I have been reading about nutes that can be homemade and I found worm tea and I am wondering if i use this is it a stand alone nute or do i need to add other stuff? if using with other nutes do i need to use less of them or the same? I am trying to make nutes that can be made or bought at home depot or like that i can use for hempy bucket. thanks.
worm tea
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gangjababy
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I'm using bone meal right now and that stuff rocks 6-10-0. Blood meal can burn the plants so be careful. You can throw all sorts of things into the tea. Put 1 tablespoon of unsulphured molasses per gallon of water to get the tea going.
Johnnyorganic
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Start with the worm tea alone, it is an awesome all-around fertilizer.
DR. VonDankenstine
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Works very well but if you are concerned about mad cow disease then don't use blood or bone meal as nute source.Get bone and blood meal from home depot or lowes. Organic and works wonders to say the least. Hope i helped
Tom
Ohsogreen
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Worm Castings Tea is excellant for starting, or as a tonic, but it is not strong enough to carry you through the veggie stage of growth. Worm Castings only have 1% total nitrogen (.1% soluble (quickly absorbed) .9% eventually absorbed, no P, no K). Mary needs much more N, than that - after she spreads her third set of leaves. Start with your tea, then consider the following : Make all teas by oxgenating them - in a bucket with a cheap aquarium air pump / air stone for at least 24 hours.
Alfalfa Pellet or Meal - aka - Rabbit Food at the feedstore - one cup to one gallon of water (NPK 2-1-2) Make a tea - water in - smells like a wet sock.
Unsulphured Molasses - next to the pancake syrup at Wally World - one ounce to one gallon (NPK 5-1-2) - make a tea -smells nice - reminds me of Rum.
Fish Emulsion - (NPK 5-1-1) - smells, well - like fish guts..But a tried & true fertilizer, full of trace minerals; use as per label.
Bat Guano (NPK 10-2-3) if fresh - a little more expensive, but full of wonderful microorganisms - capable of leveling out any soil & improving it. Use as a tea (4 tablespoons of guano to a gallon of chlorine free water), water in - put the left over crud in the compost pile.
Mix & Match or Double a dose... experiment - just start low and add as you go... Stay on the path, less taken - Grow Organic - Plus check out Ebay - search for Organic Fertilizer - they have a pretty good selection. Any tonics or fertilizers by Blue Mountain Organics (kinda hard to find) are excellant. They have worm castings, bat guano, llama manure, even zoo doo.....
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thanks for the replies this is so fun and I am learning so much and hey its organic yeah. what about mushroom compost? I have seen this at a few garden shops could it be benificial? I am going to get the fish emulsion now I found it at a new nursery and was unsure if I needed it but now i will get it thanks. any suggestions let me know recipes as well. I will post if I discover a good recipe.
Ohsogreen
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Mushroom Compost - it is the left over soil (compost) from a commerical mushroom grow. By law, the stuff has to lay fallow (unused) for two years, before it can be sold. It tends to be pretty decent stuff. Because so much fungi action has occurred in it.
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I have mixed it with equal parts of worm castings, pertilite and some of my own compost & gotten good results. The stuff I bought was at a grocery store - greenhouse. I only paid $ 5 for a 40 pound bag. So, it was cheaper than most stuff you get at Wally World. It was very dark, & earthy smelling - always good signs. Plus since it has to sit so long, no weeds popped up, and there were no bugs (pests - gnats, flies or grub worms).
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Hope this helps..
VirginHarvester
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I have unsulphured molasses but most people talk about it as part of the final flower phase. It contains a boatload of micro nutrients but whether or not the nutrients in molasses can be absorbed by a plant was a question I had. But here is a link to what's in it.
WHFoods: Blackstrap molasses
So does molasses have that much nitrogen in it and is there a place for it in the veg stage? I would love to use it if so.
Also, on worm castings, when I flower I will transplant into larger pots and was thinking about using as much as 50% worm castings per gallon of new soil, because castings are great, won't burn, and probably would contain enough nitrogen to carry the plants through flowering. Sound like an "ok" idea?
And as far as making tea with guano, I don't have an oxygenator so will adding guano a day early to the water I feed with help release the nutrients?
Ohsogreen
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VirginHarvester
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So mix just water and molasses and pour them back and forth for a couple days; or water, molasses, and nutes together and pour back and forth?
Thanks.
Ohsogreen
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VirginHarvester... Just mix the molasses and chlorine free water together. Pour them back & forth - a couple of times a day, for two days.
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When you get ready to use it, pour some in a seperate watering jug, mix in your other nutrients & water in.
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That way, the little micro-beasties will stay active, chewing on the nutes you just added. They will multiply in your soil or medium & help break down the good stuff already present - as a added bonus.
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Your welcome... glad to help.
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The blood and bone meal they sell these days @ Wal-Mart and Home Depot are made from Porcine blood and bone. Thus mad cow is not an issue if you use those sources of fertilizer. There are other issues associated with atomized pig brains but those are probably not going to be found much in those types above.
I am currently using both as soil amendments.
billdo
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Worm Tea is nothing short of amazing.
I have the can-o-worms
It has a spigot at the bottom from which drippings from the composting worm trays come pouring out. The response my plants (houseplants and veggies, too) have had to this stuff is remarkable.
I have been feeding about 10 oz/gallon to my plants... and they can't get enough. I have a cilantro TREE outside. Fucking crazy shit.
I am assuming that this tea is much different from normal worm tea in that the water probably has a higher N-P-K rating since it is, at least to some degree, compost (and of course casting) runoff. I wish I knew what the N-P-K of it was... but right now I just keep pouring the shit in there and watching plants exlplode.
I have the can-o-worms
It has a spigot at the bottom from which drippings from the composting worm trays come pouring out. The response my plants (houseplants and veggies, too) have had to this stuff is remarkable.
I have been feeding about 10 oz/gallon to my plants... and they can't get enough. I have a cilantro TREE outside. Fucking crazy shit.
I am assuming that this tea is much different from normal worm tea in that the water probably has a higher N-P-K rating since it is, at least to some degree, compost (and of course casting) runoff. I wish I knew what the N-P-K of it was... but right now I just keep pouring the shit in there and watching plants exlplode.
dirt clean
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i just bought the 5 worm tray system with the spigot on the bottom. My DIY worm farm was not moving fast enough and food also piles high. I got rid of the fungus nats that came with the food scraps and learned how to do it properly. I got 2000 more worms coming.
A 100 dollar investment but with trips to the store to get 10 dollar bags of castings and the fact that I got anoterh reg garden for smells and thrills it should pay for itself in a year.
A 100 dollar investment but with trips to the store to get 10 dollar bags of castings and the fact that I got anoterh reg garden for smells and thrills it should pay for itself in a year.
dirt clean
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I am curious about the NPK of molesasses. My LR2 has had some trouble hitting flower and if the NPK in moleasses is right that is the problem. I guess the Key is the 24 hours so the bacteria can eat it all?
can I make tea without the moleasses? Will they break down the nutes that fast I wonder.
can I make tea without the moleasses? Will they break down the nutes that fast I wonder.
billdo
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yeah... me too! I started with 800 worms last year and I just added 2500 a couple of weeks ago. Big difference!
Arizona Dude
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Ohsogreen
When you make your molasses tea how much molasses do you add per gallon? Thanks.
When you make your molasses tea how much molasses do you add per gallon? Thanks.