RedCarpetMatches
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I've actually used chinchilla and tortoise poo lol. And yes I did pet them.
Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread
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RedCarpetMatches
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Well I just want to kill the effers and use my hard earned mix asap. I still see what looks like eggs but I don't know if they're dead. No mites crawling around at least.
Rrog
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Sounds like a lot of great advice here! I'd do as many others suggested: Re-ammend with your own stuff. Your own stuff is always better. You don't have to wonder what's in it, if there are chemicals from a dump, if it's infested, or if it's been sterilized. YOUR stuff is super-charges. Best available. Just as these fine folks have said.
I'd for sure fight pests with pests also. Hypo mites, and I'd add predatory nematodes and BTI all at the same time.
Keep the moisture reasonable. Keep the O2 flow good. Turn the soil if too moist. It'll need to be warm for the bennies to do their thing.
Remember that the bad pests are typically faster than the good guys. So they whip in and establish a population fast if they can. The good news is that while slower, the good guys are generally stronger. So the point is to get the good guys established initially, and they'll hold the fort thereafter.
So I start any soil assuming it's fulla bad stuff. Here's my arsenal for pests:
#1 Vermicompost. Fresh stuff will help protect both the soil and leaves (yep, the leaves).
#2 Neem Meal- Also good nutritionally when it decomposes, this is a great pest suppressant, especially in its whole form. http://www.neemresource.com
#3 BTI dunks Bacillus thuringiensis israelensis bacteria. Mosquito dunks. Any hardware store has mosquito dunks. These feed on larvae. http://www.thatpetplace.com/mosquito-bits-larvicide-36oz?gdftrk=gdfV2226_a_7c268_a_7c6967_a_7c196070&ne_ppc_id=1463&ne_key_id=26452429&gclid=CLTRrJ_2gLkCFYxcMgodrQsA8A
#4 Nematodes- These will travel around in search of larvae to infect and explode. http://www.naturescontrol.com/thrip.html#pn
#5 Crab Shell- The shell contains chitin. This attracts bacteria that eat chitin, and these bacteria multiply like crazy. Larvae have jawbones made of chitin. Bacteria then eat the jawbones. Shell releases a lot of great minerals and Calcium also. www.OrganicGrowers.com
I'd for sure fight pests with pests also. Hypo mites, and I'd add predatory nematodes and BTI all at the same time.
Keep the moisture reasonable. Keep the O2 flow good. Turn the soil if too moist. It'll need to be warm for the bennies to do their thing.
Remember that the bad pests are typically faster than the good guys. So they whip in and establish a population fast if they can. The good news is that while slower, the good guys are generally stronger. So the point is to get the good guys established initially, and they'll hold the fort thereafter.
So I start any soil assuming it's fulla bad stuff. Here's my arsenal for pests:
#1 Vermicompost. Fresh stuff will help protect both the soil and leaves (yep, the leaves).
#2 Neem Meal- Also good nutritionally when it decomposes, this is a great pest suppressant, especially in its whole form. http://www.neemresource.com
#3 BTI dunks Bacillus thuringiensis israelensis bacteria. Mosquito dunks. Any hardware store has mosquito dunks. These feed on larvae. http://www.thatpetplace.com/mosquito-bits-larvicide-36oz?gdftrk=gdfV2226_a_7c268_a_7c6967_a_7c196070&ne_ppc_id=1463&ne_key_id=26452429&gclid=CLTRrJ_2gLkCFYxcMgodrQsA8A
#4 Nematodes- These will travel around in search of larvae to infect and explode. http://www.naturescontrol.com/thrip.html#pn
#5 Crab Shell- The shell contains chitin. This attracts bacteria that eat chitin, and these bacteria multiply like crazy. Larvae have jawbones made of chitin. Bacteria then eat the jawbones. Shell releases a lot of great minerals and Calcium also. www.OrganicGrowers.com
RedCarpetMatches
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You're right on about all the good advice. Love this community. I thought the simplest and quickest way would be to add dirt from the woods. Doesn't that provide a good enough BIM and predator army? Should I haul it all back inside where its warm. I have neem, crab shell, and bagged EWC in the mix already. Like I mentioned, I don't see anymore mites, but I do see what looks like sand/eggs.
RedCarpetMatches
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Ugh just another thing to buy 
Gotta spend $ to make $ they say. I'm thinking about starting a crab farm (not Hyroots kind of crabs), already got the worms (named all 2000), doing a bonsai Neem tree, and I'll look into Nematodes farming. Oh forgot to mention growing clovers (my idea), aloe, lavender, basil, and dandelions. Anything I miss lol?
Gotta spend $ to make $ they say. I'm thinking about starting a crab farm (not Hyroots kind of crabs), already got the worms (named all 2000), doing a bonsai Neem tree, and I'll look into Nematodes farming. Oh forgot to mention growing clovers (my idea), aloe, lavender, basil, and dandelions. Anything I miss lol?
RedCarpetMatches
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Deal bud! My worms are going nuts and not one tried to get out of my many airholes. They already demolished 2 diced apples, 1 diced banana peel, 12 egg shells, and I can't even see or smell the coffee grounds. Is this feeding frenzy normal? Should I feed every day?
RedCarpetMatches
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C'mon now man. I already did! I watched all the Korean and Hawaiian vids on you tube...not to mention reading your posts. What dried plants would you add? There's still plenty of leaves in there.
Rrog
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Hahahahaha!!!! Shame on me!! Hahahaha! That's funny!
Anything you would normally consider adding as am amendment can be added to the bins. Kelp, crab, various meals, Neem. Then a bunch of accumulators like Comfrey (you should grow some), dandelion, nettles, etc. Then higher N stuff like Alfalfa (although some previous items are also higher N) you have to be careful with or you'll start a thermo compost and start cookin stuff.
Variety is the opportunity here. Old flowers, fruits, all add diversity. This is why your stuff will be the best stuff. Perfectly acclimated to your area because of the BIMs that are unavoidably present. Local ninjas
Anything you would normally consider adding as am amendment can be added to the bins. Kelp, crab, various meals, Neem. Then a bunch of accumulators like Comfrey (you should grow some), dandelion, nettles, etc. Then higher N stuff like Alfalfa (although some previous items are also higher N) you have to be careful with or you'll start a thermo compost and start cookin stuff.
Variety is the opportunity here. Old flowers, fruits, all add diversity. This is why your stuff will be the best stuff. Perfectly acclimated to your area because of the BIMs that are unavoidably present. Local ninjas
RedCarpetMatches
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Local ninjas....gladiators....LMAO. How bout Battletodes!!! I just visited your predator link and there's so many options. Going to do some EVEN MORE research.
RedCarpetMatches
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Hoping I'll get some Hypos in my worm bin. Then I'll bust out the tweezers. These damn things are expensive. Geeeez what a scam.
st0wandgrow
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Good advice right there! I made this mistake once. Now I just add my spent alfalfa from my nutrient teas which seems to go much better since alot of the N is leached out of the alfalfa through the brewing process.
RedCarpetMatches
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I put 1 tbsp of fine alfalfa from my mortar and pestle (love that thing). What do you guys think is to much?
Rrog
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That could be hot as shit. You have any charcoal around? Bust that up to around marble / BB size and add to water and Alfalfa. N will be dropped like crazy as it adsorbs to the char. Add the char and Alfalfa to the soil after a few days. Good to lightly bubble.
Later the char will give the N back up. So cool
Later the char will give the N back up. So cool
hyroot
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Thoughts on pots.... This idea comes from Spicy and what Sub says in his videos.... We all know transplanting during flower is bad we don't want to promote root growth diverting energy away from bud sites.. Using fabric pots or air pots during flower air prune the roots causing them to branch out and promote new root growth... So would it be better to Use plastic pots during flower and fabric during veg. It makes sense... Ironically I've been doing the opposite. cheap plastic plastic pots during veg and fabric pots during flower...
Spicy also said his fabric pots , soil would dry fast around the edges. I don't have that issue , different environments and what not....
Sub uses plastic pots too ..... I've been braining out on it ever since me n spicy posted about it back and forth the other day...
Spicy also said his fabric pots , soil would dry fast around the edges. I don't have that issue , different environments and what not....
Sub uses plastic pots too ..... I've been braining out on it ever since me n spicy posted about it back and forth the other day...
GreenSanta
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one of the nicest plant in my garden right now is a hybrid pot... haha. The fabric pot was falling apart so i placed it in a plastic nursery pot, so it's a fabric pot in a plastic pot. I think it offers the best of both world and i will be experimenting with this for the next little while. Everybody says fabric pot rocks but so far i see my best plants are more often in plastic container... or often enough to be 50-50 ... container dont seem to matter!! hehe anyway i like when i dont have to water all that often.