hatred for being an atheist

Beefbisquit

Beefbisquit

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eye exaggerate said:
Sorry, I don't see what you mean. Was there something before the big bang?
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Probably 'something'. No way to tell for sure.

I think it's more likely the universe is infinite, and the big crunch/bang is the more likely answer. This actually is a 'belief' of mine, not a fact or scientifically based reasoning.
 
Beefbisquit

Beefbisquit

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eye exaggerate said:
Ah, cool. I was under the impression that the idea was that it was nothingness prior to its somethingness - lol
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Maybe it was. lol

Based upon the idea that energy and matter can't be created or destroyed. I think it's more likely that the birth of the universe as we know it was the end of the last universe.... or at least was caused by the death of the last universe..... all hearsay!
 
sso

sso

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How do you turn the religious atheist?

Get them to Actually read their text of faith. (Whether its christianity or islam or buddhism.)
 
tyler.durden

tyler.durden

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Balzac89 said:
Aren't you just indoctrinating him with your beliefs? How is that any different from organized religion?

I am not religious in any sense.
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No, I am educating him. When indoctrinating someone, they are expected not to question the ideas or concepts being conveyed. I have always told my son not to take anyone's word for anything, even mine as I could be mistaken about anything that I am conveying. Instead, he was encouraged to question everything and to look things up for himself. As he grew older, he has looked into many different religions, and usually laughed his ass off. He's also caught me in some inaccuracies, and we both learn together as I change my beliefs accordingly...
 
Hepheastus420

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tyler.durden said:
No, I am educating him. When indoctrinating someone, they are expected not to question the ideas or concepts being conveyed. I have always told my son not to take anyone's word for anything, even mine as I could be mistaken about anything that I am conveying. Instead, he was encouraged to question everything and to look things up for himself. As he grew older, he has looked into many different religions, and usually laughed his ass off. He's also caught me in some inaccuracies, and we both learn together as I change my beliefs accordingly...
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This is what separates your parental skills from a strict, religious, families parental skills.. In all honesty, it's a little depressing to not believe in a fairy tale happy ending, but reality is what it is.. there's no need to beat around the bush and raise false hopes.
 
tyler.durden

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Hepheastus420 said:
This is what separates your parental skills from a strict, religious, families parental skills.. In all honesty, it's a little depressing to not believe in a fairy tale happy ending, but reality is what it is.. there's no need to beat around the bush and raise false hopes.
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Right, Hep. I think what is depressing is promising a child something that doesn't exist i.e. santa, jesus, disney, and then having that thing ripped away from them as they get older. If you never make the false promise in the first place, there's nothing to feel depressed about...
 
Balzac89

Balzac89

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tyler.durden said:
No, I am educating him. When indoctrinating someone, they are expected not to question the ideas or concepts being conveyed. I have always told my son not to take anyone's word for anything, even mine as I could be mistaken about anything that I am conveying. Instead, he was encouraged to question everything and to look things up for himself. As he grew older, he has looked into many different religions, and usually laughed his ass off. He's also caught me in some inaccuracies, and we both learn together as I change my beliefs accordingly...
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As Humans we have been wrong far more than we have ever been right.
 
Padawanbater2

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Hepheastus420 said:
This is what separates your parental skills from a strict, religious, families parental skills.. In all honesty, it's a little depressing to not believe in a fairy tale happy ending, but reality is what it is.. there's no need to beat around the bush and raise false hopes.
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That's the ironic catch 22 about intelligence; you work hard, study and research things to know about the world to be a happy more successful person, and the more you find out about it, the farther away from happy a person tends to sway. Ignorance is bliss, as they say. (stage 1)

But I've thought about that a lot, and I've come to the conclusion that what those people are experiencing isn't real happiness, it's a facade, an illusion. To them, they don't see it and the distinction doesn't matter, but to us [atheists], it's obvious and apparent. (stage 2)

I think to reach what I would truly consider happiness (stage 3) would be to fully accept life as it is and be as intellectually honest with yourself about it as you can be, then find the things that make the people in stage 1 happy, alter the recipe to fit your own life, morals and values, and pursue that with the most passion and enthusiasm possible. Improvements in things like finances, physical appearance, etc. tend to be positive side effects of living that sort of life from what I've seen, so long as you're committed and consistent.


If you're at an awesome party, the last thing you're worried about is it ending, right?

Make your party awesome.
 
Nevaeh420

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joe macclennan said:
fin is that you?
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No, Im not Finsaggy if thats who you mean. Im Christ. My full Name is George Manuel Oliveira. Check out My signature if you want to learn about Me.

I honestly dont know much about Finshaggy because he doesnt post much in this subforum but I did watch one of his videos where he said God is a monkey. I thought that was funny.

Im a Prophet with the most high prophecies. I have come to give even the Atheists something greater to believe in, like a loving paradise from a higher power. But no one cares or believes but Im still going to try even if its futility.

PEACE
 
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schuylaar

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Nevaeh420 said:
No, Im not Finsaggy if thats who you mean. Im Christ. My full Name is George Manuel Oliveira. Check out My signature if you want to learn about Me.

I honestly dont know much about Finshaggy because he doesnt post much in this subforum but I did watch one of his videos where he said God is a monkey. I thought that was funny.

Im a Prophet with the most high prophecies. I have come to give even the Atheists something greater to believe in, like a loving paradise from a higher power. But no one cares or believes but Im still going to try even if its futility.

PEACE
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george..atheist don't believe in any higher power..
 
Nevaeh420

Nevaeh420

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schuylaar said:
george..atheist don't believe in any higher power..
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Sure they do, Atheists tend to believe science. I may be mistaken but isnt science their "higher power"? Not that they bow down to science or anything, but they tend to revere and respect it with great esteem because that where they get some of their answers from.

And to be candid, I think Atheists deep down inside know that there is SOME power greater then themselves, for example someone smarter then their self. I know they dont believe in any gods but they should know that there are smarter people then their self and therfore a "power" greater then their self.

But I have never been an atheist so I cant speak for them and I wouldnt know, but I can speculate.

PEACE
 
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schuylaar

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Nevaeh420 said:
Sure they do, Atheists tend to believe science. I may be mistaken but isnt science their "higher power"? Not that they bow down to science or anything, but they tend to revere and respect it with great esteem because that where they get some of their answers from.

And to be candid, I think Atheists deep down inside know that there is SOME power greater then themselves, for example someone smarter then their self. I know they dont believe in any gods but they should know that there are smarter people then their self and therfore a "power" greater then their self.

But I have never been an atheist so I cant speak for them and I wouldnt know, but I can speculate.

PEACE
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atheists are open to anything but we have to see it to believe it..a statement must be true or it doesn't make sense to us..we like facts:smile:
 
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