abandonconflict
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We don't all have printing presses. Resources are finite. Only labor creates wealth. Capitalism is wealth redistribution upward. You keep repeating this line about envy. Robin Hood didn't steal because of envy.
The Rothchild's allegedly own HALF of the worlds wealth or 500 TRILLION dollars!
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NLXSK1
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Resources are not finite unless you use up everything in the galaxy.
Printing money does not create wealth.
If you take $50,000 and build a house and sell it for $100,000 you just created wealth through your labor. Bill Gates created wealth through his labor.
Robin Hood didnt steal, he just redistributed wealth that was already stolen.
Doer
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I don't take sides in Politics and I have Computer Science research job....what are you? I am farther left than you can imagine, but I know we are lied to, only.
So, being a Che-ist, I enjoy the struggle from the 50 yard line, but I have fought these DEMS in the street, participated in police riots, etc.
I cheer when the DEMS get pissed off and I think the PUBS have never mattered in this.
It is the struggle for freedom against these Royalist DEMS. America Fuck Yeah!
You are a typical spew boy, like Martin Bashir, who has to stoop to garbage slinging, instead of thought, seems to me.
And then the personal insults....but, you will say I started it.. But, you acting all Haughty without content, is running scared to me. So I hit a nerve. Good one...for me.
FAIL for you. By the very word choice you seem like a bully punk...like all Dems. And there has been blood on my hands.
But, you are in your little hate spew world of over confidence and have taken no action beyond cowardly, forum scorn.
What will you do if your team loses the Senate in '14? I know, you will blame the dirty tricks of the PUBS, as usual.
And if they Impeach this guy because of all this corruption, what will you do? Oh I know it will never happen...you hope. You will call for armed revolt, but it is all legal to remove a President.
And it has and does, happen, all the time...change, I mean. You will really be bummed out with what has happened in the Senate. But, you will blame PUBS, on your orders from the media. Yes, the filibuster rule was changed by the majority to silence the minority. But, you don't know why, I bet, the DEMS had to change it.
If the DC courts do not not get packed with favorable judges, people will go to jail and it will be too late to pardon them.
But, it works both ways in this game... that is why I love the view in the middle.
If the filibuster can't stop it, MY President could be removed. There is a Little ole lack of trust going on, since the DEMS showed this nasty side and Royalist intentions, expressed lately by MY President last night.
Oh, I know, but, you are crazy too.
abandonconflict
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Oh right. Instead of being jealous of rich people, poor folks should go to some other planet with unclaimed resources and get rich too.
GOD HERE
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You're so backwards, but the best thing is, you're the only one who doesn't understand how idiotic and contradictory everything that comes out your mouth is.
NorthofEngland
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1 - Martin Bashir is an irrelevance who lost all journalistic respect after his half assed attempt to do a hatchet job on Michael Jackson.
Like Piers Morgan before him he scuttled off to America - where, it seems, opinions are so polarised and entrenched that lying is OK - so long as the lies hurt the left and help the right (Fox) or vise versa (MSNBC).
2 - "I;ve had blood on my hands....youre in a hate spewed circle of overconfidence...."
WTF? The rantings of a self deluded internet hero and real life shut in???
Nonsense and contradiction seems to be the only identifiable substance to your comments, after removing the hyperbolic propaganda.
You're probably the exact type of person that Rep's were aiming at when they put Sarah on the ticket in '08.
3 - Like Bill Reilly you're one of those right wing Democrat despisers who constantly denies being a Republican.
But if it sounds like a duck, walks like a duck and swims like a duck - IT'S A DUCK
Even if it is too chicken shit to admit it.
4 - Computer Science Job....So what?
The smartest person I know earns shit, drives a rust bucket and lives in squalor.
But he's about forty thousand times smarter than Mitt Romney - who hasn't yet figured out that, when you've put away 500 million dollars (or whatever) you have enough saved to stop exploiting your fellow human beings.
You're a typical anti-education Republican.
Just enough intelligence to justify your views under the guise of paper thin ideology BUT not smart enough to realise that everyone can sense the hatred and resentment that fuels your opinions.
Like all of your kind you equate success and intelligence with money and the hoarding of money.
5 - You actually tried t argue that Sarah Palin has the left worried....?
Sarah Palin was the best thing to happen to the left in 30 years!
If Soviet Communism was still active she would've been awarded the Order of Lenin.
Sarah Palins empty headed statements, most of which came at the end of 8 years of Bushism's ("The French have no word for entrepreneur" etc) were the final nail in the coffin of an International Respect for the Republicans.
Her flag waving, patriotism and pride in the history of America are exposed as fake by her own words when she exposes her own lack of knowledge about America or it's revolutionary history.
She appeals to a certain class of people because they identify with her.
"She's dumb as dog shit and look how well she's doing - that could be me!"
But Political High Office should never be about someone getting elected on their ordinariness - JFK was special, Clinton was special, Bush needed special ed and Sarah Palin is THE politician for the reality TV generation - where being exceptionally average is now a possibility.
The dumbest person in the room is always a right wing voter.
Doer
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See, scratch one of the new left weirdo and find the same stinky mullet. JFK was a jerk and almost got us all killed, almost got us nuked.
And I bet you don't even know how badly Khrushchev screwed that young Mac to the wall over Cuba, do you? Do you know the deal, that pulled the Soviets missiles out? Nothing secret about it, just suppressed for the Ra Ra crowd. It was not Kennedy stared him down.
It is the same reason the Red Bear put the missiles there in the first. It was about Lt. Senator Kennedy's first fuck up, of office. You don't know, do you? You don't know what the CMC was about, do you?
You still think I'm right wing?...here ya go. I hate DEMs only slightly more than PUBS. Spew spout on..parrot. Viva Che.
BTW, I predicted you would respond this way. You said go to night school, for your haughty sneer, I said, I am finely employed, thank you very much
You said, so what?, like you are retarded or something.
And I bet you don't even know how badly Khrushchev screwed that young Mac to the wall over Cuba, do you? Do you know the deal, that pulled the Soviets missiles out? Nothing secret about it, just suppressed for the Ra Ra crowd. It was not Kennedy stared him down.
It is the same reason the Red Bear put the missiles there in the first. It was about Lt. Senator Kennedy's first fuck up, of office. You don't know, do you? You don't know what the CMC was about, do you?
You still think I'm right wing?...here ya go. I hate DEMs only slightly more than PUBS. Spew spout on..parrot. Viva Che.
BTW, I predicted you would respond this way. You said go to night school, for your haughty sneer, I said, I am finely employed, thank you very much
You said, so what?, like you are retarded or something.
Doer
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I've got you all turned around if you can't follow plain English. It is working. Stay down. Stay confused, your taunts are meaningless, Earthling.
Doer
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Yes, someone might object to our predatory conduct. It might interfere with theirs.
Rob Roy
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hey pass me some of that shit...almost out of the White Siberian, sounds like yours is better.
NorthofEngland
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So all the recognised authorities on the CMC are wrong or conspiring to deceive...?
But you're privy to secret information?
Khruschev was ousted over the CMC - HE FUCKING LOST THE GAME!
If you're vague statements refer to the removal of American missiles in Turkey then JFK did the minimum to prevent WW3 - Nuclear Annihilation.
In fact tell me what you know (or think you know) about the REAL CMC.
Did some guy in the bathroom at a party tell you the truth.
Just after the second line of coke and the story about Presidential complicity in 9/11....?
It's the Oliver Stone way of doing things where suspension of disbelief and hall of mirrors distortions are used to manipulate viewers away from the glaring inconsistencies inherent in the opinion.
AS for me being 'all turned around' You must have spun me so far and so fast that I never even noticed because I am certainly still facing in the same direction.
In my opinion you couldn't turn around an anorexic in a dancehall - Not with the absolute lack of rational in your arguments.
Unless, of course, someone counts adolescent petulance as rational.
Then you'll become their guru or even their fuhrer.
To me you have half the knowledge and twice the opinions....
A very dangerous way to be.
NorthofEngland
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So all the recognised authorities on the CMC are wrong or conspiring to deceive...?
But you're privy to secret information?
Khruschev was ousted over the CMC - HE FUCKING LOST THE GAME!
If you're vague statements refer to the removal of American missiles in Turkey then JFK did the minimum to prevent WW3 - Nuclear Annihilation.
In fact tell me what you know (or think you know) about the REAL CMC.
Did some guy in the bathroom at a party tell you the truth.
Just after the second line of coke and the story about Presidential complicity in 9/11....?
It's the Oliver Stone way of doing things where suspension of disbelief and hall of mirrors distortions are used to manipulate viewers away from the glaring inconsistencies inherent in the opinion.
AS for me being 'all turned around' You must have spun me so far and so fast that I never even noticed because I am certainly still facing in the same direction.
In my opinion you couldn't turn around an anorexic in a dancehall - Not with the absolute lack of rational in your arguments.
Unless, of course, someone counts adolescent petulance as rational.
Then you'll become their guru or even their fuhrer.
To me you have half the knowledge and twice the opinions....
A very dangerous way to be.
Doer
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So, you don't know about the Jupiter Missiles in Turkey? That's my point. You seem to think I care how I seem to YOU. FAIL.
In your own opinion you are lost in a lack of self respect or you would not speak in this way.
http://www.cubacrisis.net/angl/docum/turquie_27.html
In your own opinion you are lost in a lack of self respect or you would not speak in this way.
http://www.cubacrisis.net/angl/docum/turquie_27.html
Doer
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Khrushchev, along with many other members of the Politburo, was angered that America had placed military equipment, including B52 bombers, in Turkey. However, as Turkey was a member of NATO, from the Wests point of view, this was entirely legal and acceptable. To the Soviet Union it was provocative behaviour as Turkey shared a border with the USSR. When Khrushchev had the opportunity to counter this by placing medium range nuclear missiles in Cuba, he took it. He argued that they gave the Communist Caribbean island greater protection against another Bay of Pigs incident.
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/nikita_khrushchev.htm
In contrast to the conclusions of the Warren Commission, the United States House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) concluded in 1978 that Kennedy was probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy.[SUP][10][/SUP] The HSCA found the original FBI investigation and the Warren Commission Report to be seriously flawed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_John_F._Kennedy
I truly believe JFK was the worse President and had to be killed by the CIA over his ceaseless fuck up. Jupiter Missle, the Bay of Pig, and CMC....What a fuck up! And all the womanizing in those days was not cool to the straightjacket crowd. And they had to kill Bobbie also, for the reasons....retarded leadership.
He did nothing of good. He embarrassed the Presidency, but the dirty DEMS run this show. Therefore, the shrill may not know fact least they think for themselves instead of spewing insulting comments toward others.
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/nikita_khrushchev.htm
In contrast to the conclusions of the Warren Commission, the United States House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) concluded in 1978 that Kennedy was probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy.[SUP][10][/SUP] The HSCA found the original FBI investigation and the Warren Commission Report to be seriously flawed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_John_F._Kennedy
I truly believe JFK was the worse President and had to be killed by the CIA over his ceaseless fuck up. Jupiter Missle, the Bay of Pig, and CMC....What a fuck up! And all the womanizing in those days was not cool to the straightjacket crowd. And they had to kill Bobbie also, for the reasons....retarded leadership.
He did nothing of good. He embarrassed the Presidency, but the dirty DEMS run this show. Therefore, the shrill may not know fact least they think for themselves instead of spewing insulting comments toward others.
NorthofEngland
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I mentioned the removal of American missiles from Turkey - but they were about to become obsolete. They'd been there YEARS!
So, if the CIA (et al) assassinated JFK and RFK it was justified?
You right wingers....!
You make statements about government interference of liberty and Oligarchic encroachment onto democracy but, really, you accept a legally and democratically elected President being murdered by shadowy, unelected figures.
It really shows that you don't give a shit about the 'Democratic Freedoms' that youre so fondof accusing the left wing of threatening.
Paying 0.1 cent% to fund hospitals and schools - that's tyrannical or even communist.
Murdering an elected president - The Leader of the Free World and figurehead of global democratic values - that was necessary.
You fucking Nazi !
Doer
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Hey. Kennedy was elected in 1960, right? He deployed these offensive missiles. Fuck up, #1.
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The U.S. and Turkey concluded an agreement to deploy one Jupiter squadron on NATO's southern flank. One squadron totaling 15 missiles was deployed at five sites near İzmir, Turkey from 1961 to 1963,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PGM-19_Jupiter
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Oh, you think Che was a Nazi. There is your problem. I'm a Che-ist, sort of the opposite of right wing. And I see Liberals as right wing establishment. The missiles, we moved there as a provocation. An undefended 1st strike on Moscow. We refused to removed them. Your press hack cover stories about age of the system are meaningless.
These were close deployed, heavy throw weight, tactical, not strategic, 1st Strike Offensive weapons. But, the deal was we dismantled them over "agedness" 6 months after Kennedy was allowed to win the CMC, in the Press story.
What the Press really never talks about even after 50 years, is the fact that there were atomic tipped cruise missiles that had no fancy permissive links. Oh, sure, there were vertical launchers on land, as well, plus Soviet subs, at All Weapons Free, Status.
Only after many years was this even made public. I was at Tyndall AFB in FL and was within the range of all that.
So, the Bear got him, not the other way. In fact they got us so bad, they decided to back off and the K man was to much a firebrand with the shoe pound and the shouting and the sweating. He was, quite unusually, allowed to retire, without the 9 ounce Solution. (your buddy gets you drunk and shoots you in the back of the head and you never know it)
Well, what did Kennedy do in his short term?
- sucked us into Viet Nam to rescue French honor.
- Abandoned the Bay of Pigs fighters, He SENT, to be massacred.
- Failed to come to scratch with Khrushchev and looked dangerously stupid, at every turn
- backed down on the Jupiter base in Turkey, and lied about it
- bent organized crime, pals with the CIA since WW2, into a death wish for the Attorney General, Bobby.
- put a new meaning on "secretarial pool" and "cheating in the home."
- almost got me nuked
In other words, this green Senator who got a perfectly good PT-109, run down and splintered by an enemy Destroyer, is no war hero. Just a John McCain type, who got his perfectly good plane shot down for no reason, out of his AO, etc, but from a family with some pull.
He was a fuck up going in and a fuck up he remained and I don't know who killed them or if it was justified. I am just very glad it happened...to both,. and they should have gotten the Chappaquiddick calloused murderer, Ted, at the same time.
Jerks and Royalists. Camelot? Phhhhtt...feather-sacks!
echelon1k1
New Member
Sorry bro but you're all over the place. Could you explain how Kennedy fucked up by deploying missiles in accordance with the established cold war doctrine of area denial and western encirclement of the soviet bloc?
Bay of pigs? Aren't you pissed Russia tipped off Cuba?
Bant organised crime leading to RFKs death? Sorry bro that one had мокрое дело or wet job written all over it - the powers that be were too afraid of the Kennedy/King Ticket as one contributing factor.
As for getting you nuked - maybe a little short sighted considering Truman's decision?
Doer
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I don't want to be nuked. Nuke Truman. Those missiles were an un-necessary provocation, as we had plenty of batteries in Italy. We were warned but Kennedy was riding on pride.
And since when did the Mafia, KGB, and CIA not work for each other, from time to time? It is that kind of game. Spy vs Spy vs Spy. And I don't mean the CIA directly hit the brothers, but they helped, I think. KGB and Mafia hits, I think.
The Bay of Pigs was an amateur move, by a Policy pretender, and it failed. I didn't support it. Kennedy did and then when the chips were down he choked. It could have been over with Cuba right then, but no, another halting fuck up.
How about the failure to even see the trump card, at all, for the Jupiter provocation...Cuba?
That is the fuck up. He underestimated. Daring tit for tat, with nukes and then folding the tent, shows he was Out maneuvered. An embarrassment.
The CMC was his failure not his triumph. Name one thing he did right?
Nevaeh420
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As far as the Rothschild's go, I would like to send them to prison for life for crimes against humanity and then divide up their money, for the people, over the next 200 years or so. I would also like to expose the elites of the "elites" to everyone and let the people decide what to do.
Do you guys believe the Rothschild's should go to prison for life?
Do you guys believe the Rothschild's have committed crimes against humanity? Yes? No? and why?
How do you guys think the best way would be to divide up their money, 500 TRILLION dollars, over the next ~200 years?
Am I being irrational about anything? Or should we all ignore the fact that one family owns roughly HALF OF THE WORLDS WEALTH?
~PEACE~
Do you guys believe the Rothschild's should go to prison for life?
Do you guys believe the Rothschild's have committed crimes against humanity? Yes? No? and why?
How do you guys think the best way would be to divide up their money, 500 TRILLION dollars, over the next ~200 years?
Am I being irrational about anything? Or should we all ignore the fact that one family owns roughly HALF OF THE WORLDS WEALTH?
~PEACE~