Strange phenomenon or genetic mutation?

woody333333

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the water passing thru the pot isn't in there long enough to get a reading that's true its gonna be just about the same as what you poured in every time...... if you were checking the ph and ppm of runoff in a passive hydro system w the intention of reusing the solution I would totally understand......... otherwise its a complete waste of time.......and I understand soil less pretty much is passive hydro but that's just not how you check the ph of soil ......if you read back transplanting top dressing and adding more lime were my recommendations before the flip
 

MD914

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the water passing thru the pot isn't in there long enough to get a reading that's true its gonna be just about the same as what you poured in every time...... if you were checking the ph and ppm of runoff in a passive hydro system w the intention of reusing the solution I would totally understand......... otherwise its a complete waste of time.......and I understand soil less pretty much is passive hydro but that's just not how you check the ph of soil ......if you read back transplanting top dressing and adding more lime were my recommendations before the flip
Yes you absolutely recommended that. You have basically held my hand through this grow and I give you mad reps for it! :) I did my transplant about 2 weeks before the flip, I didn't get the bat guarno but did add more lime and soil...I was using veg and bloom nutes and recently switched to just bloom. That cut out ALOT of N...I'm assuming this is why she yellowed out? The other two aren't yellowing but they aren't packing on the buds like this one yet either. She's been in a hurry since the flip...as far as the runoff pH...what your saying makes complete sense to me. I don't check it like I used to. I have a cheap probe but I don't put too much faith in that either. HOWEVER...my first grow...remember the chemical burn grow?? Lol...I could pH to 7...check my runoff and it was at 4.5...so IMO I think it is able to detect the soils pH to an EXTENT but probably only if it's an EXTREME difference...JUST my thoughts :) How's life treating you Woody? :)
 

SxIstew

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Melissa - If you are having lots of problems with pH. I'd suggest trying a new nutrient system. I did this 2 years ago and am VERY glad I did.

I killed everything with synthetics. could never get a plant to grow correctly beginning to end. Then I stumbled upon General Organics one day. Read the side of the box(GO BOX, full line of their nutes for 4 plants full life in 5gal.) and it says right on it. No pH adjustments required. You can feed every time you water all the way till the final week. I've run to 3 days before harvest and have had no "Rice Krispies" weed...(snap crackle pop)

Good luck.
 

MD914

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Melissa - If you are having lots of problems with pH. I'd suggest trying a new nutrient system. I did this 2 years ago and am VERY glad I did.

I killed everything with synthetics. could never get a plant to grow correctly beginning to end. Then I stumbled upon General Organics one day. Read the side of the box(GO BOX, full line of their nutes for 4 plants full life in 5gal.) and it says right on it. No pH adjustments required. You can feed every time you water all the way till the final week. I've run to 3 days before harvest and have had no "Rice Krispies" weed...(snap crackle pop)

Good luck.
Thanks Stew...to be honest I haven't had ANY pH issues this grow AT ALL!! The pH discussion came about after my girl started yellowing. It was suggested to check my runoff pH...but I think the problem is simply SHES HUNGRY!!
 

SxIstew

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Yeah. just needs a little extra Nitrogen. :)

My Trainwreck currently takes 15mL of BioThrive per gallon(10mL Bloom, 5mL Grow)
But the rest of my plants only take 10mL of BioThrive Bloom per gallon

If I don't feed her this way she will turn completely yellow. lol... it's happened 2 times before already.
 

woody333333

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Yes you absolutely recommended that. You have basically held my hand through this grow and I give you mad reps for it! :) I did my transplant about 2 weeks before the flip, I didn't get the bat guarno but did add more lime and soil...I was using veg and bloom nutes and recently switched to just bloom. That cut out ALOT of N...I'm assuming this is why she yellowed out? The other two aren't yellowing but they aren't packing on the buds like this one yet either. She's been in a hurry since the flip...as far as the runoff pH...what your saying makes complete sense to me. I don't check it like I used to. I have a cheap probe but I don't put too much faith in that either. HOWEVER...my first grow...remember the chemical burn grow?? Lol...I could pH to 7...check my runoff and it was at 4.5...so IMO I think it is able to detect the soils pH to an EXTENT but probably only if it's an EXTREME difference...JUST my thoughts :) How's life treating you Woody? :)
lifes good..........bunch of assholes knocking on my door today.......4.5 runoff would have been caused by a salt build up washing thru but to say that you could detect an extreme swing in ph is correct.........best thing you could do for that plant would be to transplant into a pot of ocean forest and water a couple times w distilled........ you do have some fade from a lack of nitrogen but your big problem is temp and calcium ........im not trying to hold your hand I just wanna see you out grow that fukr vega
 

SxIstew

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The hostility returned. And I'm passing through the "EXIT" door again. sorry Melissa. I'll sub up again in the future. When people can just STOP.

I love when only one form of growing style and ways of doing this is OK but every thing else is shit. Closed minds never win.

Stew
 

MD914

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lifes good..........bunch of assholes knocking on my door today.......4.5 runoff would have been caused by a salt build up washing thru but to say that you could detect an extreme swing in ph is correct.........best thing you could do for that plant would be to transplant into a pot of ocean forest and water a couple times w distilled........ you do have some fade from a lack of nitrogen but your big problem is temp and calcium ........im not trying to hold your hand I just wanna see you out grow that fukr vega
How did Vega get brought into this?? :shock: I don't have that plant with the super low pH anymore...I'm feeding Cal Mag Plus every watering...sent you a PM...are you going to answer me?
 

woody333333

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The hostility returned. And I'm passing through the "EXIT" door again. sorry Melissa. I'll sub up again in the future. When people can just STOP.

I love when only one form of growing style and ways of doing this is OK but every thing else is shit. Closed minds never win.

Stew
kinda sounds like maybe youre the one w the closed mind............what are you crying about this time?
 

MD914

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I gotta get a shot in where I can.............
But Vegas not even around to defend himself!! Woody...do you like confrontation or what?!?! Please read and respond to my PM before my battery dies...I forgot my charger this morning...
 

Mr.Vega

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But Vegas not even around to defend himself!! Woody...do you like confrontation or what?!?! Please read and respond to my PM before my battery dies...I forgot my charger this morning...
manofsteel2.jpegsombody say Vega?!?!...im here...whats the.problem missy?
 

Mr.Vega

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But Vegas not even around to defend himself!! Woody...do you like confrontation or what?!?! Please read and respond to my PM before my battery dies...I forgot my charger this morning...
if u asked him.too many ??s he wont respond...cmon missy u know this...
 

Mr.Vega

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I came to.tel u ur.new avatar is sexy as fuck.....whatever the fuck is goin on there...ha....freak
 

MD914

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I came to.tel u ur.new avatar is sexy as fuck.....whatever the fuck is goin on there...ha....freak
Its Poison Ivy (the villain...that's me) she's got Superman bond and gagged in the background and the Joker is hovering...LOL...
TRUE STORY!!! :razz:
 
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