Michigan House Panel Signs off on Medical Marijuana Dispensaries, Edible Products

thecatsmeow

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Good news for patients and caregivers--clearer, more sensible Medical Marijuana policy may be coming to Michigan soon...

http://www.mlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/12/michigan_house_panel_signs_off.html


LANSING, MI -- Medical marijuana dispensaries could return to Michigan under a proposal heading to the state House floor for consideration.
The House Judiciary Committee on Tuesday unanimously approved bills that would update the voter-approved Michigan Marihuana Act of 2008 to make way for dispensaries and allow more parts of the plant to be used in edibles.
The panel, in a 8-1-2 vote (with two Democrats passing), also approved a proposal to create a separate "pharmaceutical-grade cannabis" registry in the event that the federal government ever reclassifies marijuana as a Schedule II drug fit for medical use.
House Bill 4271, introduced by state Rep. Mike Callton, R-Nashville, would empower local communities to decide whether they want to allow dispensaries. Medical marijuana storefronts had operated in Michigan until a February ruling by the state Supreme Court forced them to close.
The substitute version approved Tuesday would require testing of medical marijuana sold through the "provisioning centers" and prohibit them from cultivating the plant, meaning they could only sell excess marijuana grown by certified caregivers or patients.
Callton, who fine-tuned the bill with input from municipalities and law enforcement officials, said the proposal would improve patient access and care.
"If you get your recommendation from a doctor, instead of waiting four to six months for someone to grow plants for you -- and you may be dead by then -- you'll be able to go right away to a provisioning center and get the medicine you need," Callton told MLive.
House Bill 5104, sponsored by state Rep. Eileen Kowall, would update the medical marijuana law to clarify that multiple parts of the plant -- including dried leaves, resin and extracts -- can be eaten or otherwise used by patients.
The version approved Tuesday includes new language defining the allowable amount of edible or topical marijuana that patients or caregivers can possess.
The Michigan Court of Appeals, in a July decision, ruled that "pot brownies" are not a usable form of marijuana under the medical law, essentially prohibiting non-smokable forms of the drug, including topical creams, drops and edibles. An appeal request has been filed with the Michigan Supreme Court.
Tim Beck, who helped spearhead the 2008 petition drive for medical marijuana, praised the passage of the bill despite some concerns with the proposed testing requirements and regulations.
"Nobody has ever died of an overdose of marijuana," said Beck. "Even marijuana that has mold might be unpleasant, but it's not a fatal situation. Most marijuana is not contaminated. Stuff you buy from Mexico is another story, but around here, people are very, very careful. It think the need (for testing) is a little exaggerated, but that's the sausage-making process."
Despite unanimous passage in committee, the bills face an uncertain future in the state Legislature, which has generally moved to add regulations to the voter-approved medical marijuana law rather than expand it.
Senate Bill 660, already approved by the upper chamber, faces a more likely path to passage, but it would have no effect unless the federal government reschedules marijuana.
Sponsoring Sen. Roger Kahn, R-Saginaw Township, testified last week that the new registry would not replace the state's caregiver-patient model, but it would provide patients with the option to access carefully tested and consistently dosed medicine.
Kahn worked on the bill with former state House Speaker Chuck Perricone, who now represents Prairie Plant Systems. The bio-pharmaceutical company has been Canada's primary medical marijuana provider for more than a decade and would like to grow the drug in a former copper mine that it owns in Michigan's Upper Peninsula.
State Rep. Jeff Irwin, D-Ann Arbor, opposed the bill because it would require patients to give up their current medical marijuana certification if they wanted access to the pharmaceutical-grade registry, forcing them to pay another $100 fee if they changed their mind and wanted to return to the patient-caregiver model.
"I would like to not charge citizens twice for the same access to the same service," said Irwin, who proposed an unsuccessful amendment to waive the fee for recertification in the original medical marijuana program.
 

cephalopod

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I doubt that too many view this as good news stranger. I for one question your intent here; this could just as easily be viewed as a disinformation campaign.
 

thecatsmeow

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I admit that the testing requirement for dispensaries will be unnecessarily burdensome, but dispensaries will be able to operate without fear of being shut down if House Bill 4271 is passed. And House Bill 5104 will allow edibles to be sold. Tell me, great stoner, Cephalopod, what warrants your paranoid attitude? Relevant news is needed on this forum.
 

NurseNancy420

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I admit that the testing requirement for dispensaries will be unnecessarily burdensome, but dispensaries will be able to operate without fear of being shut down if House Bill 4271 is passed. And House Bill 5104 will allow edibles to be sold. Tell me, great stoner, Cephalopod, what warrants your paranoid attitude? Relevant news is needed on this forum.
I can't answer for Ceph, but for myself I would say my paranoia is warranted by every previous action of out state government.. If you don't see that then well.......
 

st0wandgrow

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Hmmmm. I don't at all mind dispensaries being able to operate *IF* they don't fuck with my ability to grow my own meds. Seems like that's not the case based upon that MLive story above, so rock on with the dispensaries. I also like them clarifying that we can make edibles and concentrates and that falls under the protections in the act. I do not like this whole prairie plant system thing though. Why on earth would they bring in a company out of state (and country) to do this?
 

Rrog

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Even when a coffee shop sells muffins, the muffins have to be made in a kitchen that has certain minimum standards. But I wanna be able to bake at home without a G-man in Ray-Bans and an apron looking over my shoulder
 
The testing will destroy you selling overages to dispensaries, think about it:

You have 3 ounces of overages to sell, in order for a dispensary to buy it, you or them will have to pay to have it tested. Where will it be done? How long will it take? How much will it cost?

3 ounces, maybe. What if you only have 1/2 oz to sell? The cost of testing would kill the deal.

Only those growing large amounts will be able to afford and wait for testing, imo.
 

cephalopod

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cephalopod- what's your take on this?
I'd have to say my outlook is pretty close to stows. I don't care at all for 660; the rest wouldn't be needed if they allowed p2p. I'm all for safety and constiency, but they'll intentionally make licensing and regulation so high it'll crush cottage industries and become more costly to the patient in the end. Money grubbers at work I'm afraid. Are they going to give free meds and give other extras to their patients as well. Will they see that they get their grocery shopping done when they're too ill to leave the house or other chores? I'm willing to wager that there are plenty of good CG's that go above and beyond, but this is about trying to grab as much as they can as fast as they can. In my very humble opinion.
 

MFB

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Wait, so if you grow your own you can't buy from a dispensary?And if your a dispensary you can't grow your own you have to buy it from caregivers? And if you have a caregiver you can't buy from a dispensary?
 

thecatsmeow

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The testing will destroy you selling overages to dispensaries, think about it:

You have 3 ounces of overages to sell, in order for a dispensary to buy it, you or them will have to pay to have it tested. Where will it be done? How long will it take? How much will it cost?

3 ounces, maybe. What if you only have 1/2 oz to sell? The cost of testing would kill the deal.

Only those growing large amounts will be able to afford and wait for testing, imo.
Yes, Michigander, I couldn't agree more with your assessment. As a grower myself, I am worried about what this will cost me. And even if it doesn't cost me anything, will the dispensary owner that I sell to give me less to offset the cost of testing? This, unfortunately, is the cost of regulation. We wanted it, and this is what it brings--the entrance into the industry of people with deep pockets who can invest in large, automated grows, bringing down OUR bottom line... But what is the alternative? Ron Paul? That loon will not save us with his gold standard and vehemence for anything publicly funded. If we want to keep it friendly for small cannabis growers, we are going to have to have a sensible plan to counter with.

But regardless of what we do, the price of cannabis will continue to fall. This is simple supply and demand. Look at Oz. prices at dispensaries in Colorado... The less money we receive per ounce, the more we will have to expand to make the same amount of money. The move toward regulation, toward legalization has its downsides, but it sure beats prison for a plant.
 

ProdigalSun

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Even when a coffee shop sells muffins, the muffins have to be made in a kitchen that has certain minimum standards. But I wanna be able to bake at home without a G-man in Ray-Bans and an apron looking over my shoulder
They will stay out of my garden.


This passes and the quality of street weed is about to go way way up. You are also going to hear about pot busted in other states from Michigan because people will be looking for other places to sell it.

Serves them right too.
 

Huel Perkins

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The testing will destroy you selling overages to dispensaries, think about it:

You have 3 ounces of overages to sell, in order for a dispensary to buy it, you or them will have to pay to have it tested. Where will it be done? How long will it take? How much will it cost?

3 ounces, maybe. What if you only have 1/2 oz to sell? The cost of testing would kill the deal.

Only those growing large amounts will be able to afford and wait for testing, imo.
Testing only requires a gram of flowers and even less for concentrates.

Tests are $40.

Results usually come within 24 hours.

Everyone in the industry knows where to go for testing...
 

Rrog

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That'll be the last to go. Just like in Feudal Europe, they can just confiscate at will. Builds up the war chest. Same mentality. In this respect, cops are the robbers. No argument.
 
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