The Minimum Income Allocation..Income Base For Just "Being"..

[Dr Kynes]

that's all fine and dandy, but that is my point exactly.

did any other president even get a chance to "claim it as their own"? was anyone else ever clamoring about the extra $0.12 at the end of their phone bill and tying it at the waist to stereotypes of "welfare queens"? was anyone saying anything at all, racialized or not?

NOPE!

only once it could be racialized did people latch onto it so viciously, like a small yapping dog grabbing the ankle of an innocent passer by.

and you are up front leading the charge.

do you do it purposely, or do you get duped into these race baiting tactics?

pato says it best.

[video=youtube;42zRVDTLKyY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42zRVDTLKyY[/video]

 

[althor]

Well i can relate to this topic in a way...

My family consists of father 52, mother 50, brother 29, sister 27, myself 24, sister 21...

My entire family was / is on welfare and eating off goverment and living off ssi from my father(severe epileptic). Been that waysince i knew what the goverment is. So my whole life ive been around this 'poverty' if you will. When i was 14 i started my first job as a busboy making 15$ a night in tips and 5$hour since i didnt belong working legally yet. Then i went from resturant to resturant making more and more. When i turned 16 i bought myself a 2k$ car with money i saved up and ended up blowing the motor on it. Did some research online and pulled the engine out and put junkyard one in myself. From there i did more and more work on random cars and rented a garage and put ads on craigslist. I easily made 1500 a week cash until my girfriend ended up pregnant 2 yrs ago. I sold everything and got a normal job which i work now at $17 hr with paid medical for the first time since 18yrs old(hopefully not cancelled when o-care starts). This medical marijuana card allows me to grow on side and give patients free meds and give excess to dispensary for extra money...

I am not rich at all but im young still and with this thing called AMBITION, i will go to school when the baby starts pre-school. My schooling will be paid for with money saved thanks to mmj and my job will pay for my house and food for family.

Still to this day since i have moved out of my parents i get a call several times a month to help my mom pay her mortgage and bills. It kills me to say no but i now have a family of my own and bills that HAVE to be paid for my family to live...

The problem with today is the goverment makes it so easy to get free everything and when you actually need something like state medical for your child but you dont qualify cause make to much but in real life it pays food and bills only. They tell you if your not working we can provide food,medical and heating/cash assistance. So you have choice to work ass off and bearly make it by and miss out on medical or to not work an get handed a minimum lived life free of charge.

Sorry for the rant but its studies like this that are most likely made up to push people into living off goverment, which i swear the goverment wants ultimately... people need to wake up and stop being LAZY. Alittle ambition and wanting more than to sit home on video games all day will go a very very long way... every person in my family still lives under one roof and will tell you flat out that they have no shot at life because they were raised on goverment aid and bad parenting. THEY'RE UNDER 30yrs old. Its called being LAZY and being handed every escuse under the sun from the gov. To continue this way.

I didnt pay crazy attn in school but i ended up watching discovery channel episodes on the industrial revolution. IMO, its crazy to think of how not too long ago people made nothing into such a huge society. If you put everyone in my generation and newer into those days we would still have no electronics or skyscrapers for buildings because how lazy most people are and lack the will to strive for anything more in life.

I have said it for years and years and years. The system helps the WRONG people.
People who have gone out and been a productive member of society are the people who get denied relentlessly when they need help.
The people who have been molded to be welfare recipients are handed everything they could possibly need to live. Their "side" money is just that.
We work our asses off to pay the bills and have nothing extra and things go bad, tough shit...

One of the things that really set me off was some welfare bitch I know talking about paying someone to come cut her yard.... WTF??! I work every fucking day and I can't afford someone to come cut my grass, you lay around the house drinking and eating pills all day long watching soaps and have someone cutting your yard for you!

 

[heckler73]

One of the things that really set me off was some welfare bitch I know talking about paying someone to come cut her yard.... WTF??! I work every fucking day and I can't afford someone to come cut my grass, you lay around the house drinking and eating pills all day long watching soaps and have someone cutting your yard for you!

So you lament the fact that someone is creating jobs?
Or is it that you are upset because you are unable to manage your finances responsibly?

I suppose one could equally complain that irresponsible people such as yourself have jobs.

I imagine your response would be, "you don't know what I...".
And neither do you know what they...
Hence, a Minimum Income would end these ridiculous, emotional arguments since everyone would have an equal base from which to stand.

 

[Harrekin]

I saw that the other day. Switzerland just recently put forward the idea of a "minimum income" of $2800 a month or there abouts. And people wonder why the nordic countries have the best healthcare outcomes, the happiest populations, live longer, and have been relatively far less affected by the recession compared to us.

Yeah, see how much tax they pay on EVERYTHING.

Also, Switzerland isn't a Nordic country, you tard.

 

[ambedexteras]

i read about this story. i forget which state. a 26 yr old single male had 9 kids with 6 different moms.
and was recieving $1500 a month per child..... thats $13,500 x 12 is 162,000/yr. lol how the fuck is that right?
becomes a goddamn entrepenuer planting his semen and growing them lol shit aint right.

i 100% believe in welfare, food stamps , unemployment, and all that shit for their actual purpose, supporting people usually a family when theyre down or in need of help. but if you make it so someone can profit off it? the're always people who are gonna abuse it.

 

[beenthere]

So you lament the fact that someone is creating jobs?
Or is it that you are upset because you are unable to manage your finances responsibly?

I suppose one could equally complain that irresponsible people such as yourself have jobs.

I imagine your response would be, "you don't know what I...".
And neither do you know what they...
Hence, a Minimum Income would end these ridiculous, emotional arguments since everyone would have an equal base from which to stand.

This cracks me up, you dolts pick a side and futilely try to defend it no matter how stupid it sounds.

 

[heckler73]

This cracks me up, you dolts pick a side and futilely try to defend it no matter how stupid it sounds.

Glad to be of service in bringing a little piece of heaven to you.
Now, get back to your wood-ticks before they decide to usurp your control of the business due to your apathy and lack of wit.

 

[Harrekin]

Glad to be of service in bringing a little piece of heaven to you.
Now, get back to your wood-ticks before they decide to usurp your control of the business due to your apathy and lack of wit.

You think people who actually work should pay people "just to be alive"...?

And someone of your (clearly retarded) thought processes is actually trying to insult someone else's intelligence?

Fuck me...

 

[NoDrama]

that's all fine and dandy, but that is my point exactly.

did any other president even get a chance to "claim it as their own"? was anyone else ever clamoring about the extra $0.12 at the end of their phone bill and tying it at the waist to stereotypes of "welfare queens"? was anyone saying anything at all, racialized or not?

NOPE!

only once it could be racialized did people latch onto it so viciously, like a small yapping dog grabbing the ankle of an innocent passer by.

and you are up front leading the charge.

do you do it purposely, or do you get duped into these race baiting tactics?

Well Buck, I think the reason it got racialized is due to the people who were filmed making comments about the programs.
[video=youtube;tpAOwJvTOio]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio[/video]

 

[Red1966]

I saw that the other day. Switzerland just recently put forward the idea of a "minimum income" of $2800 a month or there abouts. And people wonder why the nordic countries have the best healthcare outcomes, the happiest populations, live longer, and have been relatively far less affected by the recession compared to us.

Let me get this straight. You're saying a "idea" that has not been acted on is the cause for the absolute utopia that Switzerland is? Are you retarded?

 

[Red1966]

i think i understood it to be that we are experimenting with this somehow..right now..wonder how i can get in on the trials

schuylaar, first in line with her hand out.

 

[schuylaar]

schuylaar, first in line with her hand out.

yeah red, i never worked, never paid taxes..happy thanksgiving, i hope your going to have a good time with your family and a table bountiful with food

 

[UncleBuck]

yeah red, i never worked, never paid taxes..happy thanksgiving, i hope your going to have a good time with your family and a table bountiful with food

i as well would like to wish red and his entire family a very happy thanksgiving!

may they all gather 'round the table and spread love, cheer, and happiness.

 

[schuylaar]

i as well would like to wish red and his entire family a very happy thanksgiving!

may they all gather 'round the table and spread love, cheer, and happiness.

what is the story behind red's family?

 

[UncleBuck]

what is the story behind red's family?

i don't know what the story behind them is, but i do know the story on top of them.

it's called 6 feet of earth.

 

[cannabineer]

oh just no.

 

[see4]

i don't know what the story behind them is, but i do know the story on top of them.

it's called 6 feet of earth.

If that is true. Well, that's just not very nice. And I think you need to spend some time looking at it. I mean would you just look at it?

 

[UncleBuck]

If that is true. Well, that's just not very nice. And I think you need to spend some time looking at it. I mean would you just look at it?

i agree, it is not very nice at all. but it feels so right, and red has done so much to deserve it.

 

[schuylaar]

i don't know what the story behind them is, but i do know the story on top of them.

it's called 6 feet of earth.

well i was just doing a quick compare/contrast..some of us have no family to be with but are thankful for the hot food they can buy at whole foods..the state has approved continuation of and is processing my SNAP as a full-time student am eligible for.

 

[schuylaar]

i agree, it is not very nice at all. but it feels so right, and red has done so much to deserve it.

starting with:

schuylaar, first in line with her hand out.