Total Noob using teas and I am a believer

Javadog

Javadog

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RedCarpetMatches said:
Tim Wilson's studies show you want an air pump capable of at least .05 CFM per gallon or 1.42 liters/minute...optimum being .08 CFM per gallon (2.27 LPM) or greater. So if brewing 5 gallons you need an air pump capable of at least 7 LPM. The aquarium pumps are vague with their specs. Usually, they'll just say this is for a 10 gallon or whatever sized tank. You would need 2 Whisper 40s to just produce enough air for roughly 3.5 gallons. Idealy, you want 11.3 LPM for 5 gallons. This is what I would order for 5 gallons http://www.hydroponics.net/i/132912 and it's cheap. Here's any easy converter for everyone http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/flow-units-converter-d_405.html
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My air pump is about that size. I am hoping that my waterfall is making
up the difference.

I suppose that I will not know for sure whether I am right until I figure
out my TDO meter and get using it.

Soon.

JD

P.S. I thought that you might like this new appearance...

You do not see Maitake fruiting every day....not where I am anyway:

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....and here are shots of my current tea. I used about 2/3 of the batch this morning:
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GandalfdaGreen

GandalfdaGreen

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Javadog said:
My air pump is about that size. I am hoping that my waterfall is making
up the difference.

I suppose that I will not know for sure whether I am right until I figure
out my TDO meter and get using it.

Soon.

JD

P.S. I thought that you might like this new appearance...

You do not see Maitake fruiting every day....not where I am anyway:

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....and here are shots of my current tea. I used about 2/3 of the batch this morning:
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Great pictures. I love the Maitake. Beautiful. Your waterfall is cool as hell.


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GandalfdaGreen

GandalfdaGreen

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RedCarpetMatches said:
Tim Wilson's studies show you want an air pump capable of at least .05 CFM per gallon or 1.42 liters/minute...optimum being .08 CFM per gallon (2.27 LPM) or greater. So if brewing 5 gallons you need an air pump capable of at least 7 LPM. The aquarium pumps are vague with their specs. Usually, they'll just say this is for a 10 gallon or whatever sized tank. You would need 2 Whisper 40s to just produce enough air for roughly 3.5 gallons. Idealy, you want 11.3 LPM for 5 gallons. This is what I would order for 5 gallons http://www.hydroponics.net/i/132912 and it's cheap. Here's any easy converter for everyone http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/flow-units-converter-d_405.html
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st0w...don't you run a 45 LPM pump? I run a 40 LPM pump. I have a bunch of aquarium pumps too. My aquarium pumps put out some cool teas. I have no scientific evidence to back up my claims. The pump you are showing is sweet. I think this stuff is so cool. I am using two teas tonight.
 
AllDayToker

AllDayToker

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st0wandgrow said:
First off, you won't hurt your plant with ACT's. It's more of a question of how much is enough. IMO, if you haven't established a thriving colony of microorganisms in your soil by the 3'rd week of flower, then it's probably too late. Adding ACT's beyong week 3 of flower certainly doesn't hurt anything, but I wonder if there is any actual benefit.

I try to jump-start that micro-herd while my soil is sitting, prior to ever sticking a plant in it. Right after mixing the soil I wet it down with an ACT. I want those critters getting to work breaking down all of the organic goodies I amended the soil with. I will then apply a couple more ACT's during veg (5 weeks veg) and then one last one in early flower. The nutrient teas I use more often. Maybe once every week or so during veg and early flower.
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Pre-soak soil, few times in veg, once in early flower for ACTs

Nute teas during veg and early flower. You don't use anything during flowering?

RedCarpetMatches said:
Tim Wilson's studies show you want an air pump capable of at least .05 CFM per gallon or 1.42 liters/minute...optimum being .08 CFM per gallon (2.27 LPM) or greater. So if brewing 5 gallons you need an air pump capable of at least 7 LPM. The aquarium pumps are vague with their specs. Usually, they'll just say this is for a 10 gallon or whatever sized tank. You would need 2 Whisper 40s to just produce enough air for roughly 3.5 gallons. Idealy, you want 11.3 LPM for 5 gallons. This is what I would order for 5 gallons http://www.hydroponics.net/i/132912 and it's cheap. Here's any easy converter for everyone http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/flow-units-converter-d_405.html
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I have about a dozen aquarium air pumps lying around. I should have a Whisper 60 with two outlets in that group, that with two Whisper 40s should be good for the 5 gallon bucket then.
 
May11th

May11th

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Lol I have 1 37 lpm and 1 70 lpm, they are hooked up to airate water q and teas. About 50 gallons per pump.
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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AllDayToker said:
Pre-soak soil, few times in veg, once in early flower for ACTs

Nute teas during veg and early flower. You don't use anything during flowering?



I have about a dozen aquarium air pumps lying around. I should have a Whisper 60 with two outlets in that group, that with two Whisper 40s should be good for the 5 gallon bucket then.
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I use the alfalfa/kelp tea for the first 3 weeks of flower, and then top dress with granules (something higher in P-K like Espoma Garden-Tone) midway through week 4. I'm sure you could brew some teas to accomplish the same thing, but the top dress is just my preference.
 
RedCarpetMatches

RedCarpetMatches

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Myco your box is full!

Rrog you ain't kidding. I did the math lol. Figuring out how much aloe filet and coconut water for 8 oz of foliar was a bitch too.
 
Javadog

Javadog

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GandalfdaGreen said:
st0w...don't you run a 45 LPM pump? I run a 40 LPM pump. I have a bunch of aquarium pumps too. My aquarium pumps put out some cool teas. I have no scientific evidence to back up my claims. The pump you are showing is sweet. I think this stuff is so cool. I am using two teas tonight.
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I was afraid that my aquarium type pump would not be able to make
bubble when the water was 3' deep or more, but it has done fine.
(so now I get to worry about burning up the diaphragm ;0)

I am going to be looking into better air pumps, and even better water pumps,
as I would like to try RDWC some time.

Take care,

JD
 
GandalfdaGreen

GandalfdaGreen

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Javadog said:
I was afraid that my aquarium type pump would not be able to make
bubble when the water was 3' deep or more, but it has done fine.
(so now I get to worry about burning up the diaphragm ;0)

I am going to be looking into better air pumps, and even better water pumps,
as I would like to try RDWC some time.

Take care,

JD
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Have you ever come across Genuity's Organic DWC plants? Insane stuff. This is a genuity picture from this thread using the DWC with xtreme tea. This is Gage gear.

 
mycomaster

mycomaster

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That's so cool you found that video with Soma. My old man would do exactly that when growing outside. I always thought he was lazy with just plopping his plants on the soil, and not in it. He would have massive root knots on top of his soil, just like Soma showed in his video. Never gave it much thought until now though, LOL. I wish like hell I had some pics of it. Thanks for the memory blast Gandalf. I'll be looking into raised gardening for sure now, but don't if know if I'll be able to do to do it inside. Peace & Love. Myco
 
AllDayToker

AllDayToker

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st0wandgrow said:
I use the alfalfa/kelp tea for the first 3 weeks of flower, and then top dress with granules (something higher in P-K like Espoma Garden-Tone) midway through week 4. I'm sure you could brew some teas to accomplish the same thing, but the top dress is just my preference.
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Alright cool, seems like it would be a little easier, less teas to brew.
 
RedCarpetMatches

RedCarpetMatches

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May11th said:
Lol I have 1 37 lpm and 1 70 lpm, they are hooked up to airate water q and teas. About 50 gallons per pump.
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Not good bro. 37 LPM will do 26 gallons max. 70 LPM will barely do 50 gallons. You have to have enough dissolved oxygen to support your microbes. I was rocked when I first read Stow's link and realized I wasn't aerating my ACT enough. Sometimes after a day or two it would smell like skunk...in a bad way.
 
GandalfdaGreen

GandalfdaGreen

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AllDayToker said:
Alright cool, seems like it would be a little easier, less teas to brew.
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It really is a very individual thing. The most important individuals being the specific phenos you are running. I have found that 95% of the phenos I like all can "handle" or do ok with one type of schedule at a certain strength. The mix you are growing in is different than st0w's, May's, Java's, etc. Play around and go slow. You will find the pattern your plants want and what teas they like best. You know what you are doing.
 
GandalfdaGreen

GandalfdaGreen

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mycomaster said:
That's so cool you found that video with Soma. My old man would do exactly that when growing outside. I always thought he was lazy with just plopping his plants on the soil, and not in it. He would have massive root knots on top of his soil, just like Soma showed in his video. Never gave it much thought until now though, LOL. I wish like hell I had some pics of it. Thanks for the memory blast Gandalf. I'll be looking into raised gardening for sure now, but don't if know if I'll be able to do to do it inside. Peace & Love. Myco
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I really like the idea. I never knew the roots above the medium were "air roots" as Soma called them. That cat knows what's up. I trust every word he brings to the table.
 
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