Everclear 190 saturation capacity levels

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BigBudsBunny

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I have read things can be T H C saturated like in budder where an overkill of material will just be waste because the budder fats can only hold so much. Was wondering if that is the same for like everclear 190 alcohol - could it be oversaturated or will it continue to just get more concentrated (within reason of course -

For example: could 8 oz of "in the freezer" everclear be mixed with 30 g of sugar leaves; let sit for 60 days in the freezer; remove/strain/squeeze plant material from liquid

then repeat with strained liquid and another round of leaves (sit 60 days)

then repeat once more (sit 60 days).

or how much bud could 8 oz of everclear 190 take before it becomes wasteful to throw bud at it?

anybody?
 
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brimck325

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you can do it but you will be leaving more n more oil in the vegetative matter, as it will be more concentrated.
 
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BigBudsBunny

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So I'm guessing what you really are saying (with out saying it - lol) is - do it once then let it evaporate down to concentrate it.

thanks
 
Fadedawg

Fadedawg

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BigBudsBunny said:
I have read things can be T H C saturated like in budder where an overkill of material will just be waste because the budder fats can only hold so much. Was wondering if that is the same for like everclear 190 alcohol - could it be oversaturated or will it continue to just get more concentrated (within reason of course -

For example: could 8 oz of "in the freezer" everclear be mixed with 30 g of sugar leaves; let sit for 60 days in the freezer; remove/strain/squeeze plant material from liquid

then repeat with strained liquid and another round of leaves (sit 60 days)

then repeat once more (sit 60 days).

or how much bud could 8 oz of everclear 190 take before it becomes wasteful to throw bud at it?

anybody?
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Letting plant matter sit in a polar solvent will saturate it with chlorophyll.

Here is a 3 minute soak, and a 10 minute soak of the same material frozen.
3 minute frozen extract-2.jpg10 minute frozen extraction-1-2.jpg
 
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CaretakerDad

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BigBudsBunny said:
wow - that's a big difference
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As someone familiar with chemistry I have 2 questions about this out of the freezer/quick rinse technique for oil making.

First is why a cold extraction? Heat is a very helpful thing in a chemical reaction which is what you are doing by adding any solvent to you cannabis. I actually use a laboratory grade hotplate, a 10 gallon stainless steel pot, a water chiller, and a device made to fit the top of the pot that circulates cold water. I boil the alcohol/cannabis mixture for 24 hours in this setup which creates a constant solvent bath as the solvent boils then condenses inside the pot. This separates all of the chemicals from the organic matter (chlorophyll included). It is a mixture of THC,CBD, and CBN in synergy that gives the oil it's healing properties not just what can be removed by a quick wash.

Second is the assumption that the golden brown mixture is more effective than the green based on aesthetics. Have you had your oil lab tested in comparison with oil made other ways?

BTW I have not tested the results of my method either and I don't know the answer, I am just a little leery of making a comparison based on how it looks without any hard data. Not knocking your method as it may be more effective, just a guy with questions
 
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Fadedawg

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CaretakerDad said:
As someone familiar with chemistry I have 2 questions about this out of the freezer/quick rinse technique for oil making.

First is why a cold extraction? Heat is a very helpful thing in a chemical reaction which is what you are doing by adding any solvent to you cannabis. I actually use a laboratory grade hotplate, a 10 gallon stainless steel pot, a water chiller, and a device made to fit the top of the pot that circulates cold water. I boil the alcohol/cannabis mixture for 24 hours in this setup which creates a constant solvent bath as the solvent boils then condenses inside the pot. This separates all of the chemicals from the organic matter (chlorophyll included). It is a mixture of THC,CBD, and CBN in synergy that gives the oil it's healing properties not just what can be removed by a quick wash.

Second is the assumption that the golden brown mixture is more effective than the green based on aesthetics. Have you had your oil lab tested in comparison with oil made other ways?

BTW I have not tested the results of my method either and I don't know the answer, I am just a little leery of making a comparison based on how it looks without any hard data. Not knocking your method as it may be more effective, just a guy with questions
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The cold extraction is to freeze the water and lock the chlorophyll and water solubles in place, so that they are not extracted along with the resin on the surface.

The golden color is only indicative of what is in it, and in this case all of the terpenes, including diterpenes that we are harvesting for their medicinal qualities.

What is not in it, is excessive water even frozen (note the cloudy appearance) and chlorophyll, the green.

I started out reflux boiling in ethanol, but soon learned that many patients gastro intestinal systems rebel at concentrated chlorophyll, giving them diarrhea, cramps, and vomiting. The process doesn't produce light green, it produces black green extracts, because chlorophyll is readily soluble in polar solvents.


We GC test our own oil and can tell you for a fact that QWET has a higher percent of Cannabinoids and other terpenes than reflux boiled material, because it is not as diluted with other stuff.
 
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Merlot420

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Fadedawg said:
The cold extraction is to freeze the water and lock the chlorophyll and water solubles in place, so that they are not extracted along with the resin on the surface.

The golden color is only indicative of what is in it, and in this case all of the terpenes, including diterpenes that we are harvesting for their medicinal qualities.

What is not in it, is excessive water even frozen (note the cloudy appearance) and chlorophyll, the green.

I started out reflux boiling in ethanol, but soon learned that many patients gastro intestinal systems rebel at concentrated chlorophyll, giving them diarrhea, cramps, and vomiting. The process doesn't produce light green, it produces black green extracts, because chlorophyll is readily soluble in polar solvents.


We GC test our own oil and can tell you for a fact that QWET has a higher percent of Cannabinoids and other terpenes than reflux boiled material, because it is not as diluted with other stuff.
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Hi there! Sorry to sound naive, but what does QWET stand for please? I'd love to know your recipe/ process if you were willing to enlighten me! Thanks for your time!
 
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