New beginnings 2400w later!!

rarebreed619

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What kind of panel are you using? Seems to have a lot of blue might not be the best for flowering... 720w seems like a lot for LED, given the size of the unit. Idk specs so not calling bull shit, just do not see 720w worth of diodes there is all. Should check the manf. specs on coverage and height, usually led companies aim for less watts is the only reason I ask. If it is actually pulling 720 at the plug it should be able to cover your area at proper height but hard for me to say, wish I knew more about led tech but there is a lot to learn.
it's a LG solutions limited mars 11 1200w full spectrum 5w led 720w actual. I believe it's 11 band w/ir and uv.Says to run them 3.5ft above canopy.There's a guy over on 420 mag that runs the 900w 500+ actual draw. This is the biggest they make, had 2 but sold one. Should be enough was looking for other opinions. I'm new to led also and did some research before purchase.
 

rarebreed619

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update: got the co2 gen setup and tested pretty fing cool :-D, just waiting on my bud to bring the sentinel chhc-4 over. He wants my sentinel dec_4 and $130, said deal. when running co2 from what I have read you run the room 83f is this correct?
 

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Javadog

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I have read that it can be higher. I did not know that
it needs to be. ...not worked with it before. Good luck.

JD
 

rarebreed619

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Ok copied and pasted, not taking credit:

First a little Plant Science 101 - For a successful, productive garden, hydroponic, indoor and greenhouse growers must control six "essential elements" - air, light, nutrients, water, humidity and temperature. Remove or alter the ratio of only one of these elements, growth will slow, and plants could eventually die. In this article, we will review the air element, specifically carbon dioxide (CO2), it's role in the most vital plant process - photosynthesis - and how to effectively implement CO2 systems.

Photosynthesis begins when stomata, pore-like openings on the undersides of leaves, are activated by light and begin breathing in carbon dioxide (CO2) from the air. This CO2 is broken down into carbon (C) and oxygen (O). Some of the O is used for other plants processes, but most is expelled back into the air. The C is combined with water to form sugar molecules, which are then converted into carbohydrates. These carbohydrates (starches) combine with nutrients, such as nitrogen, to produce new plant tissues. CO2 is vital to plant growth and development, and yet is often the most overlooked element in indoor gardening.

Successful indoor growers implement methods to increase CO2 concentrations in their enclosure. The typical outdoor air we breathe contains 0.03 - 0.045% (300 - 450 ppm) CO2. Research demonstrates that optimum growth and production for most plants occur between 1200 - 1500 ppm CO2. These optimum CO2 levels can boost plant metabolism, growth and yield by 25 - 60%.

Plants under effective CO2 enrichment and management display thicker, lush green leaves, an abundance of fragrant fruit and flowers, and stronger, more vigorous roots. CO2 enriched plants grow rapidly and must also be supplied with the other five "essential elements" to ensure proper development and a plentiful harvest.

Commercially available CO2 generators offer the most economical, practical and consistent method of enriching indoor gardens. Using atmospheric control systems in conjunction with CO2 generators, ensure the most effective production and use of CO2.

Atmospheric control systems with automatic override or defeat, and CO2 monitoring logic, enrich and maintain optimum levels in the environment during the photo (light) periods, when most plants can absorb CO2; and they defeat CO2 production during dark periods. Automating your CO2 enrichment system pays for itself quickly with shorter crop cycles, improved quality and higher yields.

When enriching an indoor garden with CO2, proper light is essential for effective assimilation. For plants to use CO2 efficiently, light spectrum and intensity should be appropriate for the plant species in your garden. Remember - CO2 enriched plants under intensified lighting demand higher levels of nutrients, water, space and room temperatures of 80-85 F. (27 - 29 C.).

As CO2 is a critical component of growth, plants in environments with inadequate CO2 levels - below 200 ppm - will cease to grow or produce. And, growers should be cautious when experimenting with CO2 levels above 2000 ppm. CO2 is heavier than oxygen and will displace the O2 required by both plants and human to function and live. (FYI: OSHA max allowable for human exposure is 5000 PPM). So, air circulation and ventilation is critical to profitable CO2 enrichment.

Plants use all of the CO2 around their leaves within a few minutes leaving the air around them CO2 deficient. Without air circulation and ventilation, the plants' stomata are stifled and plant growth is stunted.

Proper air circulation with oscillating fans and in-line blowers, will eliminate potential stagnation problems and ensure efficient CO2 enrichment.

If you have never enriched your garden with CO2, start with 700 - 900 ppm (double the normal atmospheric levels). If yields improve, increase CO2 enrichment to 1200 - 1500 ppm. If there is no response to the CO2 enrichment, double-check your other five "essential elements" to ensure they are not limiting factors.​
There is also a chart posted below on appropriate Rh to room temp sounds crazy... Wouldn't run these numbers for flower tho.
 

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DaBotniss

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This grow is one Im going to be keeping my eyes on. Very execptional grow. Would like to see you run a all organic grow one day. Looks super to me though. Love the way the plants are comming out. Keeping my eye on this:weed:
 

rarebreed619

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This grow is one Im going to be keeping my eyes on. Very execptional grow. Would like to see you run a all organic grow one day. Looks super to me though. Love the way the plants are comming out. Keeping my eye on this:weed:
Thanks, I'm really liking there growth structure also. As soon as I get co2 running today hopeing they grow faster :-) Might run organics in the future ;-)
 

rarebreed619

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Have a mutant among the girls lol, I have seen this growth before with some gods gift, and some other growers on this forum. Here is the hso bluedream has backward leaf growth. Grows 3 fingers and has another 2 growing inward. Anyone know the technical term?
 

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rarebreed619

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Ok guys I'm up and running finally :-D got the sentinel chhc-4 hooked up and dialed in. Running:
700 ppm co2 after it shuts off I'm at like 1200 - 1500ppm
Rh 70% day/60% night
Rm temp 83f day/69f night

Feed:
An 3 part/b52 300 ppm (500 scale)
3ml/gal sm90
1ml/gal h&g drip clean
ph 5.8
water temp 72f

the girls to be are loving this high heat and co2. Never seen plants pray this hard. From what I have read as long as co2 is regulated air exchange can be at a minimum. Set sentinel to kick on extraction fan at 85f. Room pretty much stays at 83f at lighted hours.

Anyways stay tuned cause things are really going to start rolling ;-)Thanks to everyone that has hung around and for dealing with my ocd. I try to update daily. So until next time stay green :leaf:
 

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rarebreed619

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Well as much as I like the led, for this run I switched back to my Solis tek matrix and raptor dual. Orderd a 6k Solis tek 1k mh. Took tent down, panda filmed the room. And set everything up. I need weight this run, and I do believe in led's but don't want to chance this grow. It's also the beginning of winter so while test running the hps at 600w (not air cooled) my room settled on 80f/83f. With aircooling can run the 1k at around the same temp or lower.

the babies are looking a little light green gonna bump there feed, couldn't really tell under the led.

Not sure if I have to create a new thread as this isn't an led grow anymore. Anyways here's the setup, pretty much the same but no tent or led.
 

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