Bay area clones

facestabber

facestabber

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FAKE OG.jpg This is From DHN's twitter page. They're claiming this is their SFV OG. Seriously? Has anyone at DHN ever seen an og kush plant? They might as well just put up a picture of a pineapple and say that's SFV OG too. DHN, Ain't nobody got time for that.

Here are the DHN strains I've tried and what I Know about them...

"SFV OG"- Fake. Cali conn gear. Prone to "dudding syndrome", most likely due to broad mite toxins. It seems that DHN may have had a bout with broad mites at some point but got them under control. Unfortunately, the toxins will linger in their mother plants and effect a large percentage of their clones. The lucky few that grow normally are a decent representation of OG but lack the deep rotten lemon pinesol smell that an og has to have to be worthy of the og name.

"Romulan Grapefruit" AKA "bammer"
- Very vigorous in veg, prolific branching, very easy to root, low quality finished flowers, low yield. A DHN employee once confided to me that they only kept it around because it's so easy to grow and clone. A real cash cropper for an unscrupulous clone vendor. Decorate this turd with lights and ornaments, makes a wonderful Christmas tree.

"Chem4"- HUGE yield of mediocre buds. Smells like the clone only but for some reason the smell is very faint with this one. This is the best strain of theirs I've tried but I wouldn't run it again. Lacks the potency and flavor I'm accustomed to.

"Alien OG"- Absolutely beautiful plants, very easy to grow, amazing visual bag appeal, won't get you high and smells like hay. Some say it's all show and no go. There are some great phenos of alien og around but the DHN one is not one of them.

"Fire OG"- Fake. Haven't grown this one but it's also a cali conn creation, not Raskal's clone only Fire cut that everyone wants.
 
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slamsomethc

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Damn this is all quite disappointing as quite a portion of clones I picked up this week were DHN. Guess I'll see if it was worth the buck, maybe cut and flower from the clones to test em out before I spend the time vegging everything.

Anyone down to get together and make a trip to Canada for some REAL seeds and starting a legit operation to clear out all these bullshitters poisoning so many growers? :weed:
 
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adower

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facestabber said:
View attachment 2903197 This is From DHN's twitter page. They're claiming this is their SFV OG. Seriously? Has anyone at DHN ever seen an og kush plant? They might as well just put up a picture of a pineapple and say that's SFV OG too. DHN, Ain't nobody got time for that.

Here are the DHN strains I've tried and what I Know about them...

"SFV OG"- Fake. Cali conn gear. Prone to "dudding syndrome", most likely due to broad mite toxins. It seems that DHN may have had a bout with broad mites at some point but got them under control. Unfortunately, the toxins will linger in their mother plants and effect a large percentage of their clones. The lucky few that grow normally are a decent representation of OG but lack the deep rotten lemon pinesol smell that an og has to have to be worthy of the og name.

"Romulan Grapefruit" AKA "bammer"
- Very vigorous in veg, prolific branching, very easy to root, low quality finished flowers, low yield. A DHN employee once confided to me that they only kept it around because it's so easy to grow and clone. A real cash cropper for an unscrupulous clone vendor. Decorate this turd with lights and ornaments, makes a wonderful Christmas tree.

"Chem4"- HUGE yield of mediocre buds. Smells like the clone only but for some reason the smell is very faint with this one. This is the best strain of theirs I've tried but I wouldn't run it again. Lacks the potency and flavor I'm accustomed to.

"Alien OG"- Absolutely beautiful plants, very easy to grow, amazing visual bag appeal, won't get you high and smells like hay. Some say it's all show and no go. There are some great phenos of alien og around but the DHN one is not one of them.

"Fire OG"- Fake. Haven't grown this one but it's also a cali conn creation, not Raskal's clone only Fire cut that everyone wants.
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Any input on their sour diesel?
 
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razzmatazz82

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facestabber said:
I'm just guessing it's fake because he bought it from harborside AND it was recommended by one of the clowns that works there. Last time I bought clones recommended by the staff they were fake. The employee said " you should give this chem91 a shot bro, my friend makes these cuts and they are the real chem 91!"........

Ended up being some ultra low yielding fruity smelling regs......Fool me once shame on me, fool me twice.....uh.....we won't be fooled again!
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Well he didn't really recommend it. I asked about the SC and he said it was the kushman cut. You're other post about the various strains obtained there interest me. I'm running chem 4 as well and it looks great, great yield but the first thing I notice is the almost non existent smell. It's there but faint, much less than what you'd expect looking at it in a jar.
 
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chuewy

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chuewy said:
So what you're saying is that there is absolutely no way that DHN clones could have contracted pm from other clones selling at harborside? Did you get the fresh batch (when the clones arrives) or did those clones came in beforehand?

As for the clone only remark, I'm not sure what more they can do. They're using the same exact name from the seed pack they used to pop those beans. If you consider that misleading, how do you feel about trainwreck, northern light, blueberry clones?

The "stunted" problem usually comes down to skill. But those could very will be mislabel cuts or even dhn cuts, but who knows? Mutants anyone? Personally, I never tried the entire DHN line; but from my own experience, the clones I've tried are exactly what it suppose to be. So I have no qualms about those cuts, and I'm perfectly fine with them when I need them.
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Either I'm extremely lucky, or that I took better precautionary treatment/isolation. I have not run into any pm or mite toxin you're speaking of and I grab these cuts a couple weeks ago.

facestabber said:
Let me also address the "clone only" subject at hand. If DHN wants to find their own phenos from seed packs that is just fine and I'm sure they even find some nice plants that way.
The problem is when they LABEL their clones with the names of clone only's. For example, their SFV and FIRE are both sourced from Cali Connections Seeds. Swerve used "afghani pollen in his initial cross to create his SFVBX males that he uses as the studs for his seeds.The resulting offspring are not pure OG and certainly not SFV or FIRE. Furthermore, cali conns fire cross is labeled "Raskal's OG". It was DHN who decided to mislabel it as Fire OG.

Loompasfarms website explains it very clearly so I'll copy and paste for you.

"Notice how everyone has Sour Diesel these days? Breeders in today’s world got a hold of the original Clone-only plant. The breeders either forced her to go hermaphrodite and self pollinate or used another species male to pollinate her. From these beginnings came all the Sour Diesel seeds that are sold. The resulting offspring are a combination of two strains, the definition of a hybrid.


When utilizing the self-pollinating technique, called "selfing", the mother is the father. Since Sour Diesel is the result of an unintended pollination from a different strain, it’s already a hybrid and the resulting offspring will be hybrids.


If a breeder takes these seeds and starts "line-breeding" them, after a few generations of breeding, you can make a true-breeding strain. Then it’s no longer a hybrid.

So, now someone has made a strain called Sour Diesel. The question here is whether the resulting progeny resemble the authentic clone-only Sour Diesel. Depending on the goals of the breeder, there may be many similarities but they ARE NOT the same strain. The particular strain created will NEVER be the Sour Diesel Mother plant. That’s why elite clone-only plants are so highly prized. The only real Sour Diesel must be cloned to preserve its genetics. If a grower or shop doesn’t disclose the product that you're smoking is the clone-only cut, then it probably is not. "
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If you put it that way, how do you feel about the whole cookies agenda? Majority of the cuts are close enough to the original cookie strain, but no1 seems to care because its close enough. I personally don't care or will I ever.

facestabber said:
View attachment 2903197 This is From DHN's twitter page. They're claiming this is their SFV OG. Seriously? Has anyone at DHN ever seen an og kush plant? They might as well just put up a picture of a pineapple and say that's SFV OG too. DHN, Ain't nobody got time for that.

Here are the DHN strains I've tried and what I Know about them...

"SFV OG"- Fake. Cali conn gear. Prone to "dudding syndrome", most likely due to broad mite toxins. It seems that DHN may have had a bout with broad mites at some point but got them under control. Unfortunately, the toxins will linger in their mother plants and effect a large percentage of their clones. The lucky few that grow normally are a decent representation of OG but lack the deep rotten lemon pinesol smell that an og has to have to be worthy of the og name.

"Romulan Grapefruit" AKA "bammer"
- Very vigorous in veg, prolific branching, very easy to root, low quality finished flowers, low yield. A DHN employee once confided to me that they only kept it around because it's so easy to grow and clone. A real cash cropper for an unscrupulous clone vendor. Decorate this turd with lights and ornaments, makes a wonderful Christmas tree.

"Chem4"- HUGE yield of mediocre buds. Smells like the clone only but for some reason the smell is very faint with this one. This is the best strain of theirs I've tried but I wouldn't run it again. Lacks the potency and flavor I'm accustomed to.

"Alien OG"- Absolutely beautiful plants, very easy to grow, amazing visual bag appeal, won't get you high and smells like hay. Some say it's all show and no go. There are some great phenos of alien og around but the DHN one is not one of them.

"Fire OG"- Fake. Haven't grown this one but it's also a cali conn creation, not Raskal's clone only Fire cut that everyone wants.
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I have not ran the SFV cut, maybe that is an outdoor pic?

As for the other strains, I can't comment on any of those aside from chem 4. As per my previous post, your assessment of the chem 4 is identical to mine.

Would I run DHN strains again? Sure, when I need them.
 
facestabber

facestabber

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chuewy said:
Either I'm extremely lucky, or that I took better precautionary treatment/isolation. I have not run into any pm or mite toxin you're speaking of and I grab these cuts a couple weeks ago.



If you put it that way, how do you feel about the whole cookies agenda? Majority of the cuts are close enough to the original cookie strain, but no1 seems to care because its close enough. I personally don't care or will I ever.



I have not ran the SFV cut, maybe that is an outdoor pic?

As for the other strains, I can't comment on any of those aside from chem 4. As per my previous post, your assessment of the chem 4 is identical to mine.

Would I run DHN strains again? Sure, when I need them.
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Chuey, with all due respect I didn't come here to debate, I came to share my experiences with DHN clones. The title of the thread is Bay Area clones so I think I'm in the right place.

If you have had any positive experiences with DHN please share them with us, I promise I won't attempt to discredit your assessments. Personally, I'm finished dealing with Dark Heart Nursery and Harborside Wealth Center. If you're brave enough to run any of the cuts I've reviewed, just don't say you weren't warned.

BTW, I wish you the best of luck with your DHN clones. Which did you get?
 
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chuewy

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facestabber said:
Chuey, with all due respect I didn't come here to debate, I came to share my experiences with DHN clones. The title of the thread is Bay Area clones so I think I'm in the right place.

If you have had any positive experiences with DHN please share them with us, I promise I won't attempt to discredit your assessments. Personally, I'm finished dealing with Dark Heart Nursery and Harborside Wealth Center. If you're brave enough to run any of the cuts I've reviewed, just don't say you weren't warned.

BTW, I wish you the best of luck with your DHN clones. Which did you get?
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Likewise, I'm just sharing my experience with them. I personally don't care either way, its just that my last batch xj-13 is keeping me too motivated to keep this conversation going lol.

big ups for keeping it civil bud :)
 
facestabber

facestabber

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chuewy said:
Likewise, I'm just sharing my experience with them. I personally don't care either way, its just that my last batch xj-13 is keeping me too motivated to keep this conversation going lol.

big ups for keeping it civil bud :)
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I'm all for some good, productive conversation. Tell us about your xj-13, is it the one blue sky use to sell?
 
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madscientist 22

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Scm cookies and p2p candy land are top shelf meds when grown properly. Harbor was selling scm cuts a couple weeks ago at and outrageous $20 a clone smh.
 
Soupsah

Soupsah

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madscientist 22 said:
Scm cookies and p2p candy land are top shelf meds when grown properly. Harbor was selling scm cuts a couple weeks ago at and outrageous $20 a clone smh.
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Do you have pics of the candyland in veg. I got some candyland too and wanted to compare with your p2p candyland
 
Soupsah

Soupsah

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Nice I veg longer then I wanted. CL looks to be a perfect sog plant as it grows straight up and not out.

Edit. just saw pics of your finish CL and it looks pretty caked up.
 
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razzmatazz82

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Ya that was my first run. You're right it's a more vertical grower. Buds aren't really big, just smaller super dense popcorn nugs everywhere. Very pretty finished product, cool colors and great resin production.
 
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