since insurance deals with risk...

[UncleBuck]

Is obamacare dead yet?

no, you republicans need to put forth a presidential candidate that does not make america collectively recoil in disgust first.

also, a whole bunch more senators. you guys would have that part already if not for the tea party sending the likes of engle and buck and miller and o'donnell and legitimate rape guy and richard "blessed rape" mourdouch.

keep trying, you might figure it out one day.

 

[Flaming Pie]

Oh btw, my husbands company had to change providers. The insurance provided was not sufficient under law for next year. So now they are using HAP.

 

[UncleBuck]

Oh btw, my husbands company had to change providers. The insurance provided was not sufficient under law for next year. So now they are using HAP.

so your husband was insured, but his insurance was so bad that you had to use medicaid for your pre natal care and birth?

doesn't that send a big red banner to you about why the consumer protections we got with the PPACA are needed?

 

[abandonconflict]

Privatization is the most direct tactic for the coordinated advancement of neofeudalism by the ruling class. It is antithetical to socialism which seeks to confront the ruling class. Only a simpleton could suggest that a socialist would privatize ANYTHING EVER.

 

[burgertime2010]

Right wing bullshit. Why don't you start acting like Jesus instead of just using him to further your selfish politics?

 

[UncleBuck]

uh oh, someone invoked the memory of TEA PARTY JESUS!

 

[Flaming Pie]

no, you republicans need to put forth a presidential candidate that does not make america collectively recoil in disgust first.

also, a whole bunch more senators. you guys would have that part already if not for the tea party sending the likes of engle and buck and miller and o'donnell and legitimate rape guy and richard "blessed rape" mourdouch.

keep trying, you might figure it out one day.

I don't take resposibility for people I didn't vote for.

 

[ChesusRice]

We just renewed our plan last night.
Looks the same as last year. Same price as well.

 

[UncleBuck]

I don't take resposibility for people I didn't vote for.

just speaking generally.

 

[ChesusRice]

Is obamacare dead yet?

No....................

 

[Flaming Pie]

so your husband was insured, but his insurance was so bad that you had to use medicaid for your pre natal care and birth?

doesn't that send a big red banner to you about why the consumer protections we got with the PPACA are needed?

He wasn't insured. It would of been 400+ a month for family insurance (cheap for individual) and that was too much for us.

And I am just telling yall what happened. Not saying that it is good or bad. I am not sure yet because I haven't read the new insurance policies yet.

 

[burgertime2010]

Even whining about it, is just as bad. How about people start working together to solve problems instead of constantly blaming the other side?

Amen brother.

 

[ChesusRice]

He wasn't insured. It would of been 400+ a month for family insurance (cheap for individual) and that was too much for us.

And I am just telling yall what happened. Not saying that it is good or bad. I am not sure yet because I haven't read the new insurance policies yet.

We had a different deal when our kid was born. The company I worked for went bankrupt and after I got laid off I couldnt even get COBRA as the employer didnt pay the insurance even after taking it out of my check

 

[Flaming Pie]

We didnt qualify for medicaid in my state until I became pregnant. The state had reached it's limit of non child/mother insurance.

 

[Flaming Pie]

We had a different deal when our kid was born. The company I worked for went bankrupt and after I got laid off I couldnt even get COBRA as the employer didnt pay the insurance even after taking it out of my check

Wow. I can never understand shit like that. How selfish and cruel.

 

[burgertime2010]

I had a few seizures and was late on my bill one month. They dropped me like a bad habit and out of nowhere I had to pay 2100 per month in meds just to remain free from deadly withdrawl seizures. It took 2 years for my disability to be approved and my lawyer took 1/2 of the retroactive payment. 25,000 dollars.

 

[UncleBuck]

sorry for misunderstanding your situation, pie. i made bad assumptions.

that said, would you have preferred better your medicaid experience as it was, where everything was taken care of for you, or would you have preferred to be given a coupon for a set amount and told you were on your own to find private insurance?

 

[ChesusRice]

Wow. I can never understand shit like that. How selfish and cruel.

Even worse. I cashed my pay checks at a currency exchange and under state law i am liable for the checks. SO i had to pay back three paychecks that bounced and to top it off
Under Bakruptcy laws I was considered a "unsecured" creditor

So I was last in line (got nothing) out of the bankruptcy

 

[Flaming Pie]

sorry for misunderstanding your situation, pie. i made bad assumptions.

that said, would you have preferred better your medicaid experience as it was, where everything was taken care of for you, or would you have preferred to be given a coupon for a set amount and told you were on your own to find private insurance?

Medicaid was more than enough for me. I am only judging it on the maternity care I recieved.

 

[Flaming Pie]

I like parts of the affordable care act and dislike parts of it. I also do not have enough information to fully judge it.

I know that people making 30k and under will be pretty much taken care of on paper. Which is nice because at that income level it can be hard to scrape money together for insurance.

However, I know that in 2013 I could get a plan for 98 bucks a month for family and now the lowest plan is 200+ dollars. Could it be because of all the additional services that are required to be covered services? Most likely.

I definitely see price increases on the horizon. Because of Subsidies the increase will not be felt by lower income people. Once you go past the subsidy mark the prices change will be noticable.

There will be people who have good affordable plans that they can keep. There will be people with affordable plans that meet THEIR healthcare needs but do not measure up to law that will have to be dropped.