Just when you think it can't get worse, you get this in the mail..

schuylaar

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MPC (marginal propensity consume) + MPS (marginal propensity save) = 1. With the abject poor, MPC is nearly 1 and MPS is nearly 0. With the greedy evil filthy rich, MPC is nearly 0 and MPS is nearly 1. If MPC is nearly 0, any income "taxed" for "security" in your old age that already well exceeds basic needs with the Social Security taxed annuity fund, is pointless. You confuse SS with contributing to injecting into community MPC, when it's supposed to supplement your personal MPS in the event your MPC approaches 1, you still have a MPS of at least 0.124 for retirement. This is simple high school honors level Economics.
i'm referring to wage base limit..this is what should be uncapped..6.2% straight up period.

*schuylaar hands canna a tissue..check your nose sweetie, you have a little "brown" smudge..
 

schuylaar

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I did say leftist sky... Do the Kock brothers qualify?

The billionaires you admire and aspire to are those members and contributors to orgs. like "Democracy Alliance" which in turn funds Priorities USA and CAP, not to mention ACORN... Yep don't think the dirty little democrat secret goes unnoticed...
i don't admire or aspire to any billionaires especially the koch brothers..
 

ginwilly

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Not "who", "what". The system itself will eventually collapse of its own weight. More and more "entitled" people, which would include all who receive a check from government: workers, sub contractors, retirees, welfare etc. will mean fewer and fewer non entitled people to actually pay the way. Every floating ship will eventually sink if it carries too many passengers. This one is not different.
If you've ever read Cloward and Piven, that's the game plan. These two sociologists were profs at Columbia during Obama's time so I know he's familiar with the philosophy. It definitely appears he's following the plan. The end game is to explode welfare and replace it with a guaranteed annual income.

Fundamental change in other words.
 

Beefbisquit

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ask your leftist heroes to put up or shut up... Those billionaires you admire and aspire to be DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT pay their fair share... Half of congress are millionaires and lets be honest, their positions allow them access to information, not available to you and I, and this can really pay financial dividends...
"Lefties"... lol

Bill Gates (a liberal) has donated more then $35,000,000,000 to charity. Yes, that's billion, with a B....

What conservatives have given that much of their personal wealth, or dedicated that much of their time to helping people?

Bill Gates plans on curing a some of the worlds most deadly diseases by 2030....



Maybe they don't get taxed their fair share, but Liberals donate more of their money and time to helping people in general.
 

ginwilly

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"Lefties"... lol

Bill Gates (a liberal) has donated more then $35,000,000,000 to charity. Yes, that's billion, with a B....

What conservatives have given that much of their personal wealth, or dedicated that much of their time to helping people?

Bill Gates plans on curing a some of the worlds most deadly diseases by 2030....



Maybe they don't get taxed their fair share, but Liberals donate more of their money and time to helping people in general.
Nearly every study done has shown the opposite to be true at an almost 2 to 1 deficit. Shocking to libs, expected by cons. We put our money where our mouth is, while libs try to put OUR money where their mouth is. If you can show me a plan liberals have come up with doesn't involve taking from others, then I'll retract this.
 

schuylaar

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Nearly every study done has shown the opposite to be true at an almost 2 to 1 deficit. Shocking to libs, expected by cons. We put our money where our mouth is, while libs try to put OUR money where their mouth is. If you can show me a plan liberals have come up with doesn't involve taking from others, then I'll retract this.
citation required
 

ginwilly

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citation required
sorry, here's forbes study
http://www.forbes.com/sites/tomwatson/2012/06/01/giving-differently-liberals-and-conservatives-have-radically-different-views-of-charity/

here's NY times (written by a liberal)
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/opinion/21kristof.html?_r=0

another?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/conservatives_more_liberal_giv.html
If many conservatives are liberals who have been mugged by reality, Brooks, a registered independent, is, as a reviewer of his book said, a social scientist who has been mugged by data. They include these findings:
-- Although liberal families' incomes average 6 percent higher than those of conservative families, conservative-headed households give, on average, 30 percent more to charity than the average liberal-headed household ($1,600 per year vs. $1,227).
-- Conservatives also donate more time and give more blood.

I can do more for you if your google is broke.
 

echelon1k1

New Member
"Lefties"... lol

Bill Gates (a liberal) has donated more then $35,000,000,000 to charity. Yes, that's billion, with a B....

What conservatives have given that much of their personal wealth, or dedicated that much of their time to helping people?

Bill Gates plans on curing a some of the worlds most deadly diseases by 2030....



Maybe they don't get taxed their fair share, but Liberals donate more of their money and time to helping people in general.
LOL... You are a funny one... :dunce: Lots of that "foundation" money finding its way into commercial investments, like Monsanto where he owns half a million shares and is set to make a very large profit with GM food... Why does it not surprise me you support economic warfare by plutocrats
 

Canna Sylvan

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i'm referring to wage base limit..this is what should be uncapped..6.2% straight up period.

*schuylaar hands canna a tissue..check your nose sweetie, you have a little "brown" smudge..
You still don't get SS is a "savings" program not a Robin Hood theft? Otherwise, why does anyone NEED to save more than $14,000 a year for 47 years? You really care about the rich living their luxury retirement.
 

Canna Sylvan

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"Lefties"... lol

Bill Gates (a liberal) has donated more then $35,000,000,000 to charity. Yes, that's billion, with a B....

What conservatives have given that much of their personal wealth, or dedicated that much of their time to helping people?

Bill Gates plans on curing a some of the worlds most deadly diseases by 2030....



Maybe they don't get taxed their fair share, but Liberals donate more of their money and time to helping people in general.
No, Bill really likes that Melinda pussy for some fucked up reason. Before the succubus, he was a real stingy bastard. For 35 billion he could've bought 72 awesome virgins.
 

Beefbisquit

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The top Charity contributors in the USA....

#1 Leonard Lauder - Democrat
#2 Phil Knight - Democrat
#3 Michael Bloomberg - Both at different times/Independent now

http://philanthropy.com/stats/topdonors/?keyword=

I'd like to see every Republican donation made in the last 25 years, and compare it to the $35,000,000,000 from Bill Gates.... (and the $37,400,000,000 that Warren Buffet is going to donate lol)
 

ChesusRice

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The top Charity contributors in the USA....

#1 Leonard Lauder - Democrat
#2 Phil Knight - Democrat
#3 Michael Bloomberg - Both at different times/Independent now

http://philanthropy.com/stats/topdonors/?keyword=

I'd like to see every Republican donation made in the last 25 years, and compare it to the $35,000,000,000 from Bill Gates.... (and the $37,400,000,000 that Warren Buffet is going to donate lol)
Mitt Romeny gives a lot to charity

Although you have to define charity as:
He is required to give at least 10% of his gross income to his church.
I think the Mormon church is the only church that actually does an audit for their members in regards to how much they have given. They have even developed software to help them do it.
 

Beefbisquit

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Mitt Romeny gives a lot to charity

Although you have to define charity as:
He is required to give at least 10% of his gross income to his church.
I think the Mormon church is the only church that actually does an audit for their members in regards to how much they have given. They have even developed software to help them do it.
To give perspective; Lauder donated $1,000,000,000....
 

UncleBuck

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I just looked up what states spend the most on welfare and California topped the list along with some other blue states..Oregon was #15 on the list..
of course the most populous state is gonna spend the most on welfare. that's not what i meant.

i am talking about how the red states take far more federal dollars than they contribute. that makes them takers, suckers off the federal teat.

gotta pay those taxes so the red states can get their food stamps.
 

UncleBuck

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If you've ever read Cloward and Piven, that's the game plan. These two sociologists were profs at Columbia during Obama's time so I know he's familiar with the philosophy. It definitely appears he's following the plan. The end game is to explode welfare and replace it with a guaranteed annual income.

Fundamental change in other words.
from the same mind that brought you a consumption tax hitting the rich comes this conspiracy theory drivel.

i am getting dumber and dumber with every post of yours i read.
 

UncleBuck

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conservative-headed households give, on average, 30 percent more to charity than the average liberal-headed household ($1,600 per year vs. $1,227).
so much for that "nearly 2 to 1 deficit" you talked about.

you're really on a fucking roll.
 

Red1966

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The top Charity contributors in the USA.... #1 Leonard Lauder - Democrat #2 Phil Knight - Democrat #3 Michael Bloomberg - Both at different times/Independent now http://philanthropy.com/stats/topdonors/?keyword= I'd like to see every Republican donation made in the last 25 years, and compare it to the $35,000,000,000 from Bill Gates.... (and the $37,400,000,000 that Warren Buffet is going to donate lol)
Bill Gates never gave a dime out of his 74 Billion $ to charity until Donald Trump shamed him publicly on TV. Warren Buffet isn't giving away his money until after his death, when its' of no further use to him. Yeah, once you've ripped off enough people to amass billions, money loses its' meaning. Funny how you're against capitalism, unless the capitalist is a Democrat.
 
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