Dyna-Gro vs Advanced Nutrients Connoisseur (AK47 Grow)

weedemart

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I spoke with the owner of DnG and he echoed the same thing. Since you can make your mix as potent or as weak as you want depending on the type of plant you're propagating, he said to keep in mind that your results across a range of concentration levels would resemble a bell-shaped curve. If a particular mix is working, a more potent mixture isn't always the way to go.
This is the result of relation between auxin and cytokinine.When auxin and cytokinine are in imbalanced ratio the plant growth will suffer.pgr have their antagonist like each macro/micro does.
 

homebrewer

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This is the result of relation between auxin and cytokinine.When auxin and cytokinine are in imbalanced ratio the plant growth will suffer.pgr have their antagonist like each macro/micro does.
Maybe that's the science behind it, he was just saying some plants are IBA sensitive and oftentimes 'less' is better than 'more'....to an extent. There is always that bell-shaped curve when it comes to a particular plant's ideal mix.
 

inhaleindica

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yes I know it's funny. you're paying 150$/L for a diluted version of DipNgro at 70$/L :mrgreen:
Sure, keep talking... I only stated my opinion and you go off with insults. That just makes you smarter??? Hmmm. Anyways I am not into babies. GL now back to HB's thread.
 

homebrewer

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so I checked out some dip n gro yesterday...holy smokes that stuffs expensive
It's $10 for two fluid ounces. You make your own mixtures with water and their solution so it's as expensive as you want to make it. I use 1ml of their solution during cloning and dilute it to the strength that I want.
 

homebrewer

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Dip-n-Grow is a commercial liquid rooting concentrate. You mix up some DnG concentrate with some water to the strength that you want, dip cuts for 5 seconds, then plant. They give you a cup to mix up your cloning solution in which sort of requires you to use 5mls of their solution, then an amount of water to dilute to the concentration that you like. The cup mixes up more 'solution' than needed for hobby use which is why I mix up my solution in a 10ml test tube.

Lets say I mix up a 10x solution (1 part DnG concentrate and 9 parts water), I bet I could dip 500 cuts into the 10mls of solution and I only used one ml of their rooting concentrate.

this stuff must have already been diluted cuz it was 50$ for a pint
At $10 for two ounces, a pint would cost $80 so $50 is a deal.
 

joe macclennan

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Dip-n-Grow is a commercial liquid rooting concentrate. You mix up some DnG concentrate with some water to the strength that you want, dip cuts for 5 seconds, then plant. They give you a cup to mix up your cloning solution in which sort of requires you to use 5mls of their solution, then an amount of water to dilute to the concentration that you like. The cup mixes up more 'solution' than needed for hobby use which is why I mix up my solution in a 10ml test tube.

Lets say I mix up a 10x solution (1 part DnG concentrate and 9 parts water), I bet I could dip 500 cuts into the 10mls of solution and I only used one ml of their rooting concentrate.



At $10 for two ounces, a pint would cost $80 so $50 is a deal.
ahh, gotcha. Thank you so very much homebrewer.

Do you know if it has a shelflife...I mean does it go bad? Cuz they only had pints.
 

jaril

New Member
Hey HB, im new to the site and just a beginner at growing. I came across one of your journals and pretty much read all of them now. Your grows are amazing! I want to get some advice and a little direction from you. I plan on using ak47 from ss, with DG in a soilless medium like Promix HP or Sunshine Mix 4. T5 for seedling, MH for Veg, 600w HPS for flower in a 4x4 tent. Here are a few questions that want your guidance on:

Soilless Medium
What would you prefer, Promix HP Myo, Sunshine Mix 4 (have you tried Sunshine Mix 2), or another?
What would you add out of the bag for these (extra perlite, dolomite)?
What's a general ph to stay at with these?

Nutes
What DG would be needed for this (Bloom, Grow, Mag-Pro, Pro-teKt, Other?)
What DG ratio would you use for veg/flower and how often would you usually feed? (I dont have a RO system)

I saw this post you made below and was wondering if you still recommend the same with all your knowledge now.

I use Sunshine mix #4 and have premixed my bloom and grow nutes (1 part grow and 3 parts bloom) in a bottle to make feeding days easier. Since I now use RO water, I feed with about 5mls of protekt and 4mls of grow/bloom per gallon during flower. That's all you need. In veg, it's more like 3 mls of protekt and 1.5mls of Grow.
Thanks ahead of time, its been fun and educational reading your posts.
 

homebrewer

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Hey HB, im new to the site and just a beginner at growing. I came across one of your journals and pretty much read all of them now. Your grows are amazing! I want to get some advice and a little direction from you. I plan on using ak47 from ss, with DG in a soilless medium like Promix HP or Sunshine Mix 4. T5 for seedling, MH for Veg, 600w HPS for flower in a 4x4 tent. Here are a few questions that want your guidance on:

Soilless Medium
What would you prefer, Promix HP Myo, Sunshine Mix 4 (have you tried Sunshine Mix 2), or another?
What would you add out of the bag for these (extra perlite, dolomite)?
What's a general ph to stay at with these?

Nutes
What DG would be needed for this (Bloom, Grow, Mag-Pro, Pro-teKt, Other?)
What DG ratio would you use for veg/flower and how often would you usually feed? (I dont have a RO system)

I saw this post you made below and was wondering if you still recommend the same with all your knowledge now.



Thanks ahead of time, its been fun and educational reading your posts.
I only use promix for 'dirt' these days. I add vermiculite and feed in the low 6.0 range for pH.

Foliage Pro from start to finish.
 

jaril

New Member
I only use promix for 'dirt' these days. I add vermiculite and feed in the low 6.0 range for pH.

Foliage Pro from start to finish.

Thanks for the quick response. Ill go ahead and use Promix HP with a little vermiculite in it to start.

Ill also get the above mentioned DG products including Foliage Pro.
For starters, should i just follow their recommended feed chart?
 

homebrewer

Well-Known Member
Thanks for the quick response. Ill go ahead and use Promix HP with a little vermiculite in it to start.

Ill also get the above mentioned DG products including Foliage Pro.
For starters, should i just follow their recommended feed chart?
Never follow feed charts.

A good starting point is their 'maintenance' directions on the backs of their bottles.
 

jaril

New Member
Never follow feed charts.

A good starting point is their 'maintenance' directions on the backs of their bottles.


Ok ill do that. For the DG line, are you saying that all I should use is Foliage-Pro from start to finish with the promix HP?. No other DG products?
 

homebrewer

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Ok ill do that. For the DG line, are you saying that all I should use is Foliage-Pro from start to finish with the promix HP?. No other DG products?
Protekt is beneficial too but not essential. Other than that, FP is all you need.

Protekt and foliage pro from start to finish:

 

curious2garden

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Staff member
Protekt is beneficial too but not essential. Other than that, FP is all you need.

Protekt and foliage pro from start to finish:
Roughly 6 weeks from seed (9/13), image taken yesterday. These guys had a little bit of Canna Start as seedlings but other than that all they have gotten is DG Foliage Pro, DG Pro Tekt and Botanicare Ca/Mg with Fe. They are beginning their second week of flower. The tallest are around 2 feet.

One of the nicest side effects of DG's Foliage Pro is it decreases the stretch that occurs in early flower. So I loose less at the bottom and can keep the canopy closer to even when running different strains. Below are 10 C 99's and 2 DNA Pure Afghans.

I have finished many plants on DG Foliage Pro and have rarely had to add in any extra P. Oh and the current dose of FP I'm running is 2 cc/gallon at this stage so start at 1 cc/gallon and see how they respond. This gives me roughly 300 on my TDS meter and I'm pushing these guys since I lost my winter harvest of 29 4 footers to thrips LOL. I usually allow for some twisting and turning of the leaves and about 1/16 to 1/8 inch burnt on the top leaves tips. If I see anymore I move to pH'ed water until they lighten up then I back off the nutrient by a 1/2 ml/ gallon.

C99-dna1.jpg

If you read back HB got me started on DG too LOL.
 

weedemart

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thrips are THE PEST you don't want in your garden. mites are jokes, easy to get rid off. Next time try Spinosad, it already saved me. It's 100% natural.
 
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