Have Cash?..Doctors Will Bargain AND Stuffing..Wet or Dry?

[schuylaar]

I'm here to tell you today that I just received a 10% discount on dental services for offering "cash"..i almost always receive a discount when i ask a small business owner if they have a student discount or cash price..stuffing?..dry, i like mine BONE dry

BARTER WITH YOUR DOCTOR'.... Once in a great while, we get a peek at Republicans' health care ideals, but rarely do we see them articulated as candidly as Sue Lowden described them last week. Lowden is a former state senator and chair of the Nevada Republican Party. She's also, according to nearly every recent poll, the favorite to defeat Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D) in November. Lowden is not, as one might imagine, a supporter of recent improvements to the broken health care system, and she was asked at a candidate forum the kind of policies she'd prefer to see. Among her proposals:

"...I would have suggested, and I think that bartering is really good. Those doctors who you pay cash, you can barter, and that would get prices down in a hurry. And I would say go out, go ahead out and pay cash for whatever your medical needs are, and go ahead and barter with your doctor."

​

Think about how this would work outside the realm of campaign rhetoric, and apply it to real-life. Someone feels ill and makes an appointment to see a doctor. The patient is concerned about her health -- maybe the ailment is serious -- and is feeling sick. The physician evaluates her condition and recommends some medication and tests.

At this point, in Lowden's vision, the ailing patient should turn to the medical professional and say, "Well, you know, that medication will probably cost about $200. Tell you what; how about I give you $130 and we call it even? And those tests you think I need sound kind of expensive. I may have a life-threatening illness, and I'm feeling weak and vulnerable, but I'm also looking for the best possible bargain. What kind of deal can you give me on that CT scan? And do I really need that blood work done?"
I also enjoyed hearing the would-be senator encourage people to "pay cash for whatever your medical needs are." Since Republicans tend to think Americans already have too much health insurance, Lowden's advice fits nicely into the larger GOP worldview.

Remember, Lowden has had plenty of time to craft her message on health care policy, and this is what she's come up with.

It seems hard to imagine voters finding this compelling, but it's an odd year.

Update: Some readers have suggested that I've confused "bartering" with "bargaining." Actually, I think Lowden has them confused. Unless the Republican candidate actually imagines a scenario in which sick people trade unrelated products and services for medical care, she probably was proposing some kind of haggling scenario.

 

[Sand4x105]

Bone dry also, and I never eat my stuffing if it has been cooked inside the turkey....
Gross...

 

[ginjawarrior]

I'm here to tell you today that I just received a 10% discount on dental services for offering "cash"..i almost always receive a discount when i ask a small business owner if they have a student discount or cash price..stuffing?..dry, i like mine BONE dry

BARTER WITH YOUR DOCTOR'.... Once in a great while, we get a peek at Republicans' health care ideals, but rarely do we see them articulated as candidly as Sue Lowden described them last week. Lowden is a former state senator and chair of the Nevada Republican Party. She's also, according to nearly every recent poll, the favorite to defeat Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D) in November. Lowden is not, as one might imagine, a supporter of recent improvements to the broken health care system, and she was asked at a candidate forum the kind of policies she'd prefer to see. Among her proposals:

"...I would have suggested, and I think that bartering is really good. Those doctors who you pay cash, you can barter, and that would get prices down in a hurry. And I would say go out, go ahead out and pay cash for whatever your medical needs are, and go ahead and barter with your doctor."

​

Think about how this would work outside the realm of campaign rhetoric, and apply it to real-life. Someone feels ill and makes an appointment to see a doctor. The patient is concerned about her health -- maybe the ailment is serious -- and is feeling sick. The physician evaluates her condition and recommends some medication and tests.

At this point, in Lowden's vision, the ailing patient should turn to the medical professional and say, "Well, you know, that medication will probably cost about $200. Tell you what; how about I give you $130 and we call it even? And those tests you think I need sound kind of expensive. I may have a life-threatening illness, and I'm feeling weak and vulnerable, but I'm also looking for the best possible bargain. What kind of deal can you give me on that CT scan? And do I really need that blood work done?"
I also enjoyed hearing the would-be senator encourage people to "pay cash for whatever your medical needs are." Since Republicans tend to think Americans already have too much health insurance, Lowden's advice fits nicely into the larger GOP worldview.

Remember, Lowden has had plenty of time to craft her message on health care policy, and this is what she's come up with.

It seems hard to imagine voters finding this compelling, but it's an odd year.

Update: Some readers have suggested that I've confused "bartering" with "bargaining." Actually, I think Lowden has them confused. Unless the Republican candidate actually imagines a scenario in which sick people trade unrelated products and services for medical care, she probably was proposing some kind of haggling scenario.

Lol first thing I thought of while reading this was the "bring a chicken to your doctor" strategy for healthcare

In searching for it I found its the same frigging dumbarse who suggested it
[YouTube]qZezfjWox5s[/YouTube]
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qZezfjWox5s&desktop_uri=/watch?v=qZezfjWox5s

 

[schuylaar]

Lol first thing I thought of while reading this was the "bring a chicken to your doctor" strategy for healthcare

In searching for it I found its the same frigging dumbarse who suggested it
[YouTube]qZezfjWox5s[/YouTube]
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qZezfjWox5s&desktop_uri=/watch?v=qZezfjWox5s

and the stuffing?

 

[MuyLocoNC]

You couldn't pay me to choke down dry stuffing.

Pepperidge Farm stuffing with precooked pork breakfast sausage mixed in, stuffed in the cavity of the turkey to absorb all those delicious juices. Comes out with a fabulous texture and soooo much flavor. If cooked properly, there is no reason to fear tummy problems.

 

[schuylaar]

Bone dry also, and I never eat my stuffing if it has been cooked inside the turkey....
Gross...

actually, i like the part that sticks out of the cavity where it's crispy(that part is long gone before i carve) then eat from the overflow dish which is bone dry and crispy..sausage & mushroom!

 

[spandy]

Update: Some readers have suggested that I've confused "bartering" with "bargaining." Actually, I think Lowden has them confused.

bar·ter verb \ˈbär-tər\

: to exchange things (such as products or services) for other things instead of for money




Simply asking for a better price is just bargaining, like at a yard sale or flea market.

I price discriminate sometimes daily, but it all must be done prior to any work being done, or I wont entertain the idea at all. No one wants to work all day and then have to defend their pay over the counter afterwards. That will piss off retailers and especially tradesmen quickly.

 

[NoDrama]

I'm here to tell you today that I just received a 10% discount on dental services for offering "cash"..i almost always receive a discount when i ask a small business owner if they have a student discount or cash price..stuffing?..dry, i like mine BONE dry

BARTER WITH YOUR DOCTOR'.... Once in a great while, we get a peek at Republicans' health care ideals, but rarely do we see them articulated as candidly as Sue Lowden described them last week. Lowden is a former state senator and chair of the Nevada Republican Party. She's also, according to nearly every recent poll, the favorite to defeat Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D) in November. Lowden is not, as one might imagine, a supporter of recent improvements to the broken health care system, and she was asked at a candidate forum the kind of policies she'd prefer to see. Among her proposals:

"...I would have suggested, and I think that bartering is really good. Those doctors who you pay cash, you can barter, and that would get prices down in a hurry. And I would say go out, go ahead out and pay cash for whatever your medical needs are, and go ahead and barter with your doctor."

​

Think about how this would work outside the realm of campaign rhetoric, and apply it to real-life. Someone feels ill and makes an appointment to see a doctor. The patient is concerned about her health -- maybe the ailment is serious -- and is feeling sick. The physician evaluates her condition and recommends some medication and tests.

At this point, in Lowden's vision, the ailing patient should turn to the medical professional and say, "Well, you know, that medication will probably cost about $200. Tell you what; how about I give you $130 and we call it even? And those tests you think I need sound kind of expensive. I may have a life-threatening illness, and I'm feeling weak and vulnerable, but I'm also looking for the best possible bargain. What kind of deal can you give me on that CT scan? And do I really need that blood work done?"
I also enjoyed hearing the would-be senator encourage people to "pay cash for whatever your medical needs are." Since Republicans tend to think Americans already have too much health insurance, Lowden's advice fits nicely into the larger GOP worldview.

Remember, Lowden has had plenty of time to craft her message on health care policy, and this is what she's come up with.

It seems hard to imagine voters finding this compelling, but it's an odd year.

Update: Some readers have suggested that I've confused "bartering" with "bargaining." Actually, I think Lowden has them confused. Unless the Republican candidate actually imagines a scenario in which sick people trade unrelated products and services for medical care, she probably was proposing some kind of haggling scenario.

Obviously this woman doesn't understand the term barter, or is confusing it with bargaining or haggling. But then again, according to Bucky, all republicans are really just democrats from some other period. That is the most likely explanation.

 

[schuylaar]

bar·ter verb \ˈbär-tər\

: to exchange things (such as products or services) for other things instead of for money




Simply asking for a better price is just bargaining, like at a yard sale or flea market.

I price discriminate sometimes daily, but it all must be done prior to any work being done, or I wont entertain the idea at all. No one wants to work all day and then have to defend their pay over the counter afterwards. That will piss off retailers and especially tradesmen quickly.

unfortunately, i'm going to have to give you a fail on this:

1. because you didn't read the post title: https://www.rollitup.org/politics/755946-have-cash-doctors-will-bargain.html
2. because you didn't answer the question as you were too consumed in showing me how wrong i was
3. happy thanksgiving to someone with whom i extended the olive branch..enjoy your holiday!

 

[schuylaar]

Obviously this women doesn't understand the term barter, or is confusing it with bargaining or haggling. But then again, according to Bucky, all republicans are really just democrats from some other period. That is the most likely explanation.

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[Dr Kynes]

I'm here to tell you today that I just received a 10% discount on dental services for offering "cash"..i almost always receive a discount when i ask a small business owner if they have a student discount or cash price..stuffing?..dry, i like mine BONE dry

BARTER WITH YOUR DOCTOR'.... Once in a great while, we get a peek at Republicans' health care ideals, but rarely do we see them articulated as candidly as Sue Lowden described them last week. Lowden is a former state senator and chair of the Nevada Republican Party. She's also, according to nearly every recent poll, the favorite to defeat Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D) in November. Lowden is not, as one might imagine, a supporter of recent improvements to the broken health care system, and she was asked at a candidate forum the kind of policies she'd prefer to see. Among her proposals:

"...I would have suggested, and I think that bartering is really good. Those doctors who you pay cash, you can barter, and that would get prices down in a hurry. And I would say go out, go ahead out and pay cash for whatever your medical needs are, and go ahead and barter with your doctor."

​

Think about how this would work outside the realm of campaign rhetoric, and apply it to real-life. Someone feels ill and makes an appointment to see a doctor. The patient is concerned about her health -- maybe the ailment is serious -- and is feeling sick. The physician evaluates her condition and recommends some medication and tests.

At this point, in Lowden's vision, the ailing patient should turn to the medical professional and say, "Well, you know, that medication will probably cost about $200. Tell you what; how about I give you $130 and we call it even? And those tests you think I need sound kind of expensive. I may have a life-threatening illness, and I'm feeling weak and vulnerable, but I'm also looking for the best possible bargain. What kind of deal can you give me on that CT scan? And do I really need that blood work done?"
I also enjoyed hearing the would-be senator encourage people to "pay cash for whatever your medical needs are." Since Republicans tend to think Americans already have too much health insurance, Lowden's advice fits nicely into the larger GOP worldview.

Remember, Lowden has had plenty of time to craft her message on health care policy, and this is what she's come up with.

It seems hard to imagine voters finding this compelling, but it's an odd year.

Update: Some readers have suggested that I've confused "bartering" with "bargaining." Actually, I think Lowden has them confused. Unless the Republican candidate actually imagines a scenario in which sick people trade unrelated products and services for medical care, she probably was proposing some kind of haggling scenario.

only 10%? round my way 40% off is the usual cash customer discount, some dental groups offer 60% off for cash, no shit.

further, dentists are NOT like other physicians, you cannot be admitted to a hospital without proof of ability to pay or a life threatening injury.

you must have insurance, medicare or medi-cal, or they will stabilize you and send you to the nearest state/county run facility.

insurance and medicare has ruptured the pricing of medical services, when you place a cap on what you will pay for an aspirin (currently ~$10 per pill) then aspirin will cost $10 every fucking time.

the same holds true for every test, every procedure, and every examination.

whatever is the max medicare will pay becomes the minimum the medical facility will charge.

 

[schuylaar]

only 10%? round my way 40% off is the usual cash customer discount, some dental groups offer 60% off for cash, no shit.

further, dentists are NOT like other physicians, you cannot be admitted to a hospital without proof of ability to pay or a life threatening injury.

you must have insurance, medicare or medi-cal, or they will stabilize you and send you to the nearest state/county run facility.

insurance and medicare has ruptured the pricing of medical services, when you place a cap on what you will pay for an aspirin (currently ~$10 per pill) then aspirin will cost $10 every fucking time.

the same holds true for every test, every procedure, and every examination.

whatever is the max medicare will pay becomes the minimum the medical facility will charge.

what is your stuffing preference?

 

[Dr Kynes]

what is your stuffing preference?

well if you mean Dressing, my preference is for sourdough croutons with herbs, carrots, celery, bell pepper onions and garlic, and smothered with gravy after being cooked separately from my turkey.

i never stuff my turkey except for the Cooking Brick

first i lift the skin off the breast and spread a garlic and herb butter underneath the loosened skin. (makes it delicious and crackley)

while the oven is pre-heating, it is also heating a brick.

before the turkey goes into the oven, the brick goes into the carcass, which greatly reduces cooking time.

the real key is to roast your turkey in a deep pan, elevated on a rack or some other structure so the lower portions dont get stewed and become a sloppy revolting mass of goop.

the butter, gelatin and delicious that comes off the turkey becomes gravy for the service, and the remainder, along with the bones, gets stewed into a stock which becomes a badass soup

 

[schuylaar]

well if you mean Dressing, my preference is for sourdough croutons with herbs, carrots, celery, bell pepper onions and garlic, and smothered with gravy after being cooked separately from my turkey.

i never stuff my turkey except for the Cooking Brick

first i lift the skin off the breast and spread a garlic and herb butter underneath the loosened skin. (makes it delicious and crackley)

while the oven is pre-heating, it is also heating a brick.

before the turkey goes into the oven, the brick goes into the carcass, which greatly reduces cooking time.

the real key is to roast your turkey in a deep pan, elevated on a rack or some other structure so the lower portions dont get stewed and become a sloppy revolting mass of goop.

the butter, gelatin and delicious that comes off the turkey becomes gravy for the service, and the remainder, along with the bones, gets stewed into a stock which becomes a badass soup

so you like your dressing wet or dry?

 

[Dr Kynes]

so you like your dressing wet or dry?

it should be moist, but crispy at the edges and on top, and when Baptized with the Many-Fold Blessings of Gravy, it becomes a glorious Eight-Fold Path of deliciousness: moistness, sweet, savory, carbohydratey, protieny, unctuousness, saltiness and crunch.

Ohh Merciful Gravy, bend down and hear my plea.
Bestow upon your humble servant the strength to resist Packet Sauce, Catsup and Mayonnaise on this, your most Holy Of Days.
Grant us the will to serve you with all our dishes, including the green bean and fried onion casserole which my mother shall certainly prepare
Bless us with your presence on your Sacred Night, and through the next week, for our sammiches and other leftover offerings
We humbly beseech you, in the name of the Turkey, The Dressing and and the Holy Gravyboat.

 

[schuylaar]

it should be moist, but crispy at the edges and on top, and when Baptized with the Many-Fold Blessings of Gravy, it becomes a glorious Eight-Fold Path of deliciousness: moistness, sweet, savory, carbohydratey, protieny, unctuousness, saltiness and crunch.

Ohh Merciful Gravy, bend down and hear my plea.
Bestow upon your humble servant the strength to resist Packet Sauce, Catsup and Mayonnaise on this, your most Holy Of Days.
Grant us the will to serve you with all our dishes, including the green bean and fried onion casserole which my mother shall certainly prepare
Bless us with your presence on your Sacred Night, and through the next week, for our sammiches and other leftover offerings
We humbly beseech you, in the name of the Turkey, The Dressing and and the Holy Gravyboat.

standing ovation!

 

[ginwilly]

boy that article is old. Didn't batshit insane Sharon Angle win the primary to run against Reid?

Stuffing dry w/ gravy.

 

[schuylaar]

boy that article is old. Didn't batshit insane Sharon Angle win the primary to run against Reid?

Stuffing dry w/ gravy.

yes, i just wanted to remind you guys about what republicans had mentioned awhile and even though this works well..i'm not sure if the irs would be keen on it..you gotta know it goes right in their pocket..untraceable, cold hard, untaxed CA$H..

you like your stuffing like me!

 

[schuylaar]

well if you mean Dressing, my preference is for sourdough croutons with herbs, carrots, celery, bell pepper onions and garlic, and smothered with gravy after being cooked separately from my turkey.

i never stuff my turkey except for the Cooking Brick

first i lift the skin off the breast and spread a garlic and herb butter underneath the loosened skin. (makes it delicious and crackley)

while the oven is pre-heating, it is also heating a brick.

before the turkey goes into the oven, the brick goes into the carcass, which greatly reduces cooking time.

the real key is to roast your turkey in a deep pan, elevated on a rack or some other structure so the lower portions dont get stewed and become a sloppy revolting mass of goop.

the butter, gelatin and delicious that comes off the turkey becomes gravy for the service, and the remainder, along with the bones, gets stewed into a stock which becomes a badass soup

yeah brick is an aweome idea..have you seen the commercial for those turbo-roaster things..it looks like pint mason jar with a tube attached..you fill with water and insert tube into cavity and voila! a 30-pounder is done in 2 hours..

 

[Dr Kynes]

yeah brick is an aweome idea..have you seen the commercial for those turbo-roaster things..it looks like pint mason jar with a tube attached..you fill with water and insert tube into cavity and voila! a 30-pounder is done in 2 hours..

bricks are cheap, and i dont gotta drop 3 easy payments for one.

to be perfectly honest i dont use a brick anymore. i used a large smooth river rock, which goes in and out of the turkey's backside more smoothly, and doesnt have any corners to catch