" from others. That's what leads to innovation. Fear motivates. Why do better if you're content? That's the biggest flaw with the leftist wet dream, communism; and the eventual boredom.

Warren Buffet and Bill Gates are so called leftists So is George Soros

Are they communists?

 

[echelon1k1]

Warren Buffet and Bill Gates are so called leftists So is George Soros

Are they communists?

No they are your commander in queefs puppet masters...

 

[Canna Sylvan]

No they are your commander in queefs puppet masters...

To answer the dumb ass' question, yes they're communists. Most leftist assholes want everyone else to follow unfair rules. Like painting your house so America doesn't look like Mexico is unfair. Yet forcing people to pay for crappy obamatax is your duty.

 

[Beefbisquit]

it clearly states a desire for new racially targeted programs to try and close the "achievement gap" by throwing more taxpayers money at racially motivated target groups.

To close the achievement gap that's been created by years of racially motivated lack of funding for minorities, and lack of opportunity. If you live in Alabama and you were black, you weren't allowed to enroll in University until 1963. How in the fuck are black people supposed to give their children a higher education if white people kept kicking them out of schools?

KKKynes, your idiocy astounds me. You just keep getting more and more retarded everyday! If anything, we should be using tax payer money to get KKKynes an education so he's not so fucking clueless.

are you naturally stupid or do you have to work at tit?

I've never worked at 'tit'. Tits always just seem to find me...

that quote was Pre-Cherry-Picked by the authors, it is in a special little box with emphasis and a larger typeface and italics to ensure that it is the "takeaway message" for people who just skimmed it, or didnt even bother to read it at all.

You're even more retarded than the bible thumpers that attempt to draw hidden meaning from archaic bible verses and apply them to modern issues.

then you didnt understand it.

I understand the paper. I also understand that you've already come to fore drawn conclusions before reading it. It wouldn't matter what evidence is shown to you, you're a bigot, and a racist and have no intention of changing. Might as well be talking to Fred Phelps... I'm sure he's one of your heroes.

you cited it, without any commentary, so i must assume you stand by it's conclusions, which are:
1 ) minorities deserve speical help regardless of "SES" because they are failing, even in relation to their non-minority counterparts in the same "SES" bracket.

Refer to above statement. No access to equal education means less educated minorities. It's a fact you semi-illiterate piece of trash.

2 ) programs should be tailored to exclude or avoid helping "whites" because they deserve to fall behind, thus making it easier for minorities to catch up.

The article doesn't say that. That's your spin on the article. The article says that even if programs weren't specifically targeted at minorities, minorities would still benefit.

3 ) Lowered Expectations will help minorities.

You're such a simpleton. You don't understand what the article says, so you make your own 'pre-school friendly version' that over simplifies and outright lies about the actual content of the article. Who are you trying to impress? Because this is just sad and pathetic. It's not lowered expectations, it's attempting to raise the lowest common denominator. Sorry to use big 'math words', I know you're borderline retarded so here's a simpler explanation:

A denominator is what's on the bottom of a fraction. It's what determines how many pieces in the whole, we're talking about.

4 ) "SES" is a lie, its really about race and special racial set-asides.

You mean it's about the races, that until very recently, were 'brushed aside'?

read it again (for the first time) and see if you can catch the entirely NOT HIDDEN overt message

Maybe you should learn to read?



Here's a quote for you KKKynes; take it to heart because you're a bigot.



“If someone doesn’t value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide that proves they should value evidence.

If someone doesn’t value logic, what logical argument would you invoke to prove they should value logic?”


― Sam Harris

 

[Canna Sylvan]

Beef, you're an idiot. I see no difference between you and a psycho christian. You base your "logic" on warm and fuzzy, or icky and disgusted. Yes it makes us feel good when the bad guy fails. It's also ok to feel sympathy for the shit they went through in life. But individuals or each individual in a group, whether it's a race, SES or any other liberal excuse you come up with, make choices. If YOU want to donate money or volunteer time because your fucked up mind compells you to feel sympathy for scum who shoot a clerk and watches him die while eating a sandwitch, that's your sick fettish. Their lack of morals, motivation or intelligence isn't my problem.

 

[Beefbisquit]

Beef, you're an idiot. I see no difference between you and a psycho christian. You base your "logic" on warm and fuzzy, or icky and disgusted. Yes it makes us feel good when the bad guy fails. It's also ok to feel sympathy for the shit they went through in life. But individuals or each individual in a group, whether it's a race, SES or any other liberal excuse you come up with, make choices. If YOU want to donate money or volunteer time because your fucked up mind compells you to feel sympathy for scum who shoot a clerk and watches him die while eating a sandwitch, that's your sick fettish. Their lack of morals, motivation or intelligence isn't my problem.

Wow, you just summed up minorities as "scum who shoot a clerk and watches him die while eating a sandwich", you don't see the problem with that statement? You're what wrong with the world.

It has nothing to do with 'icky feelings' but the actual measurable differences between different classes and races pertaining to social mobility.

 

[UncleBuck]

Beef, you're an idiot. I see no difference between you and a psycho christian. You base your "logic" on warm and fuzzy, or icky and disgusted. Yes it makes us feel good when the bad guy fails. It's also ok to feel sympathy for the shit they went through in life. But individuals or each individual in a group, whether it's a race, SES or any other liberal excuse you come up with, make choices. If YOU want to donate money or volunteer time because your fucked up mind compells you to feel sympathy for scum who shoot a clerk and watches him die while eating a sandwitch, that's your sick fettish. Their lack of morals, motivation or intelligence isn't my problem.

i really hope you're just trolling, because otherwise this ranks you right up there with a few others.

 

[Rob Roy]

Warren Buffet and Bill Gates are so called leftists So is George Soros

Are they communists?

They are opportunists willing to use government regulation to their benefit.

 

[Dr Kynes]

Warren Buffet and Bill Gates are so called leftists So is George Soros

Are they communists?

warren buffet is a touchy feelie liberal billionaire who wants to cure all the world's inequities, just not with his own money. he is a leftist in the classic Limousine Liberal sense, or as trotsky put it, a "Fellow Traveller"

Bill Gates is likewise another Limousine Liberal.

George Soros is a CLASSIC FASCIST. he uses capitalism to subvert liberty, with the final aim being a marxist totalitarian state by bankrupting non-marxist states to force "reform". if he had a cadre of uniformed bandits with red stars on their berets and attacked nations with arms instead of finances he would be a fat che guevara

none of them are communists, communists dont try to force non-communists to submit to their regime, they are all 3 varying flavours of socialist tough. and socialism is the Marxist halfway point.

 

[Dr Kynes]

To close the achievement gap that's been created by years of racially motivated lack of funding for minorities, and lack of opportunity. If you live in Alabama and you were black, you weren't allowed to enroll in University until 1963. How in the fuck are black people supposed to give their children a higher education if white people kept kicking them out of schools?
KKKynes, your idiocy astounds me. You just keep getting more and more retarded everyday! If anything, we should be using tax payer money to get KKKynes an education so he's not so fucking clueless.
I've never worked at 'tit'. Tits always just seem to find me...

you didnt read the citation, and if you did you clearly didnt understand it. so now you resort to silly name calling and picking out typos as your last defense for your indefensible position.

You're even more retarded than the bible thumpers that attempt to draw hidden meaning from archaic bible verses and apply them to modern issues.

the "cherry picked" quote was set apart and emphasized as the "takeaway message" by the authors. theres no hidden meaning. no chicken entrails are required to find the meaning, if you actually read it.


~ http://myboe.org/cognoti/content/file/resources/documents/4f/4f87f930/4f87f93002fcc017761245e6c1381363c52213d1/markman__brooksgunn.pdf pg 17

hey look there it is. in it's own little sidebar
Racially Targeted Programs, if you feel like actually reading the "report" you can read the other shit too. like this one which you pretend doesnt say EXACTLY what i say it does.

"If parenting interventions are to narrow ethnic and racial school readiness gaps, they must meet one of several conditions.
First, effective interventions should be offered to proportionately more minority than nonminority families.
Second, even if programs were not provided to more minority than nonminority families, they could still reduce the racial gaps if they were more beneficial to black than white parents.
Third, even if parenting programs were not more effective for black and hispanic than white parents, they could still narrow ethnic and racial differences if they were more beneficial to mother with certain characteristics, such as being young or poorly educated, that are more prevalent among black and hispanic mothers than white mothers."
~ http://myboe.org/cognoti/content/fil...brooksgunn.pdf pg 16

I understand the paper. I also understand that you've already come to fore drawn conclusions before reading it. It wouldn't matter what evidence is shown to you, you're a bigot, and a racist and have no intention of changing. Might as well be talking to Fred Phelps... I'm sure he's one of your heroes.

you SAY you understand it, then demonstrate that you clearly do not. thats what we call "Bein' Stupid" 'round here.

Refer to above statement. No access to equal education means less educated minorities. It's a fact you semi-illiterate piece of trash.

and yet your own citation concludes that there should be UNEQUAL access to programs, thus making you a fool

The article doesn't say that. That's your spin on the article. The article says that even if programs weren't specifically targeted at minorities, minorities would still benefit.

"If parenting interventions are to narrow ethnic and racial school readiness gaps, they must meet one of several conditions.
First, effective interventions should be offered to proportionately more minority than nonminority families.
Second, even if programs were not provided to more minority than nonminority families, they could still reduce the racial gaps if they were more beneficial to black than white parents.
Third, even if parenting programs were not more effective for black and hispanic than white parents, they could still narrow ethnic and racial differences if they were more beneficial to mother with certain characteristics, such as being young or poorly educated, that are more prevalent among black and hispanic mothers than white mothers."
~ http://myboe.org/cognoti/content/fil...brooksgunn.pdf pg 16

read it again. you are clearly either illiterate, intellectually lazy or you are simply in denial.

You're such a simpleton. You don't understand what the article says, so you make your own 'pre-school friendly version' that over simplifies and outright lies about the actual content of the article. Who are you trying to impress? Because this is just sad and pathetic. It's not lowered expectations, it's attempting to raise the lowest common denominator. Sorry to use big 'math words', I know you're borderline retarded so here's a simpler explanation:

A denominator is what's on the bottom of a fraction. It's what determines how many pieces in the whole, we're talking about.

ooooohh fancy math talk !! that must mean you knows wut youse talkin about!

and yet this "report" suggests that if you cannot raise the numerator, lowering the denominator is almost as good.

You mean it's about the races, that until very recently, were 'brushed aside'?
Maybe you should learn to read?
Here's a quote for you KKKynes; take it to heart because you're a bigot.
“If someone doesn’t value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide that proves they should value evidence.
If someone doesn’t value logic, what logical argument would you invoke to prove they should value logic?”
― Sam Harris

and your final plaintive cries are as pointless as your entire existence has proven to be.

YOU cited a "report" that demanded INEQUALITY based on race to somehow give reparations for perceived past injustices, and yes, i said Perceived!

you think every poor person in america is the result of centuries of "SES" oppression or racial injustice?

we got this thing down here called IMMIGRATION, and unlike canada, nobody has to prove their worth to get in. in fact our government actively encourages illegal immigration from all parts of the third world.

even our Bagger Vance President got caught claiming his "slavery roots" despite not one drop of blood, and he was raised in a privileged household in indonesia.

it's a cop out, a lie, and an excuse. improving the lives of the poor, and programs to help stuggling families get on the right track should NOT be apportioned out based on race, but should be available to all.

you are a racist, and a fool.

 

[UncleBuck]

...perceived past injustices...

 

[Dr Kynes]

yes. THIS GUY claimed he was the victim of slavery, then when he was told that his father was born in kenya, and nobody he is related to was ever a slave, he backpedaled, and made a new story about how "oppressed" his daughters are by virtue of being the daughter of a descendant of salves through MooChelle.

he was raised in privilege in indonesia, got perks and scholarships as an "Exchange Student", lied on his biography, lied in his books, lied about his parentage, lied about his "hard knock life" and used his Blackitude to get anything he could grab, despite having no need for it.

we gonna have special racial set-asides, programs and reparations for Prince Hakim too?

 

[tokeprep]

Warren Buffet and Bill Gates are so called leftists So is George Soros

Are they communists?

Interestingly, both men have paid very little in federal tax for all their preaching about how the rich need to pay more.

Warren Buffett is steadily donating almost all of his fortune to the Gates Foundation; Gates donated about $30 billion to the foundation. None of this money was taxed at all. Ever. We're talking about $100 billion!

 

[echelon1k1]

Interestingly, both men have paid very little in federal tax for all their preaching about how the rich need to pay more.

Warren Buffett is steadily donating almost all of his fortune to the Gates Foundation; Gates donated about $30 billion to the foundation. None of this money was taxed at all. Ever. We're talking about $100 billion!

and what are those foundations primarily involved with?

 

[Dr Kynes]

and what are those foundations primarily involved with?

leftist causes.

just like soros' "foundation" "The Tides".

advancing leftist thought and leftist ideology by big money "charitable" tax deductions and programs which ensure that leftism becomes the Groupthink De Jour.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

leftist causes.

just like soros' "foundation" "The Tides".

advancing leftist thought and leftist ideology by big money "charitable" tax deductions and programs which ensure that leftism becomes the Groupthink De Jour.

That sounds like marketing.

 

[echelon1k1]

leftist causes.

just like soros' "foundation" "The Tides".

advancing leftist thought and leftist ideology by big money "charitable" tax deductions and programs which ensure that leftism becomes the Groupthink De Jour.

Leftist causes? I thought you were a little bit smarter than that, these people invented the left/right paradigm...

 

[Dr Kynes]

Leftist causes? I thought you were a little bit smarter than that, these people invented the left/right paradigm...

The Brothers Gracchi would disagree.

they started running that game in 133 bc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gracchi

Edit: this is of course a sugar-coated 99%'er Occupy-Tard re-imagining of the words and deeds of these two Original Gangsta Sedan Chair Liberals.

the real facts are considerably more disturbing, but you would need to take a classical history course from a non-leftist to get the straight dope.

they promised a free ride and giveaways from the rich to the poor (but not their own shit of course...) and were shocked and surprised when the plebs were more interested in scrambling over their corpses for handouts than returning to subsistence farm labour.

 

[echelon1k1]

The Brothers Gracchi would disagree.

they started running that game in 133 bc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gracchi

Edit: this is of course a sugar-coated 99%'er Occupy-Tard re-imagining of the words and deeds of these two Original Gangsta Sedan Chair Liberals.

the real facts are considerably more disturbing, but you would need to take a classical history course from a non-leftist to get the straight dope.

they promised a free ride and giveaways from the rich to the poor (but not their own shit of course...) and were shocked and surprised when the plebs were more interested in scrambling over their corpses for handouts than returning to subsistence farm labour.

I should've said its current incarnation we are witness to...