Paul Ryan (R-WI) guts billions from veteran's benefits

echelon1k1

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The smart ones lived through the wars and are now earning six figure salaries. You're right, we may have a different definition of "smart."
maybe take that sentiment down to your local VFW and sing it loud and proud... Are you on the drink again TeePee?
 

DutchKillsRambo

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The smart ones lived through the wars and are now earning six figure salaries. You're right, we may have a different definition of "smart."
So all those Blackwater guys that were making 90k a quarter with Special Forces backgrounds were what?

Smarter, richer, harder, and better than you. Quit while your ahead man.

You want to make fun of the US military? There's plenty, take your pick. But calling men that could beat you death with one limb while reciting Arabic stupid isn't it.

These are the fucks you're looking for:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah_killings

And as you'll notice, not Special Forces.

Though why you want to admonish them while our troops are finding bags of severed heads and sheltering women with faces half melted off from acid I'll never know.
 

see4

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I hate the idea that one person who started working at 18 gets to retire with generous public benefits at 50--with an expected 30 years on the public dole, almost more time than their public service--while another person who started working at the same age has to wait until 68, getting substantially less over a much shorter time.
Except you are missing one very big difference. Once defends our country with their lives, the other does not.

You hate America and its veterans. That much is obvious. I would say beennowhere does too, but he is way too fucking stupid to realize it.
 

beenthere

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The smart ones lived through the wars and are now earning six figure salaries. You're right, we may have a different definition of "smart."
I've never served, so in one way I feel I shouldn't even be in this discussion, but you are one disrespectful SOB who I think wouldn't have the balls to say this to a veterans face.
 

echelon1k1

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So all those Blackwater guys that were making 90k a quarter with Special Forces backgrounds were what?

Smarter, richer, harder, and better than you. Quit while your ahead man.
He may mean in the professional white collar fields. Ex-Military personnel are highly sought after due to their motivational, time management and decisive decision making qualities. These qualities and so many more make them highly desirable for management positions in fortune 500s after they get their MBAs...
 

DutchKillsRambo

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I hate the idea that one person who started working at 18 gets to retire with generous public benefits at 50--with an expected 30 years on the public dole, almost more time than their public service--while another person who started working at the same age has to wait until 68, getting substantially less over a much shorter time.
First of all, its 20 years to retirement so age 38, not 50. Also, men (the by far largest part of the military) have a life expectancy of 76 years, not 80.

Besides your retarded math, do you really think a guy punching the clock 40 hrs a week at the shop a few miles from his house really is sacrificing as much as the guy that gets moved every 2-6 years for 20, all around the world, taking his family in tow, sometimes into a hell you can't even imagine?
 

DutchKillsRambo

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He may mean in the professional white collar fields. Ex-Military personnel are highly sought after due to their motivational, time management and decisive decision making qualities. These qualities and so many more make them highly desirable for management positions in fortune 500s after they get their MBAs...
I highly doubt that is what he meant. He meant the logistics guys back at base are somehow smarter than SEAL's. Because he's a dumb troll I'm pretty sure at this point.
 

echelon1k1

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I highly doubt that is what he meant. He meant the logistics guys back at base are somehow smarter than SEAL's. Because he's a dumb troll I'm pretty sure at this point.
Yeah I may suspect that too. I agree with what you're saying though, around half of the blokes in support companies for our AUS special forces units are beret qualified. Meaning they have successfully completed either Commando or SASR reinforcement cycle, psych testing and final commanders board review and have then been asked by Army to stay in their supporting roles due to the skills/experience they bring. All I can say is it takes a village...
 

DutchKillsRambo

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Yeah I may suspect that too. I agree with what you're saying though, around half of the blokes in support companies for our AUS special forces units are beret qualified. Meaning they have successfully completed either Commando or SASR reinforcement cycle, psych testing and final commanders board review and have then been asked by Army to stay in their supporting roles due to the skills/experience they bring. All I can say is it takes a village...
I recently rewatched "Gallipoli" with Gibson but that ended me up at this doc: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0867192/

If you haven't seen it, it's really really well done I thought, especially if your a WW1 buff like me.
 

tokeprep

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maybe take that sentiment down to your local VFW and sing it loud and proud... Are you on the drink again TeePee?
What separates me from most is that I'm not unwilling to speak the truth. Truth is truth. Hate it as you please; deny it all you want. You cannot alter truth.
 

tokeprep

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So all those Blackwater guys that were making 90k a quarter with Special Forces backgrounds were what?

Smarter, richer, harder, and better than you. Quit while your ahead man.

You want to make fun of the US military? There's plenty, take your pick. But calling men that could beat you death with one limb while reciting Arabic stupid isn't it.

These are the fucks you're looking for:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah_killings

And as you'll notice, not Special Forces.

Though why you want to admonish them while our troops are finding bags of severed heads and sheltering women with faces half melted off from acid I'll never know.
Not army grunts. Obviously. Being an army grunt, as you suggest, is way above the pay grade of the average American soldier dying in combat.
 
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