California Gas Prices Through The Roof!

rollinbud

Active Member
And Democrat Senator Diane Einstein (pun intended) calls for federal investigation!

The average price in the state hit $4.668, according to AAA. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., called on the Federal Trade Commission to investigate, saying residents need to be protected from "malicious trading schemes."

Feinstein in her letter Sunday asked the FTC to determine if the price spike was caused by illegal manipulation of the market and to start monitoring the market for fraud, manipulation, or other malicious trading practices

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82135.html#ixzz28j5bweKH


We must have some lunatic politicians here in the Golden State, I take that back, I know we do!

Has Diane Einstein figured out that Californians pay a much higher tax on fuel, in fact the second highest in the country, only New York is higher (another liberal state!). Does she not understand that fuels in California cost more to refine because we have the largest population of tree huggers and the strictest environmental standards in the nation????

From the data I've found, oil companies make on average, about 7 cents per gallon of gas sold at the pump.
The federal government confiscates over 18 cents and the state of California, over 35 cents per gallon!
That's a combined total of over 53 cents per gallon in taxes for ever gallon of gas sold at the pumps, almost eight times what the oil companies make on the same gallon of gas.



Perhaps Diane Einstein should investigate the state and federal government for lunacy!



http://benmavy.wordpress.com/2009/09/21/why-does-california-gas-cost-more/
One of the most common questions we get in our office is: Why do Californians pay more for gasoline than anywhere else in the country.
Recently, the Orange County Business Council conducted a research study into this question and the findings were quite striking:

  • Californians pay between five and fifteen cents per gallon extra due to increased fuel refining costs required by the special gasoline blends required by the California Air Resources Board.
  • Because few refineries are equipped to make this special blend, availability is often limited and price is affected when these refineries break down or close for maintenance.
  • State gas taxes, at 35.3 cents per gallon, are 43% higher than the national average. Only New York charges more.
  • California is a “fuel island” with no pipelines linking us to domestic oil supplies. Thus, all crude oil must come here by tanker. We also have a limited capacity for storage, having lost six million barrels of storage capacity in the last 15 years.
  • California has not opened a new gasoline refinery since 1969, and 20 refineries have closed since 1980. Thus our refineries are forced to become more efficient, but they have only increased their capacity by one half of one percent (0.5%) between 1995 and 2006. During this same period, fuel sales increased by 18%.


Good old California...... Enjoy!
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
And Democrat Senator Diane Einstein (pun intended) calls for federal investigation!

The average price in the state hit $4.668, according to AAA. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., called on the Federal Trade Commission to investigate, saying residents need to be protected from "malicious trading schemes."

Feinstein in her letter Sunday asked the FTC to determine if the price spike was caused by illegal manipulation of the market and to start monitoring the market for fraud, manipulation, or other malicious trading practices

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82135.html#ixzz28j5bweKH


We must have some lunatic politicians here in the Golden State, I take that back, I know we do!

Has Diane Einstein figured out that Californians pay a much higher tax on fuel, in fact the second highest in the country, only New York is higher (another liberal state!). Does she not understand that fuels in California cost more to refine because we have the largest population of tree huggers and the strictest environmental standards in the nation????

From the data I've found, oil companies make on average, about 7 cents per gallon of gas sold at the pump.
The federal government confiscates over 18 cents and the state of California, over 35 cents per gallon!
That's a combined total of over 53 cents per gallon in taxes for ever gallon of gas sold at the pumps, almost eight times what the oil companies make on the same gallon of gas.



Perhaps Diane Einstein should investigate the state and federal government for lunacy!



http://benmavy.wordpress.com/2009/09/21/why-does-california-gas-cost-more/
One of the most common questions we get in our office is: Why do Californians pay more for gasoline than anywhere else in the country.
Recently, the Orange County Business Council conducted a research study into this question and the findings were quite striking:

  • Californians pay between five and fifteen cents per gallon extra due to increased fuel refining costs required by the special gasoline blends required by the California Air Resources Board.
  • Because few refineries are equipped to make this special blend, availability is often limited and price is affected when these refineries break down or close for maintenance.
  • State gas taxes, at 35.3 cents per gallon, are 43% higher than the national average. Only New York charges more.
  • California is a “fuel island” with no pipelines linking us to domestic oil supplies. Thus, all crude oil must come here by tanker. We also have a limited capacity for storage, having lost six million barrels of storage capacity in the last 15 years.
  • California has not opened a new gasoline refinery since 1969, and 20 refineries have closed since 1980. Thus our refineries are forced to become more efficient, but they have only increased their capacity by one half of one percent (0.5%) between 1995 and 2006. During this same period, fuel sales increased by 18%.
price of gas in san jose is as low as $3.60 nowadays.

thanks, obama!
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
I'd imagine you don't think this administration, if left unchecked wouldn't make electricity bills spike either?
Keep drinking that sheeple koolaide!



[video=youtube;HlTxGHn4sH4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlTxGHn4sH4[/video]
[h=3]Oahu sees electricity rates drop[/h]
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/23504933/oahu-sees-electricity-rates-drop-for-september

[h=1]Maine electric rates to fall next March[/h]



http://bangordailynews.com/2012/11/08/news/maine-electric-rates-to-fall-next-march/

[h=1]Puget Sound Energy electric rates drop[/h]


http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2008/10/puget_sound_energy_electric_ra.html
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
you can thank conservatives and clear headed democrats for stopping the far left crazies from getting Cap and Trade legislation get through.
we can also thank conservatives, republicans, and clear headed democrats for coming up with a market based policy like cap and trade in the first place.

cap and trade was a republican idea.


[video=youtube;HlTxGHn4sH4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlTxGHn4sH4[/video]
you can keep posting that video, but that won't change any of the facts.

under obama, domestic production is at all time highs.

under obama, electricity rates are dropping from coast to coast.

and back to the OP, gas prices in california are low. $3.60 is what i see driving around one of the most expensive places to live in the entire united states.

you blame democrats when gas prices are high, but when gas prices drop, there is no "thank you" thread to reciprocate.

one might think that you are but a mindless, partisan hack, and the very reason why my sardonic thanking of obama for lower gas prices works.
 

beenthere

New Member
we can also thank conservatives, republicans, and clear headed democrats for coming up with a market based policy like cap and trade in the first place.

cap and trade was a republican idea.
you can keep posting that video, but that won't change any of the facts.

under obama, domestic production is at all time highs.

under obama, electricity rates are dropping from coast to coast.

and back to the OP, gas prices in california are low. $3.60 is what i see driving around one of the most expensive places to live in the entire united states.

you blame democrats when gas prices are high, but when gas prices drop, there is no "thank you" thread to reciprocate.

one might think that you are but a mindless, partisan hack, and the very reason why my sardonic thanking of obama for lower gas prices works.
Obama himself said "under my policy, electricity costs would necessarily skyrocket"

Cap and trade fell flat on it's face, so electricity price haven't skyrocketed. Like you, he FAILED

Lower gas prices because of barack obama, the average price for a gallon of gas when he took office was $1.89 and you want to thank him for the price doubling?
And I would like to thank you for capturing those two little blue kitty boxes in that photo of yours.
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
Obama himself said "under my policy, electricity costs would necessarily skyrocket"

Cap and trade fell flat on it's face, so electricity price haven't skyrocketed. Like you, he FAILED

Lower gas prices because of barack obama, the average price for a gallon of gas when he took office was $1.89 and you want to thank him for the price doubling?
And I would like to thank you for capturing those two little blue kitty boxes in that photo of yours.
in truth the average price around my way in 2008 was around $3.50 /gal for regular, and after topping out and just under $5/gal it is back around $3.50 again.

Thanks Obama, thanks for ummm... ohh yeah, the word i was looking for was: NOTHING.
 

heckler73

Well-Known Member
I paid $1.299/L a couple days ago.
~CDN$4.91/gal * 0.95546 US$/CDN$ =US$4.69/gal... for 89 octane (I think it has 10% Whisky in there, too).

Is that considered high?
 

kinddiesel

Well-Known Member
suck it up cali guy. gas in mi was 5 dollars a gallon. when the economy was shit. all the big 3 car company were on verge of going broke . finally got it down to 312 from a 4 year average of 350 to 370 , here in Michigan . there are no good jobs. every body fleeing the state to get a real paying job. got a collage degree ? well your working at mc donalds here
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
I paid $1.299/L a couple days ago.
~CDN$4.91/gal * 0.95546 US$/CDN$ =US$4.69/gal... for 89 octane (I think it has 10% Whisky in there, too).

Is that considered high?
yes, thats VERY high for the current market, if you were in california. thats the price you pay in the mountains or deep desert where you got one gas station per 1000 miles. in urban areas competition and secondary markets keeps the price lower.
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
suck it up cali guy. gas in mi was 5 dollars a gallon. when the economy was shit. all the big 3 car company were on verge of going broke . finally got it down to 312 from a 4 year average of 350 to 370 , here in Michigan . there are no good jobs. every body fleeing the state to get a real paying job. got a collage degree ? well your working at mc donalds here
face it, michigan sucks. move a few miles east or west and youre in a state thats not nearly so damaged by leftist policies, even Ohio is a better choice.
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
http://articles.courant.com/2012-12-28/business/hc-2013-electricity-rates-drop-20121228_1_alternative-energy-suppliers-electricity-cl-p-and-ui

Electric Rates Drop Again, Though Delivery Costs Temper Total Savings


New Year An Opportunity For Consumers To Look At Electricity Suppliers
(From Table 2.4.) Average Retail Price
(Cents per Kilowatthour)
YearResidentialCommer-cialIndustrialTranspor-tationOtherTotal
20018.587.925.05N/A7.207.29
20028.447.894.88N/A6.757.20
20038.728.035.117.54N/A7.44
20048.958.175.257.18N/A7.61
20059.458.675.738.57N/A8.14
200610.409.466.169.54N/A8.90
200710.659.656.399.70N/A9.13
200811.2610.366.8310.74N/A9.74
200911.5110.176.8110.65N/A9.82
201011.5410.196.7710.57N/A9.83
201111.7210.236.8210.46N/A9.90
Verifiable factual info from: http://www.eia.gov/electricity/data.cfm#summary

Prices have gone up to an average of $12.51 for residential customers in the USA according to the EIA also http://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/epm_table_grapher.cfm?t=epmt_5_6_a

Which means that on average prices for electricity have increased from $11.51 to $12.51 or about 9.2% since Obama came into Office.

No Thanks, Obama.
 

heckler73

Well-Known Member
yes, thats VERY high for the current market, if you were in california. thats the price you pay in the mountains or deep desert where you got one gas station per 1000 miles. in urban areas competition and secondary markets keeps the price lower.
Well, here it is backwards... the closer you get to the core, the higher the price...
When I go visit my friends in the boonies (i.e. ~100km outside of the Downtown core), I get a magical discount of ~15 cents per liter. This is due to the types of taxes placed into the price, like subsidies for public transit.
I noticed a similar system in Italy, too, where people who live near the edge of Slovenia get a card which automatically provides them a sizable discount on benzina to keep them from ducking over the border to top up their tanks. But if our prices are considered high, then theirs are obscene.
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
Well, here it is backwards... the closer you get to the core, the higher the price...
When I go visit my friends in the boonies (i.e. ~100km outside of the Downtown core), I get a magical discount of ~15 cents per liter. This is due to the types of taxes placed into the price, like subsidies for public transit.
I noticed a similar system in Italy, too, where people who live near the edge of Slovenia get a card which automatically provides them a sizable discount on benzina to keep them from ducking over the border to top up their tanks. But if our prices are considered high, then theirs are obscene.
but europe and to a large degree the east coast urban core have viable public transit systems, while out here in the west public transit is absurdly inefficient, even in urban centers like SF LA or Sacramento.

europe and the east coast can have high gas prices and call it a Luxury Tax, but in the west even the brokest mofo in town has to have wheels.

even the homeless have to have bicycles to get from the shelter or flop to the soup kitchen or panhandling spot.
 

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
but europe and to a large degree the east coast urban core have viable public transit systems, while out here in the west public transit is absurdly inefficient, even in urban centers like SF LA or Sacramento.

europe and the east coast can have high gas prices and call it a Luxury Tax, but in the west even the brokest mofo in town has to have wheels.

even the homeless have to have bicycles to get from the shelter or flop to the soup kitchen or panhandling spot.
More like half of Europe, to be honest, we have shitty public transport.

Privatisation would be a huge step forward.
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
More like half of Europe, to be honest, we have shitty public transport.

Privatisation would be a huge step forward.
Something I always wanted to ask, hows that whole European Union thing working out for you all anyway?
Also, do you think Ireland's generous welfare package brings in unsavory neer do wells into the country merely for the free shit they can get?
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Obama himself said "under my policy, electricity costs would necessarily skyrocket"
why do you keep repeating that?*

are you trying to illustrate what an idiot you are?

under obama, domestic energy production is at an all time high. electric rates are dropping in markets across the nation.

you were wrong.

your prediction failed.

the average price for a gallon of gas when he took office was $1.89 and you want to thank him for the price doubling?
you were blaming him when prices were on the rise, but too much of an inflamed vagina to give him credit if prices go the other way, eh?

gee, no one will notice that glaring double standard at all, will they?

obama could probably get gas back down to 1.89 if he were to crash the economy, like the guy you voted twice for before him. but he didn't do that, making your prediction of impending economic failure another one of you failed predictions.

no skyrocketing electric, no economic collapse, no skewed polls, no sky falling...looks like you have been wrong in every single prediction you have made.

no surprise there. the thing that you are best at is failing.
 
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