BHO with Vacuum oil/wax tutorial

BCOGYODA

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GreyLord thanks for that info! I will look into the stainless steel thing. Much safer for sure.

Hey Qwiz check out my post #1542 I posted how everything turned out with it. For me I think I'll be drying my stuff just cause of the extra space in the tubes the frozen stuff takes up. It takes up 4 times the volume of space to yield the same. And I found that I didn't get a lighter colored oil with it because of the amber color of my trichoms when we chop so for that reason it doesn't make much sense for me to go the frozen route.

Thanks TC! This batch was scary at the beginning. Used the oil slick pads and the oil went a little bit off of them when the muffin grew huge. I let the oil heat purge for 3 hrs in the pyrex before going in the chamber but the muffin was still massive. I went a bit over board this time for my size chamber :eek:
 

Guzias1

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GreyLord thanks for that info! I will look into the stainless steel thing. Much safer for sure.

Hey Qwiz check out my post #1542 I posted how everything turned out with it. For me I think I'll be drying my stuff just cause of the extra space in the tubes the frozen stuff takes up. It takes up 4 times the volume of space to yield the same. And I found that I didn't get a lighter colored oil with it because of the amber color of my trichoms when we chop so for that reason it doesn't make much sense for me to go the frozen route.

Thanks TC! This batch was scary at the beginning. Used the oil slick pads and the oil went a little bit off of them when the muffin grew huge. I let the oil heat purge for 3 hrs in the pyrex before going in the chamber but the muffin was still massive. I went a bit over board this time for my size chamber :eek:

gooood jobbbbbbbbbbbbb

drying route is much easier..

let dry plenty, grind down while its nice and crispy, way easier, moisture in the plant makes for hard grinding, purging.. but freshly stored is the key,. whether it be a year old, or month old, its just needs to be stored correctly to have the best future..

. .. big frozen runs are not choice... small frozen runs are choice for fresh buds from a friend or so..
 

BCOGYODA

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Exactly Guz!

I was going to try to run both batches in the same chamber after the muffins got calmed down but decided against it cause I was falling asleep last night so just gonna finish the first batch on it's own.

I'm trying something new this time and put the oil straight into stoneware without any paper oil oil slick pads after the muffin calmed down. My thought is that once the cake is dried out completely I should be able to pop it out of there without it sticking to it. Hope it works!

Some pics of the progress so far:IMG_0706.jpgIMG_0708.jpgIMG_0709.jpgIMG_0712.jpgIMG_0713.jpgIMG_0715.jpgIMG_0721.jpgIMG_0725.jpgIMG_0728.jpg

I used 437 grams of OG bud for this run. The weight of the oil before vac purge is 86.9 I imagine I will lose close to 20 grams in tane and moisture if my yield is close to what the other runs were with the OG of 17-18%..
 

qwizoking

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Fresh frozen doesn't protect color but terpene retention.....water evaps at a higher temp than some terps...waters gone so are the terps (that doesn't mean its not flavorful though )
 

BCOGYODA

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The loaf is waxing up :grin:IMG_0733.jpgCloser up:IMG_0737.jpgTubes are loaded for next batch:weed: IMG_0740.jpg


What is the best way to store honeycomb? Frozen in jars?
 

Guzias1

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dayumm. so your small fattys, hold roughly the same as my skinnys... i bet thats a work out though :]

got late, but still wanted to try out the new ish. sooo, today, i packed about 200 grams of ground buds per tube, and came up about a half oz, - oz short per tube, so i threw a similar re run to fill it in.. soooo roughly 215 this time per tube 430 total. :] almostttttttt a lb!! i could probably push it.. but i dunno, hopefully when it comes time to unpack them tehy aint toooo tough.

my tube is 5 bottles long :]


custom fab


frozennnn tubes (did them one at a time, {first time trying this double tube stand setup!} worked like a champpp)



dissolved and stirred for a few minutes in warm everclear, andd into the freezer she wenttt
looking gooood


here is pic of room temp bho yeeeeeeee


double timmeee, yesssss. and i made a mount for my tubes right by the outsidesss :]

3 cans per tube. 6 total

took 3.5 minutes for first two cans. they fill her up prettty good.

let the last can just sprayyyyyyy through,
SFV OG. hopefully it comes out good, :blsmoke:

leaving the tubes up to dry, gonna reblast in morning, also winterize that, and compare!!!!!
 

Guzias1

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wht yall have to say about my plastic caps :]
buddy been using them for years, cheap!!

i feel safer than ever now. i used to unpack my tubes, re pack, till i was finished blasting, butane every whereeeeeee.. now i will gladly let them dry over night, and reblast next day!

boyy, been a good long night, hope urvyyy one has a gooood weekend,

peas
 

GreyLord

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You guys do not do things by half. That is a brilliant rig Guz. But why only 3 cans per tube? I run three cans through 40gs of dry in a 10" tube. Have you run an extra can into an empty dish to see what you get?
 

GreyLord

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I'm off to my giant hardware store to finally see what's available to winterise my latest batch of oil. I've heard all sorts of alternatives to 100% alcohol like acetone, iso etc. Wouldn't have a clue myself.

Could someone give me the generic names of acceptable solvents I should look for that are suitable for winterising? I wanna make hash like you guys:) Thanks.
 

Fadedawg

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I'm off to my giant hardware store to finally see what's available to winterise my latest batch of oil. I've heard all sorts of alternatives to 100% alcohol like acetone, iso etc. Wouldn't have a clue myself.

Could someone give me the generic names of acceptable solvents I should look for that are suitable for winterising? I wanna make hash like you guys:) Thanks.
Here is a chart of dielectric constants: http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/liquid-dielectric-constants-d_1263.html

Anything above 15 is considered polar, so Isopropyl, Acetone, Ethanol, and Methanol will all work, and in that order, with the Methanol doing the best job and the Iso doing the least. We use food grade 190 proof Ethanol for that purpose.
 

qwizoking

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You could use any solvent with similar properties.. acetone will work better than iso, but unless you can get it pure..I wouldn't trust hardware store solvents, at the very least get an msds...
99%iso works alright, cheap and easy to get for me..ethanol is still the best for winterizing. a pain to acquire though

I love iso cause its a dollar a pint here
 

BCOGYODA

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I don't think I'll do the stoneware without parchment paper again. The wax did stick a bit to it so the cookie got pretty broken up getting it out of there. I think I should have left it drying out a little longer too. Probably another hour would have been good.
Another 17% yield. Started with 437 grams of bud and ended up with around 75 grams of wax. 72 grams on the scale and a few grams left in the pyrex and stoneware..
Gonna try to upload the pics a different way. Hope it works!





 

BluJayz

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Curious about this, does anyone else have a problem with the vacuum pulling wax through the paper?

On several occasions my wax paper will be stuck to the container after a vac and some of the concentrate had bleed through?

This is the main issue I have with wax paper; and why I keep using those damn pads.
 

Guzias1

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Parchment paper is what you want. Don't get the fancy parchment though. It sucks. I get a non bleached Brown parchment roll that does really well. Parody is right. Thin. Replace when it gets too worn out, or else you run into problems
 

BCOGYODA

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Curious about this, does anyone else have a problem with the vacuum pulling wax through the paper?

On several occasions my wax paper will be stuck to the container after a vac and some of the concentrate had bleed through?

This is the main issue I have with wax paper; and why I keep using those damn pads.
Hey BlueJayz, do you mean parchment paper? You shouldn't be using wax paper. Two very different things. The wax on wax paper could melt and get into your oil or stick to your chamber.
Parchment paper is coated with silicone and wax paper is coated with soybean or paraffin. Wax paper shouldn't be used in heated ovens or chambers in our case.

If you're oil sticks to the parchment just let it cool a little before pulling it off.
 

BCOGYODA

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Well I just FUCKED UP a batch!

I had a beauty batch nicely waxed up and firm at 125F. I was getting tired so I thought I'll just leave it on for a few more hours and set my alarm and have a nap for a bit. Thinking that it would wax up any un-waxed oil on the bottom of my dish.
Well I got up 4 hrs later to check it out and and it was a kind of waxy goo. Not oil and not crumbly wax but a kind of waxy pudding consistency. FUCK! :cuss: The temp crept up to 138F. I guess with this oil it was enough of a temp increase to make it change it's state.

I tried letting it cool then vac'n again etc. and it just wants to stay in this form.

Is there anything I can do to fix this or is just like this for good now?

Guz I remember you said you have had this happen before. And you referred to it as perma goo I think. Did you find a way to fix it?
 
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