DutchKillsRambo
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Muchos Gracias.
It's back Silk Road 2.0
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LIBERTYCHICKEN
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What realy gets me is 1/2 the stuff being sold on their is RC's anyway but being sold/labbeled for human consumption
Why not just order straight from china / india the same stuff but legally
Why not just order straight from china / india the same stuff but legally
Impman
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More likely though, the FBI got a search warrant on Silk Road and a a warrant on the provider of the "scrambled IP address". So, to keep the warrants still valid, they merely relaunched the site and called in Silk Road 2.0. They are probably trying to get a few bigger vendors, or just run a massive sweep and get as many people as possible. I'm sure in many cases there is local support. This shit is all over our local media. I am sure our Sheriff would love to get in on the Silk Road shake down, just as yours would. Careful out there kids. Paranoia... its what keeps Sasquatch alive..... lol
slumdog80
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[h=1]from vice.com
Good News Drug Users—The Silk Road Is Back[/h]
By Joseph Cox
[h=5]A message from the administrator of the new Silk Road[/h] Later today, Silk Road is rising from the dead. After the FBI seized the deep web's favourite illegal drug market and arrested its alleged founder Ross Ulbricht last month (for, among other things, ordering a hit through his own website), the online-marketplace-cum-libertarian-movement has found a new home and will be opening for business at 16:20 GMT this afternoon.
In the wake of the original Silk Road's closure, everything became a little turbulent for its users. First, they had to get used to not getting high-quality, peer-reviewed drugs delivered direct to their sofas. (Though presumably they didn't stop getting high, instead forced back to the "mystery mix" street dealers and surly ex-Balkan war criminals who have spent years filling cities with drugs at night.) Some users were pissed off that they'd lost all the Bitcoin wealth they'd amassed, or that paid-for orders would go undelivered, while small-time dealers freaked out about how they suddenly lacked the funds to pay off debts owed to drug sellers higher up the food chain.
Viable Silk Road replacements have been thin on the ground. Project Black Flag, one marketplace purportedly created to fill the void, appears to have been a scam. The site's owner recently closed up shop and made off with a load of Bitcoins without sending any product out to customers. Another alternative, Sheep, has been plagued with security worries, with many vendors deciding to hold off until a more stable site is launched.
[h=5]The "Sheep" marketplace, one of the alternatives to Silk Road[/h] Of those who did decide to continue selling their product – be it drugs, guns, assassinations or tutorials on how to hack ATMs – the well established site Black Market Reloaded seemed the obvious choice, and its popularity skyrocketed after Silk Road was closed down. However, it has since suffered a bunch of short-term shutdowns, with some seeing this as a signal that the site is on its way out. Mind you, at the time of writing the website boasts over 6,000 listings for drugs and around 250 for weapons, which doesn't seem like the kind of thing you'd see on a marketplace on the verge of shutting down.
But now drug users can rejoice, because Silk Road is back, promising to provide the same level of reliable service as it did before it was busted. The site's new leader – who's taken on Ulbricht's title of "Dread Pirate Roberts" (DPR), the name Ulbricht supposedly used while allegedly helming the site – was kind enough to grant me early access to Silk Road 2.0 ahead of its launch today. As far as I can see, the layout itself is very similar to the previous version, with users able to navigate through lists and subsections of a bunch of stuff you'd be unlikely to find anyone selling on the high street. Currently, the majority of listings are drugs or drug paraphernalia, but we can assume that other illegal products and services will be listed once the site is live and vendors know it can be trusted.
[h=5]The drugs section on the new Silk Road[/h] DPR has been stoking anticipation for the relaunch by releasing a number of cryptic clues relating to the site's release date, building up a furore of excitement on the forums in the process. One flirty indication was a string of binary that translates to "Feeling Curious?"; another said, in Swedish, "The person who waits for something good never waits too long."
Several other quotes released by DPR and his team – all members of the original Silk Road community – reinforce the site's libertarian leanings. For example, Nelson Mandela's, "There is no such thing as part freedom," and Dwight D Eisenhower's, "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." Community members have been scrambling over these, pulling their efforts together to decipher what they mean.
Everyone involved, it's fair to assume, is very excited. But regardless of whether the new site can live up to its history as the deep web's go-to marketplace, it's arguably more remarkable that within just a month of the original Silk Road being closed down, another version has come into existence.
The War on Drugs is familiar with these patterns of surge and bust. Online, as in the real world, any victory claimed by international trafficking police is usually followed by a setback as the demand for drugs keeps the supply chain kicking along. The most recent example is the phenomenon of legal highs and research chemicals; as soon as one substance is banned, a dozen more are created by slightly modifying the chemical structure to avoid breaking any laws.
All in all, 243 new drugs have appeared since 2009, according to the European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction. (Actually, make that 244.) This demonstrates both how futile and dangerous it is to blindly ban any new substance that emerges. It doesn't stop anyone from using whatever alternative appears on the market a week or two later, and leaves the user at increased risk. Although strikingly similar on a molecular level, these slightly modified drugs can have very different effects on users than their original incarnations.
[h=5]A vendor selling LSD on the new Silk Road[/h] These deep web marketplaces follow the same process – shut one down and the community simply migrates, or other new sites spring up within a matter of days. As such, there's a danger to shutting them down in the first place. When there's a regulated – albeit still illegal – retailer to buy your narcotics from, you can check ratings and reviews and have a good idea that the stuff you're getting has a high purity level, meaning the drug is both more effective and far less likely to kill you.
When that disappears, you're forced to either buy on the street – leaving yourself open to product that's full of cutting agents and other nasty stuff – or move your custom to a new site. And unless that new site comes with positive, reliable reviews, you might be putting more than just your money on the line.
The online community of drug users that has sprung up around these sites is also a useful legacy of the original Silk Road. If people are going to carry on taking heroin, cocaine, LSD and whatever else they can get their hands on regardless of what law enforcement agencies do to stop them, doesn't it make sense to have a resource where people can learn how to use those substances safely? On the discussion boards you can find stuff like recommended doses and vital paraphernalia advice for both first-time and long-time users.
So, as today's relaunch of Silk Road shows, the War on Drugs is just as pointless online as it is in the real world.
@josephfcox
For more on drugs:
So You're Scrambling to Find Your Drug Dealer in a Fractured Dark Web
Why the DEA Stopped Testing Cash for Coke
To Move Drugs, Traffickers Are Hacking Shipping Containers
This story is part of VICE's ongoing production of a feature-length cinema documentary on the Silk Road's history and future, as well as the story of DPR and Ross Ulbricht's arrest. If you have legitimate information or stories to share, shoot us an email at [email protected]. We won't share any of your info unless we formally agree to do so.
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Good News Drug Users—The Silk Road Is Back[/h]
By Joseph Cox
[h=5]A message from the administrator of the new Silk Road[/h] Later today, Silk Road is rising from the dead. After the FBI seized the deep web's favourite illegal drug market and arrested its alleged founder Ross Ulbricht last month (for, among other things, ordering a hit through his own website), the online-marketplace-cum-libertarian-movement has found a new home and will be opening for business at 16:20 GMT this afternoon.
In the wake of the original Silk Road's closure, everything became a little turbulent for its users. First, they had to get used to not getting high-quality, peer-reviewed drugs delivered direct to their sofas. (Though presumably they didn't stop getting high, instead forced back to the "mystery mix" street dealers and surly ex-Balkan war criminals who have spent years filling cities with drugs at night.) Some users were pissed off that they'd lost all the Bitcoin wealth they'd amassed, or that paid-for orders would go undelivered, while small-time dealers freaked out about how they suddenly lacked the funds to pay off debts owed to drug sellers higher up the food chain.
Viable Silk Road replacements have been thin on the ground. Project Black Flag, one marketplace purportedly created to fill the void, appears to have been a scam. The site's owner recently closed up shop and made off with a load of Bitcoins without sending any product out to customers. Another alternative, Sheep, has been plagued with security worries, with many vendors deciding to hold off until a more stable site is launched.
[h=5]The "Sheep" marketplace, one of the alternatives to Silk Road[/h] Of those who did decide to continue selling their product – be it drugs, guns, assassinations or tutorials on how to hack ATMs – the well established site Black Market Reloaded seemed the obvious choice, and its popularity skyrocketed after Silk Road was closed down. However, it has since suffered a bunch of short-term shutdowns, with some seeing this as a signal that the site is on its way out. Mind you, at the time of writing the website boasts over 6,000 listings for drugs and around 250 for weapons, which doesn't seem like the kind of thing you'd see on a marketplace on the verge of shutting down.
But now drug users can rejoice, because Silk Road is back, promising to provide the same level of reliable service as it did before it was busted. The site's new leader – who's taken on Ulbricht's title of "Dread Pirate Roberts" (DPR), the name Ulbricht supposedly used while allegedly helming the site – was kind enough to grant me early access to Silk Road 2.0 ahead of its launch today. As far as I can see, the layout itself is very similar to the previous version, with users able to navigate through lists and subsections of a bunch of stuff you'd be unlikely to find anyone selling on the high street. Currently, the majority of listings are drugs or drug paraphernalia, but we can assume that other illegal products and services will be listed once the site is live and vendors know it can be trusted.
[h=5]The drugs section on the new Silk Road[/h] DPR has been stoking anticipation for the relaunch by releasing a number of cryptic clues relating to the site's release date, building up a furore of excitement on the forums in the process. One flirty indication was a string of binary that translates to "Feeling Curious?"; another said, in Swedish, "The person who waits for something good never waits too long."
Several other quotes released by DPR and his team – all members of the original Silk Road community – reinforce the site's libertarian leanings. For example, Nelson Mandela's, "There is no such thing as part freedom," and Dwight D Eisenhower's, "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." Community members have been scrambling over these, pulling their efforts together to decipher what they mean.
Everyone involved, it's fair to assume, is very excited. But regardless of whether the new site can live up to its history as the deep web's go-to marketplace, it's arguably more remarkable that within just a month of the original Silk Road being closed down, another version has come into existence.
The War on Drugs is familiar with these patterns of surge and bust. Online, as in the real world, any victory claimed by international trafficking police is usually followed by a setback as the demand for drugs keeps the supply chain kicking along. The most recent example is the phenomenon of legal highs and research chemicals; as soon as one substance is banned, a dozen more are created by slightly modifying the chemical structure to avoid breaking any laws.
All in all, 243 new drugs have appeared since 2009, according to the European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction. (Actually, make that 244.) This demonstrates both how futile and dangerous it is to blindly ban any new substance that emerges. It doesn't stop anyone from using whatever alternative appears on the market a week or two later, and leaves the user at increased risk. Although strikingly similar on a molecular level, these slightly modified drugs can have very different effects on users than their original incarnations.
[h=5]A vendor selling LSD on the new Silk Road[/h] These deep web marketplaces follow the same process – shut one down and the community simply migrates, or other new sites spring up within a matter of days. As such, there's a danger to shutting them down in the first place. When there's a regulated – albeit still illegal – retailer to buy your narcotics from, you can check ratings and reviews and have a good idea that the stuff you're getting has a high purity level, meaning the drug is both more effective and far less likely to kill you.
When that disappears, you're forced to either buy on the street – leaving yourself open to product that's full of cutting agents and other nasty stuff – or move your custom to a new site. And unless that new site comes with positive, reliable reviews, you might be putting more than just your money on the line.
The online community of drug users that has sprung up around these sites is also a useful legacy of the original Silk Road. If people are going to carry on taking heroin, cocaine, LSD and whatever else they can get their hands on regardless of what law enforcement agencies do to stop them, doesn't it make sense to have a resource where people can learn how to use those substances safely? On the discussion boards you can find stuff like recommended doses and vital paraphernalia advice for both first-time and long-time users.
So, as today's relaunch of Silk Road shows, the War on Drugs is just as pointless online as it is in the real world.
@josephfcox
For more on drugs:
So You're Scrambling to Find Your Drug Dealer in a Fractured Dark Web
Why the DEA Stopped Testing Cash for Coke
To Move Drugs, Traffickers Are Hacking Shipping Containers
This story is part of VICE's ongoing production of a feature-length cinema documentary on the Silk Road's history and future, as well as the story of DPR and Ross Ulbricht's arrest. If you have legitimate information or stories to share, shoot us an email at [email protected]. We won't share any of your info unless we formally agree to do so.
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slumdog80
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[h=1]from vice.com
Good News Drug UsersThe Silk Road Is Back[/h]
By Joseph Cox
[h=5]A message from the administrator of the new Silk Road[/h] Later today, Silk Road is rising from the dead. After the FBI seized the deep web's favourite illegal drug market and arrested its alleged founder Ross Ulbricht last month (for, among other things, ordering a hit through his own website), the online-marketplace-cum-libertarian-movement has found a new home and will be opening for business at 16:20 GMT this afternoon.
In the wake of the original Silk Road's closure, everything became a little turbulent for its users. First, they had to get used to not getting high-quality, peer-reviewed drugs delivered direct to their sofas. (Though presumably they didn't stop getting high, instead forced back to the "mystery mix" street dealers and surly ex-Balkan war criminals who have spent years filling cities with drugs at night.) Some users were pissed off that they'd lost all the Bitcoin wealth they'd amassed, or that paid-for orders would go undelivered, while small-time dealers freaked out about how they suddenly lacked the funds to pay off debts owed to drug sellers higher up the food chain.
Viable Silk Road replacements have been thin on the ground. Project Black Flag, one marketplace purportedly created to fill the void, appears to have been a scam. The site's owner recently closed up shop and made off with a load of Bitcoins without sending any product out to customers. Another alternative, Sheep, has been plagued with security worries, with many vendors deciding to hold off until a more stable site is launched.
[h=5]The "Sheep" marketplace, one of the alternatives to Silk Road[/h] Of those who did decide to continue selling their product be it drugs, guns, assassinations or tutorials on how to hack ATMs the well established site Black Market Reloaded seemed the obvious choice, and its popularity skyrocketed after Silk Road was closed down. However, it has since suffered a bunch of short-term shutdowns, with some seeing this as a signal that the site is on its way out. Mind you, at the time of writing the website boasts over 6,000 listings for drugs and around 250 for weapons, which doesn't seem like the kind of thing you'd see on a marketplace on the verge of shutting down.
But now drug users can rejoice, because Silk Road is back, promising to provide the same level of reliable service as it did before it was busted. The site's new leader who's taken on Ulbricht's title of "Dread Pirate Roberts" (DPR), the name Ulbricht supposedly used while allegedly helming the site was kind enough to grant me early access to Silk Road 2.0 ahead of its launch today. As far as I can see, the layout itself is very similar to the previous version, with users able to navigate through lists and subsections of a bunch of stuff you'd be unlikely to find anyone selling on the high street. Currently, the majority of listings are drugs or drug paraphernalia, but we can assume that other illegal products and services will be listed once the site is live and vendors know it can be trusted.
[h=5]The drugs section on the new Silk Road[/h] DPR has been stoking anticipation for the relaunch by releasing a number of cryptic clues relating to the site's release date, building up a furore of excitement on the forums in the process. One flirty indication was a string of binary that translates to "Feeling Curious?"; another said, in Swedish, "The person who waits for something good never waits too long."
Several other quotes released by DPR and his team all members of the original Silk Road community reinforce the site's libertarian leanings. For example, Nelson Mandela's, "There is no such thing as part freedom," and Dwight D Eisenhower's, "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." Community members have been scrambling over these, pulling their efforts together to decipher what they mean.
Everyone involved, it's fair to assume, is very excited. But regardless of whether the new site can live up to its history as the deep web's go-to marketplace, it's arguably more remarkable that within just a month of the original Silk Road being closed down, another version has come into existence.
The War on Drugs is familiar with these patterns of surge and bust. Online, as in the real world, any victory claimed by international trafficking police is usually followed by a setback as the demand for drugs keeps the supply chain kicking along. The most recent example is the phenomenon of legal highs and research chemicals; as soon as one substance is banned, a dozen more are created by slightly modifying the chemical structure to avoid breaking any laws.
All in all, 243 new drugs have appeared since 2009, according to the European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction. (Actually, make that 244.) This demonstrates both how futile and dangerous it is to blindly ban any new substance that emerges. It doesn't stop anyone from using whatever alternative appears on the market a week or two later, and leaves the user at increased risk. Although strikingly similar on a molecular level, these slightly modified drugs can have very different effects on users than their original incarnations.
[h=5]A vendor selling LSD on the new Silk Road[/h] These deep web marketplaces follow the same process shut one down and the community simply migrates, or other new sites spring up within a matter of days. As such, there's a danger to shutting them down in the first place. When there's a regulated albeit still illegal retailer to buy your narcotics from, you can check ratings and reviews and have a good idea that the stuff you're getting has a high purity level, meaning the drug is both more effective and far less likely to kill you.
When that disappears, you're forced to either buy on the street leaving yourself open to product that's full of cutting agents and other nasty stuff or move your custom to a new site. And unless that new site comes with positive, reliable reviews, you might be putting more than just your money on the line.
The online community of drug users that has sprung up around these sites is also a useful legacy of the original Silk Road. If people are going to carry on taking heroin, cocaine, LSD and whatever else they can get their hands on regardless of what law enforcement agencies do to stop them, doesn't it make sense to have a resource where people can learn how to use those substances safely? On the discussion boards you can find stuff like recommended doses and vital paraphernalia advice for both first-time and long-time users.
So, as today's relaunch of Silk Road shows, the War on Drugs is just as pointless online as it is in the real world.
@josephfcox
For more on drugs:
So You're Scrambling to Find Your Drug Dealer in a Fractured Dark Web
Why the DEA Stopped Testing Cash for Coke
To Move Drugs, Traffickers Are Hacking Shipping Containers
This story is part of VICE's ongoing production of a feature-length cinema documentary on the Silk Road's history and future, as well as the story of DPR and Ross Ulbricht's arrest. If you have legitimate information or stories to share, shoot us an email at [email protected]. We won't share any of your info unless we formally agree to do so.
By Joseph Cox 1 day ago Tags: drugs, Silk Road, darknet, deep web
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Good News Drug UsersThe Silk Road Is Back[/h]
By Joseph Cox
[h=5]A message from the administrator of the new Silk Road[/h] Later today, Silk Road is rising from the dead. After the FBI seized the deep web's favourite illegal drug market and arrested its alleged founder Ross Ulbricht last month (for, among other things, ordering a hit through his own website), the online-marketplace-cum-libertarian-movement has found a new home and will be opening for business at 16:20 GMT this afternoon.
In the wake of the original Silk Road's closure, everything became a little turbulent for its users. First, they had to get used to not getting high-quality, peer-reviewed drugs delivered direct to their sofas. (Though presumably they didn't stop getting high, instead forced back to the "mystery mix" street dealers and surly ex-Balkan war criminals who have spent years filling cities with drugs at night.) Some users were pissed off that they'd lost all the Bitcoin wealth they'd amassed, or that paid-for orders would go undelivered, while small-time dealers freaked out about how they suddenly lacked the funds to pay off debts owed to drug sellers higher up the food chain.
Viable Silk Road replacements have been thin on the ground. Project Black Flag, one marketplace purportedly created to fill the void, appears to have been a scam. The site's owner recently closed up shop and made off with a load of Bitcoins without sending any product out to customers. Another alternative, Sheep, has been plagued with security worries, with many vendors deciding to hold off until a more stable site is launched.
[h=5]The "Sheep" marketplace, one of the alternatives to Silk Road[/h] Of those who did decide to continue selling their product be it drugs, guns, assassinations or tutorials on how to hack ATMs the well established site Black Market Reloaded seemed the obvious choice, and its popularity skyrocketed after Silk Road was closed down. However, it has since suffered a bunch of short-term shutdowns, with some seeing this as a signal that the site is on its way out. Mind you, at the time of writing the website boasts over 6,000 listings for drugs and around 250 for weapons, which doesn't seem like the kind of thing you'd see on a marketplace on the verge of shutting down.
But now drug users can rejoice, because Silk Road is back, promising to provide the same level of reliable service as it did before it was busted. The site's new leader who's taken on Ulbricht's title of "Dread Pirate Roberts" (DPR), the name Ulbricht supposedly used while allegedly helming the site was kind enough to grant me early access to Silk Road 2.0 ahead of its launch today. As far as I can see, the layout itself is very similar to the previous version, with users able to navigate through lists and subsections of a bunch of stuff you'd be unlikely to find anyone selling on the high street. Currently, the majority of listings are drugs or drug paraphernalia, but we can assume that other illegal products and services will be listed once the site is live and vendors know it can be trusted.
[h=5]The drugs section on the new Silk Road[/h] DPR has been stoking anticipation for the relaunch by releasing a number of cryptic clues relating to the site's release date, building up a furore of excitement on the forums in the process. One flirty indication was a string of binary that translates to "Feeling Curious?"; another said, in Swedish, "The person who waits for something good never waits too long."
Several other quotes released by DPR and his team all members of the original Silk Road community reinforce the site's libertarian leanings. For example, Nelson Mandela's, "There is no such thing as part freedom," and Dwight D Eisenhower's, "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." Community members have been scrambling over these, pulling their efforts together to decipher what they mean.
Everyone involved, it's fair to assume, is very excited. But regardless of whether the new site can live up to its history as the deep web's go-to marketplace, it's arguably more remarkable that within just a month of the original Silk Road being closed down, another version has come into existence.
The War on Drugs is familiar with these patterns of surge and bust. Online, as in the real world, any victory claimed by international trafficking police is usually followed by a setback as the demand for drugs keeps the supply chain kicking along. The most recent example is the phenomenon of legal highs and research chemicals; as soon as one substance is banned, a dozen more are created by slightly modifying the chemical structure to avoid breaking any laws.
All in all, 243 new drugs have appeared since 2009, according to the European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction. (Actually, make that 244.) This demonstrates both how futile and dangerous it is to blindly ban any new substance that emerges. It doesn't stop anyone from using whatever alternative appears on the market a week or two later, and leaves the user at increased risk. Although strikingly similar on a molecular level, these slightly modified drugs can have very different effects on users than their original incarnations.
[h=5]A vendor selling LSD on the new Silk Road[/h] These deep web marketplaces follow the same process shut one down and the community simply migrates, or other new sites spring up within a matter of days. As such, there's a danger to shutting them down in the first place. When there's a regulated albeit still illegal retailer to buy your narcotics from, you can check ratings and reviews and have a good idea that the stuff you're getting has a high purity level, meaning the drug is both more effective and far less likely to kill you.
When that disappears, you're forced to either buy on the street leaving yourself open to product that's full of cutting agents and other nasty stuff or move your custom to a new site. And unless that new site comes with positive, reliable reviews, you might be putting more than just your money on the line.
The online community of drug users that has sprung up around these sites is also a useful legacy of the original Silk Road. If people are going to carry on taking heroin, cocaine, LSD and whatever else they can get their hands on regardless of what law enforcement agencies do to stop them, doesn't it make sense to have a resource where people can learn how to use those substances safely? On the discussion boards you can find stuff like recommended doses and vital paraphernalia advice for both first-time and long-time users.
So, as today's relaunch of Silk Road shows, the War on Drugs is just as pointless online as it is in the real world.
@josephfcox
For more on drugs:
So You're Scrambling to Find Your Drug Dealer in a Fractured Dark Web
Why the DEA Stopped Testing Cash for Coke
To Move Drugs, Traffickers Are Hacking Shipping Containers
This story is part of VICE's ongoing production of a feature-length cinema documentary on the Silk Road's history and future, as well as the story of DPR and Ross Ulbricht's arrest. If you have legitimate information or stories to share, shoot us an email at [email protected]. We won't share any of your info unless we formally agree to do so.
By Joseph Cox 1 day ago Tags: drugs, Silk Road, darknet, deep web
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rory420420
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38$ for 2 hits of acid!?!..hahahahaha
The 15000$ gram of crystal isn't too bad..depends on if its amber or silver or crap...I imagine with the prices indicative of quality,prob not the best..but it is a big world..
The 15000$ gram of crystal isn't too bad..depends on if its amber or silver or crap...I imagine with the prices indicative of quality,prob not the best..but it is a big world..
rory420420
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I agree duck..that's why thumbprints are handed out only for love and the solidification of trust..that's too much power to give to someone with money.like a 'psychedelic republican'lol..plus 99.99% of people don't know how to lay it properly without being shown how..and if you lay it too thick,the few hits that got 500ug compared to the rest at 100ug,well,those few hits can cause a lot of problems down the 'road'(pardon the pun)...
nugsinajug
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man either you guys are simply some negative nancy's or youre subjective to the reason of doubt with anything in life. i could go on with my reasoning, but i wont waste my energy.
you guys are not the "kingpins" of any online retailer, or you would not be at rollitup.org. simple as that. bark, bitch, complain back, i dont care, im simply saying you seem to have the answer to everything, in a very demeaning way may i add..... none of which makes dick of sense cause this is a forum discussion board and youre drowning the discussion with your interruptive (in a sense) attitude that you have to answer and have a perfect logical reason behind anything.
look dude, if someone is gettin g a G of ANYTHING online like that, its so far out of your business nor price or anything that the fact you feel you can even ask publicly shows where you stand. some people are hardcore drug addicts. some people dont have a fucked up family they can call for dope. sometimes when you live in shitty places you gotta resort to places like this. now that does not make it inferior to your friend "selling" you the product and telling yo uhow good it is. but at the end of the day that shit i got WILL kick the shit out of anythign ive seen around here lately or that you could probably get. what you're the only one doin thumbers back in the day??? grow up.
you guys are not the "kingpins" of any online retailer, or you would not be at rollitup.org. simple as that. bark, bitch, complain back, i dont care, im simply saying you seem to have the answer to everything, in a very demeaning way may i add..... none of which makes dick of sense cause this is a forum discussion board and youre drowning the discussion with your interruptive (in a sense) attitude that you have to answer and have a perfect logical reason behind anything.
look dude, if someone is gettin g a G of ANYTHING online like that, its so far out of your business nor price or anything that the fact you feel you can even ask publicly shows where you stand. some people are hardcore drug addicts. some people dont have a fucked up family they can call for dope. sometimes when you live in shitty places you gotta resort to places like this. now that does not make it inferior to your friend "selling" you the product and telling yo uhow good it is. but at the end of the day that shit i got WILL kick the shit out of anythign ive seen around here lately or that you could probably get. what you're the only one doin thumbers back in the day??? grow up.
MrEDuck
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Of course we wouldn't. Those guys all hang out at the shroomery.
Impman
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I am not worried for the drug addicts man.... I don't know about religion, or quantum physics, and I may never figure out a mescaline extract but one thing I have learned in my years: Motivated people get drugs.
also, on another note....if the cops bust up a organization, then said organization is back in business a month later and the name is not even changed on the organization. Its in the same spot, same name, and the word is out the organization is back in business.....dude if that does not put up a red flag......I don't have any drug dealing friends or family, but thats ok, You can grow some really really good drugs , man... all you need is dirt and a home.
also, on another note....if the cops bust up a organization, then said organization is back in business a month later and the name is not even changed on the organization. Its in the same spot, same name, and the word is out the organization is back in business.....dude if that does not put up a red flag......I don't have any drug dealing friends or family, but thats ok, You can grow some really really good drugs , man... all you need is dirt and a home.
JJ05
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Yeah man, FUCK ordering from theres sites. I would NEVER buy off the internet...silly kids. Anyone have any advice how I can go about finding LSD with out the internet? Perhaps music fests, concerts and what not are the obvious places, but beyond that I am at a stand still.
I found the SR had good prices on a lot of things. Prices are relative, what's acid worth when no one in a 100 mile radius is selling it and you don't like Phish. Is it a trap? Maybe, probably not. The person the arrested didn't have programming skills so there were others involved that would have skills and copies of the code. Would I be the first one to order? No.
In general, if you follow the rules it looks like it is pretty hard to get arrested buying small amounts of drugs and having it shipped via USPS first class. I would state the rules, but when the man knows we all know the rules then he will change the rules so you gotta research them on your own.
One thing the SR did do is provide a whole bunch of uncommon halucinogens. Because of that I discovered the whole new and wonderful world of phenethylamines. I think I like them more than the tryptamines and ergolines. I would strongly recommend someone try them as opposed to LSD, or maybe with LSD. It's a brave new era and you are no longer limited to the choice between mushrooms and LSD.
The important thing is that there are people out there fighting in the war on drugs and innovating to bring your the widest selection of quality drugs possible. Give them a little slack and support in their mission. Twenty years ago the concept of buying drugs with your computer sitting in your living room wearing only underwear didn't even exist. Now it's common place. Take a step back and appreciate the progress. Think about those brave people who have worked hard to invent and distribute our drugs. In a short 60 years we've gone from having a handful of drugs to more than we can count.
It's difficult sometimes being in the drug war. There are busts, setbacks, things getting banned, prisoners being taken. But look at the bigger picture. We're obviously winning, and as we continue winning some day the war will be over and we will live in freedom. We have fought longer than any war short of the 100 years war and we're still here fighting. We've gone up against an enemy with enormous resources and we've fought them to a standstill. We started with a handful of drugs and now we have a thousand, and someday in the not too distant future you will be able to buy any of them conveniently and without paranoia.
In general, if you follow the rules it looks like it is pretty hard to get arrested buying small amounts of drugs and having it shipped via USPS first class. I would state the rules, but when the man knows we all know the rules then he will change the rules so you gotta research them on your own.
One thing the SR did do is provide a whole bunch of uncommon halucinogens. Because of that I discovered the whole new and wonderful world of phenethylamines. I think I like them more than the tryptamines and ergolines. I would strongly recommend someone try them as opposed to LSD, or maybe with LSD. It's a brave new era and you are no longer limited to the choice between mushrooms and LSD.
The important thing is that there are people out there fighting in the war on drugs and innovating to bring your the widest selection of quality drugs possible. Give them a little slack and support in their mission. Twenty years ago the concept of buying drugs with your computer sitting in your living room wearing only underwear didn't even exist. Now it's common place. Take a step back and appreciate the progress. Think about those brave people who have worked hard to invent and distribute our drugs. In a short 60 years we've gone from having a handful of drugs to more than we can count.
It's difficult sometimes being in the drug war. There are busts, setbacks, things getting banned, prisoners being taken. But look at the bigger picture. We're obviously winning, and as we continue winning some day the war will be over and we will live in freedom. We have fought longer than any war short of the 100 years war and we're still here fighting. We've gone up against an enemy with enormous resources and we've fought them to a standstill. We started with a handful of drugs and now we have a thousand, and someday in the not too distant future you will be able to buy any of them conveniently and without paranoia.
Impman
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- The important thing is that there are people out there fighting in the war on drugs and innovating to bring your the widest selection of quality drugs possible.
they trying to make money bro.... the ends. and drugs have been sold on the internet for 20+.... ... thats what the net was made for man... BBS started it........ buying drugs on the internet is not fighting the war on drugs. Join NORML or protest, vote.... increase political knowledge... politicking is fighting the war man... not complacently buying drugs and having it delivered to your home....http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/drugs/cron/
DutchKillsRambo
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Well technically every time you buy drugs you are fighting the War on Drugs, though obviously not much.
Skuxx
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Well what do you think the people on the other team are fighting the war on drugs for? For most of them it's just their job as well... and they might think "drugs r bad" etc... I think selling drugs is one of the best ways to fight against the war on drugs. I mean you gotta keep the drugs on the streets, and the money flowin for the war! Some people are plain greedy. But there are a lot that understand they are providing a product and want to take pride in their product.
Everything is politics when you're in a country. And politics isn't my thing. People gotta make everything so complicated. I always try to increase people's knowledge on the benefits of certain drugs and shit when the opportunity arises... with my extremely limited knowledge that I'm always slowly working on. Most people just don't have a clue though.