We Told You So

beenthere

New Member
so far, this communist regime has lowered my tax bill, lowered my health insurance bill, allowed me to carry a gun on business trains and has killed the mastermind behind what is essentially this shit storm we are all living under right now... damn them!!
Yep, true statement. I carried my concealed 9mm, and after taking it out, I put it on my lap as a conductor walked by, he simply asked if I could put it away in my overhead luggage. No problem I said.... This was on the Northeastern Express train from Boston to NYC. *Acela
Lowered your taxes, how so?
How in the world did your healthcare go down?
And Obama made a law for you to carry a concealed firearm on a train, what law?

I'll be nice and won't call BS but in all fairness, you should at least answer my three questions.
i know you have no job and no life, but those of us who do work all got tax credits through the ARRA and also through the payroll tax cut.

you dumb or something?



http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-7102819.html

it's got his signature on it and everything.

so yeah, you are dumb.

no surprises there.

Glad you brought this up Buckie cause see4 is avoiding this like the plague.

I'll address each one of see4's lies, 1-3

Lie #1. See4 claimed he made more than $250k a year, but his taxes mysteriously went down thanks to Obama, when in fact they would have went up.

Lie #2. He said his healthcare costs went down because of Obama, sorry pal, anyone making $250k a year will NOT see their healthcare go down in price, a monkey could figure this out.

Lie ##. see4 said he carried a gun on an Amtrak train, he even went as far as saying he pulled it out in front of the conductor!
The law both of your are posting links about addresses the carrying of guns in a locked bag in the baggage compartment, federal law prohibits anyone other than officers of the law to carry guns on their person!

So thank you for exposing see4's BS.

Now, who's looking like the dumbass?
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Lie #1. See4 claimed he made more than $250k a year, but his taxes mysteriously went down thanks to Obama, when in fact they would have went up.
taxes under obama have only gone up 4.3% on income above $250k, you fucking dolt.

the payroll tax cut saved him 2.6% on ever penny up to the first $108k, you fucking dolt.

not to mention the massive number of tax breaks in the ARRA for things like going to work, installing energy efficient appliance, buying a home, trading in a clunker, etc.

you're just too fucking dumb to figure this out.

Lie #2. He said his healthcare costs went down because of Obama, sorry pal, anyone making $250k a year will NOT see their healthcare go down in price, a monkey could figure this out.
that's simply not true.*

he could have switched jobs and gotten a better insurance package, which would be very common.

his insurance could have stayed the exact same, especially since health care costs have remained steady under obama, and he could have been sent a rebate check from his policy thanks to obamacare. they sent out $11 billion or so in rebates last year alone.

you fucking dolt.

Lie ##. see4 said he carried a gun on an Amtrak train, he even went as far as saying he pulled it out in front of the conductor!
The law both of your are posting links about addresses the carrying of guns in a locked bag in the baggage compartment, federal law prohibits anyone other than officers of the law to carry guns on their person!
i made a right turn on red without stopping today and the police officer didn't pull me over or give me a ticket.

nothing he said changes the fact that obama has done nothing but expand your gun rights.

which brings us back to the topic of this thread: OBAMA HAS DONE NOTHING BUT EXPAND YOUR GUN RIGHTS.

and the point you were not trying to make but did inadvertently: you are a fucking dolt.
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
taxes under obama have only gone up 4.3% on income above $250k, you fucking dolt.

the payroll tax cut saved him 2.6% on ever penny up to the first $108k, you fucking dolt.
2.6% of $108,000= $2808 deducted
4.3% of the remaining $143,000 = $6149 added
this means that someone making more than $250,000 a year would have seen an additional $3341 in taxes.

Your math sucks ass. You should not try to defend something that can be proven a lie, it makes you look pretty dumb since this math is of the 5th grade kind.
 

greenlikemoney

Well-Known Member
I believe it's called "saving your own ass"......this is just the beginning, by next summer even Jay "I lie for a living" Carney will have abandoned ship.
 

beenthere

New Member
Glad you brought this up Buckie cause see4 is avoiding this like the plague.

I'll address each one of see4's lies, 1-3

Lie #1. See4 claimed he made more than $250k a year, but his taxes mysteriously went down thanks to Obama, when in fact they would have went up.

Lie #2. He said his healthcare costs went down because of Obama, sorry pal, anyone making $250k a year will NOT see their healthcare go down in price, a monkey could figure this out.

Lie ##. see4 said he carried a gun on an Amtrak train, he even went as far as saying he pulled it out in front of the conductor!
The law both of your are posting links about addresses the carrying of guns in a locked bag in the baggage compartment, federal law prohibits anyone other than officers of the law to carry guns on their person!

So thank you for exposing see4's BS.

Now, who's looking like the dumbass?
taxes under obama have only gone up 4.3% on income above $250k, you fucking dolt.

the payroll tax cut saved him 2.6% on ever penny up to the first $108k, you fucking dolt.

you are a fucking dolt.
2.6% of $108,000= $2808 deducted
4.3% of the remaining $143,000 = $6149 added
this means that someone making more than $250,000 a year would have seen an additional $3341 in taxes.

Your math sucks ass. You should not try to defend something that can be proven a lie, it makes you look pretty dumb since this math is of the 5th grade kind.
This idiot ceases to amaze me, he jumps into an argument that doesn't involve him and makes a complete fool of himself.

hey Buckie, what about the concealed gun see4 carried on the Amtrak train, have at it!
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
2.6% of $108,000= $2808 deducted
4.3% of the remaining $143,000 = $6149 added
this means that someone making more than $250,000 a year would have seen an additional $3341 in taxes.

Your math sucks ass. You should not try to defend something that can be proven a lie, it makes you look pretty dumb since this math is of the 5th grade kind.
lol, you fucked up your math there, nimrod.

only income ABOVE $250k is taxed at the extra 4.3%, you fucking dipshit.

your math only works if see4 is making $393,000 a year, not $250,000.

in fact, with the tax savings afforded to him by the payroll tax cut alone, see4 could make $315,000 at the 4.3% higher marginal tax rate for income above $250,000 and still come out ahead.

way to fuck up what you call "math of the 5th grade kind"!

i'd offer you some kind of mercy, since doing math on an online forum while high can be dangerous, but i am just not in a merciful mood right now.

but here is how the math breaks down, for your edification:

$108,000 X 0.026 = $2808 saved annually due to obama's payroll tax cut.

X x 0.043 = $2808 (divide both sides by 0.043 to isolate X) -----> 2808/0.043 = $65,302 = X

add $65,302 to $250,000 = $315,302 is the break even point.

i bet herr beenqueer exalted your math without bothering to catch the easy, semi-retarded mistake contained therein.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
This idiot ceases to amaze me, he jumps into an argument that doesn't involve him and makes a complete fool of himself.
WOOOOOPS!

you didn't even bother to check mo' drama's shitty, fucked up math first, did ya?

:lol:

that's why you are now and will forever be an embarrassing stain on this forum that not even your fellow righties want to have around.
 

beenthere

New Member
WOOOOOPS!

you didn't even bother to check mo' drama's shitty, fucked up math first, did ya?

:lol:

that's why you are now and will forever be an embarrassing stain on this forum that not even your fellow righties want to have around.

Sure I did, you got owned!
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
What the hell are you even posting about? Talking points? Was that supposed to be a joke?



"garbage" is you going off topic on some stupid rant about dinosaurs, tea party, and little baby Jesus.
"garbage" is calling me a "science hater". Whatever the hell that means.
"garbage" is the left wing article that states Obama hasn't pushed for gun control.
"garbage" is posting that Obama doesn't want to see a gun control bill on banning guns. Piece by piece. Little by little. Whatever it takes.
The end game is to convince people the government can and should eliminate ALL guns.

According to another thread, Obama had pretty much ultimate power during his first few years in office. After all, he COULD have closed GITMO, right? but he didn't, so he must never have intended to - at least that is the argument going on in that other thread. So if this is indeed the case, and he actually wanted to ... "ban all guns". He COULD have done it in his first two years, but he didn't, so, along the same line of reasoning, he must not have wanted to.

right?
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
2.6% of $108,000= $2808 deducted
4.3% of the remaining $143,000 = $6149 added
this means that someone making more than $250,000 a year would have seen an additional $3341 in taxes.
Quit trying to change the argument and take you ass whoopin like a man.
remind me again how income below $250,000 is subject to an extra 4.3% percent taxation that only kicks in on income above $250,000.

do you need a refresher course on what marginal tax rates are, nigga?
 

beenthere

New Member
remind me again how income below $250,000 is subject to an extra 4.3% percent taxation that only kicks in on income above $250,000.

do you need a refresher course on what marginal tax rates are, nigga?
Love that straw man by the way!

You got bitch slapped, deal with it, son.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
You got bitch slapped, deal with it, son.
please explain to me the exact manner in which i was bitch slapped.

did no drama do all his math correctly?

did he account for marginal tax rates, or did he make a mistake there?

thanks for your sincere answers!

regards,

unclebuck.
 
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