who knows autos?
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rory420420
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I know jack about autos but one statement from a friend and he said auto cheese yeiled good for him..quality I couldn't tell ya about..if I had extra room id clone from my current stock that will def yeild more weight and potencey
OGEvilgenius
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The answer is to put more regular plants in those spaces because autos are inferior. Unless of course those spots are veg spots. Gun to my head if I grew an auto again (unlikely) it would be La Diva based on my experience with La Diva, Afghan Kush Ryder, Think Different and Blue Mammoth.
TonightYou
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couldn't of said it better myself. autos are a waste of space, barely worthy of the hash pile, and make no sense unless you really like hemp.
solution, grow more regular plants
Banana444
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Is there some logical reasoning (science) behind why autos are soooo terrible. I have been looking at some strains from herbies and their top selling autos and am interested, less grow time=less cost but what do I know that's why I ask. It appears autos are all crossed with a ruderalis strain, is that what makes them flower automatically? Obviouslya pure ruderalis strains of cannabis are worthless, but herbies claims over 15% thc on many auto strains. Time to read more I guess.
Lurkdewitt
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You guys who are hating on autos have probably never even grown one. They are by no means inferior to photos and you get the same yield and potency if you pick a good strain and you are half way competent. I yielded 2.5 ounces off a single advanced seeds skunk mass in 58 days from seed. It taste great, smokes great and definitely has high thc and cbd content.
you guys need to get up on current auto genetics. It's not the mid 90's anymore guys.
if your running a veg and flower tent separate, toss a few autos in the veg tent and trust me, you will not be disappointed! Good luck bro
you guys need to get up on current auto genetics. It's not the mid 90's anymore guys.
if your running a veg and flower tent separate, toss a few autos in the veg tent and trust me, you will not be disappointed! Good luck bro
OGEvilgenius
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I grew out a bunch of autos. They were all crap compared to good normal plants. Why? Because Cannabis is incredibly diverse genetically and Ruderallis is ditch weed. You can't avoid having the ditch weed genetics shine through because breeders are not capable of growing billions of plants required for proper selection to ensure only the autoflowering trait is passed, and even if it was the only trait passed on from the ditch weed it could still be highly detrimental.
Bottom line is a lot of Auto growers love Think Different. Bottom line for me is I grew out over 20 of them and they were C grade at best.
Even the breeders of autos, at least the ones that also have regular versions, say the autoflowering versions are inferior. At least if they're being honest. That isn't to say there is absolutely no place for autoflowering plants. But it's not in the indoor cannabis drug gene pool, that's for fuckin certain.
Bottom line is a lot of Auto growers love Think Different. Bottom line for me is I grew out over 20 of them and they were C grade at best.
Even the breeders of autos, at least the ones that also have regular versions, say the autoflowering versions are inferior. At least if they're being honest. That isn't to say there is absolutely no place for autoflowering plants. But it's not in the indoor cannabis drug gene pool, that's for fuckin certain.
OGEvilgenius
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It's more cost effective to grow regular seeds. 18/6 costs more than 12/12. Autos also yield less in the same time frame, especially if you have a mother plant and are monocropping.
Autos universally need the extra light to "shine" (and I use the term loosely because the end product is inferior). You'll never get the same yields at the same low cost you can get with regular seeds and you have the added bonus of having a crop that isn't uniform - every time (because like I said, breeders cannot grow the plant numbers required for exceptional stability unless they spend many many many years working the line and even then stability is unlikely and you're getting an IBL and not an F1 so you will have a low vigor plant - awesome!).
Autos are appealing to the seed industry because it makes people more dependent on seed pureyors.
I'm gonna go further since you seem to be getting information from marijuana publications and other questionable sources and say you need to ignore almost everything everyone says on here and get your nose deep into actual botany, genetics and biology text books. The closest thing in our industry is Robert C Clarkes Marijuana Botany. And that's a really old book with old research that hasn't been updated recently. Also check out Teaming with Microbes. A great intro to how plants actually grow in nature (organically).
Lurkdewitt
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Most breeders literally breed out undesirable traits such as low potency and yield. If it takes billions of plants to ensure that shitty traits don't show themselves, then everyone who buys seeds, photo or auto, are getting ripped off. Yes, autos yield less, but an auto that is done at 60 days will more than likely yield more than a SOG application of photos unless you add 3 weeks of veg after your clones root.
Im im not trying to bash on you or argue, but I'd be willing to put my auto bud up against most photo period bud out there. I am by no means a botanist and you seem much more knowledgable in what marijuana is the best, so the OP should just listen to you. I'm gonna go smoke my poopy weed now! Cheers!
Im im not trying to bash on you or argue, but I'd be willing to put my auto bud up against most photo period bud out there. I am by no means a botanist and you seem much more knowledgable in what marijuana is the best, so the OP should just listen to you. I'm gonna go smoke my poopy weed now! Cheers!
TonightYou
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You are talking shit! No auto has come close at all in potency or yield in comparison to regular photo plants, period.
If you think an auto is better, i have a bridge to sell you.
throw one in and you will be disappointed, i know i was. a much better plant could have been in its place and it didn't even met the bullshit 60 days...more like 75. For what, a junky plant that was worse than brick mexican schwag. Seriously wasnt worth smoking and really was just pure shit.
Lurkdewitt
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Blah blah. Don't be a crybaby bro. I stated my opinion and you didn't like it. Get over it. You keep growing your photos, I'll keep growing both and enjoying my smoke much quicker than you
I wasnt trying to piss in anyone's wheaties but it seemed I did anyways. Oh well!
Its ok thanks for your POSITIVE info bro. Some ppl just love to talk shit. Of course i've heard of all the cons associated with autos. And I would still like to see with my own 2 eyes. I guess that just to hard for ppl to understandBlah blah. Don't be a crybaby bro. I stated my opinion and you didn't like it. Get over it. You keep growing your photos, I'll keep growing both and enjoying my smoke much quicker than you
I wasnt trying to piss in anyone's wheaties but it seemed I did anyways. Oh well!
TonightYou
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I am simply correcting a falsehood. Wanna grow shit cannabis, be my guest. Isn't my smoke. instead of staying an opinion, i am stating fact. I don't mean disrespect, but nonsense is high in this community.
Lurkdewitt
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You might want to check your "facts" buddy. You are completely in the dark with autos and have been for 5-10 years. Your "facts" were very true in the 90's when only the joint doctor had successfully made an auto. Time to get with the times man. Go onto the autoflower sub section and look around a bit. You might be surprised! No disrespect, but you are really misinformed on modern day autoflowering cannabis.
amgprb
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Or, just put an end to this arguement.... Fuck it, grow both! Everyone has their own preferences and opinions. I to was/am anti-auto, but out of my own curiousity, I popped 4 of em to throw in my veg box. I popped 5 reg beans too. My girls in the flower box will be finished in 4 weeks, so my 5 regs will move in there, and the autos will stay in the veg box. Not expecting anything amazing, but i am hoping for the best!
Lurkdewitt
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It's more of a debate than an argument IMO. But I agree, and I do grow both, and as long as autos stay up with photos, I'll keep growing them! I didn't think autos whereas good either, but after my last grow, I wasn't disappointed and could literally not tell the difference from auto to photo. Good luck with your grow man! You shouldn't be disappointed unless something goes terribly wrong! Just out of curiousity, what strain(s) re you running?
TonightYou
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Where are your facts? Care to share a grow? Maybe a photo? Cause I don't see it. I'm fairly up on my cannabis knowledge, it is an interest of mine.
The auto I grew was this year by the way. I've seen others growing autos, I've smoked autos, unfortunately. I can see there place perhaps outdoors, if all you care about is cash cropping, or live in a very northern climate.
If I had listened to others, I wouldn't have waste my time. It was an experiment, one that cost me space, time, and resources. It wasn't fuck all, as it was interesting, but again I really can't see growing them indoors. Time which could have been better spent popping some other ceed. If one person perhaps pursues this with the idea of playing with this novelty, and it is just that in drug varients of cannabis, and save themselves the headaches than I've contributed something useful. Unless of course their goal is for outdoors, or commerical. Even that doesn't make any sense as the yield is not going to touch good photo sensitive varities, no auto is coming close to whats in the gardens of photo varient cannabis.
The auto I grew was this year by the way. I've seen others growing autos, I've smoked autos, unfortunately. I can see there place perhaps outdoors, if all you care about is cash cropping, or live in a very northern climate.
If I had listened to others, I wouldn't have waste my time. It was an experiment, one that cost me space, time, and resources. It wasn't fuck all, as it was interesting, but again I really can't see growing them indoors. Time which could have been better spent popping some other ceed. If one person perhaps pursues this with the idea of playing with this novelty, and it is just that in drug varients of cannabis, and save themselves the headaches than I've contributed something useful. Unless of course their goal is for outdoors, or commerical. Even that doesn't make any sense as the yield is not going to touch good photo sensitive varities, no auto is coming close to whats in the gardens of photo varient cannabis.
Lurkdewitt
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Here's probably the best example of what autos can do. https://www.rollitup.org/auto-flowering-strains/553701-1250-watt-4x4-hydro-scrog.html
ill add some of my pictures from my auto grow when my girlfriend gets home with her ipad.
Cannabis is something I have been researching for a long time as well. I love learning about all varieties as well as breeding. One of the most common misconceptions now is that autos are completely sub-par compared photo period cannabis. Some strains are garbage, but there are many strains that outshine 90% of photos. I'm really not trying to argue man, one mans trash is another mans treasure, but soon enough the truth will get more popular and people will stop bashing autos for no apparent reason.
also, what strain was it that you grew?
ill add some of my pictures from my auto grow when my girlfriend gets home with her ipad.
Cannabis is something I have been researching for a long time as well. I love learning about all varieties as well as breeding. One of the most common misconceptions now is that autos are completely sub-par compared photo period cannabis. Some strains are garbage, but there are many strains that outshine 90% of photos. I'm really not trying to argue man, one mans trash is another mans treasure, but soon enough the truth will get more popular and people will stop bashing autos for no apparent reason.
also, what strain was it that you grew?