TIP: If you can't afford to buy 20L (5 gallon) grow bags ro buckets...

[Daithy]

Wrong, the Canadian B.B.V.C did the same thing, dude gave you his advise based on Canadian reference which is awesome of him..... you might not have known he was Canadian but I reckon it says he's Canadian right there on his avatar and he linked you to a Canadian store.....yet you make zero comments about what pisses you off about Canadians that offer you a cheaper solution to your problem in Ireland from Canada.







But look what happens when an American suggest a route that you may try that happens to work for him in America...........



and your response to this dude that was just trying to help you was........drumroll please.............

Funny how you extract an excerpt from the middle of a paragraph just to make me look like a hateful jerk as long as it suits your cause. I am really starting to see through you, you want to keep arguing. You're saying that you're all positive trying to help when in fact you want to stir shit up. You keep poking and you know that I'll bite back.

This is the whole reply I posted:

"I don't mean to be throwing off your proposal whatsoever, okay. I respect your experience and what you have come to know. But I tell you what I have come to know also. Where I live, Ireland, in a town. I don't know any landscapers at all, just not on my friends list

. Here you are left with DIY stores and garden stores, etc. When you are looking for something of that size they don't usually have it on stock and then they ask you what kinda plant you need it for...The more you ask them question, the more they ask you back if they don't have it, not in a mean way, they are just trying to help, but it raises eyebrow. If they have something of that size, the shittest, regular pot is about €12.50 at bets could be €15 or even €20. Maybe the rest of you get it in America for 50 cent or whatnot, but not here, so don't treat me like a buffoon (not you

, but the other wise guys). Things are very expensive in Europe, especially in Ireland, one of the highest costs of living in Europe. Even slightly higher than UK, I would dare to say. This is one thing that kinda pisses me off about Americans; they always use USA as a reference point. It's only 50 cent....and never check where's the other person from, what's the cost of living there, everything is always based on USA.

I am not at you, AimAim, just used this reply as a proxy. But please people from the states, be more open-minded towards people from other parts of the world. What costs 50c in your town could be a fortune somewhere else. "

 

[twostrokenut]

Hey Daithy I totally agree about the US and the fiat currency but you are wrong, they did not get rich...they are living on credit....and the fiat currency central bank model came straight from Europe....its not all golden here either bro the inflation is a bitch.

I on the other hand do not fit your stereotype of the typical American and the lifestyle, I owe no debt and own my land and refuse to add fuel to the fiat system by being a debt slave....all accomplished on a meager wage by being frugal and resourceful...and my standard of living will continue despite any of your America hating bullshit bro I already own several Gold Chinese Panda's they're real nice........Canadian maple leafs.....Krugerrands....AND saint gaudens double eagles........ wrong guy bro your are preaching to the choir while victimizing your situation.

 

[twostrokenut]

Funny how you extract an excerpt from the middle of a paragraph just to make me look like a hateful jerk as long as it suits your cause. I am really starting to see through you, you want to keep arguing. You're saying that you're all positive trying to help when in fact you want to stir shit up. You keep poking and you know that I'll bite back.

This is the whole reply I posted:

"I don't mean to be throwing off your proposal whatsoever, okay. I respect your experience and what you have come to know. But I tell you what I have come to know also. Where I live, Ireland, in a town. I don't know any landscapers at all, just not on my friends list

. Here you are left with DIY stores and garden stores, etc. When you are looking for something of that size they don't usually have it on stock and then they ask you what kinda plant you need it for...The more you ask them question, the more they ask you back if they don't have it, not in a mean way, they are just trying to help, but it raises eyebrow. If they have something of that size, the shittest, regular pot is about €12.50 at bets could be €15 or even €20. Maybe the rest of you get it in America for 50 cent or whatnot, but not here, so don't treat me like a buffoon (not you

, but the other wise guys). Things are very expensive in Europe, especially in Ireland, one of the highest costs of living in Europe. Even slightly higher than UK, I would dare to say. This is one thing that kinda pisses me off about Americans; they always use USA as a reference point. It's only 50 cent....and never check where's the other person from, what's the cost of living there, everything is always based on USA.

I am not at you, AimAim, just used this reply as a proxy. But please people from the states, be more open-minded towards people from other parts of the world. What costs 50c in your town could be a fortune somewhere else. "

See it now? Thought not. I'm off your thread for real, many apologies and may a Home Depot be erected near you soon....think I will drink a shot of Jameson now salut to you sir.

 

[Dr Kynes]

I have my 1st grow in 2.5 gallons (10L) at present 1 one veg (will be transplanting and switching 12/12 tomorrow). You are talking like €15–€25 for a 20L plastic pot in a local shop. Even on the internet it's next to impossible to find something reasonable for a decent price. Growbags are pricey on the net as well if you have, let's say, 10 plants. I was desperate (as I couldn't afford anything bigger) and nearly mentally settled for a defeat, until I got the simplest idea yesterday, and then I thought: "why didn't I think of this earlier?!." I am gonna use 20L bin bag. Now, I am a newbie and should not be giving advices here, and please treat this as such as I haven't tested it yet, so be careful. If you live in Europe, go to Lidl. They sell good, firm bin bags. Make sure you get the 20L one — not only for the size, but the other types are thin, flimsy and not worth a wank.

I will use 2 bags to reinforce it a little. The only thing about that worries me a little if the smell of them. I wonder have they been run through some sort of chemicals. Maybe I'll wash them first. What do you think senior growers? Is it a good or bad idea?

if by Bin Bag, you mean a plastic trashbag, youre gonna have lotsa trouble.

plastic bags dont breathe, so theyre gonna grow more mould than dope, if you punch a shitload of holes all over so they can breather they will leak and dribble everywhere, runoff os gonna be horrible.

if you double bag your plants, the space between the bags is gonna grow fungus like mad, no matter how many holes you make.

if you REALLY wanna go cheap, get burlap sacks, they should last a cycle or two, and wont grow funk.

the woven polyester sacks used for sand bags can also do a good job, but if you want the best bet, 5 gallon buckets from your local builders merchants, or even a wicker basket can grow a plant.

all you need is for the container to do is keep the dirt in, let water and air through, and keep light out. you could grow in an old horse trough, a coffee can, or a soup pot (provided you add drainage holes)but a plastic trashbag is a really poor choice.

 

[Daithy]

Hey Daithy I totally agree about the US and the fiat currency but you are wrong, they did not get rich...they are living on credit....and the fiat currency central bank model came straight from Europe....its not all golden here either bro the inflation is a bitch.

I on the other hand do not fit your stereotype of the typical American and the lifestyle, I owe no debt and own my land and refuse to add fuel to the fiat system by being a debt slave....all accomplished on a meager wage by being frugal and resourceful...and my standard of living will continue despite any of your America hating bullshit bro I already own several Gold Chinese Panda's they're real nice........Canadian maple leafs.....Krugerrands....AND saint gaudens double eagles........ wrong guy bro your are preaching to the choir while victimizing your situation.

I don't hate America. So when one says a bad thing about America, you say"hey you, you hate America" Grow up and learn how to accept criticism.

Yes, they did get each. If there was almost no other way to purchase oil than using dollars than guess what... The Fed lends out paper to the world in return for hard currency like resources...

Good for you that you are all set, I'm actually happy for you, and I mean it. I don't like seeing a fellow human being in dire straits, but just try not to be an ass when talking to someone on a forum.... that's all.

 

[new2420grow]

I am using 10L buckets at the moment which I got for free form a fast food. Buckets of mayonnaise. I was hoping for bigger but they just don't have them. I was, of course, shopping and looking for pots in local shops and online before and during. But time has run out and I'll have to resort to those bags, but I don't think that it is a bad idea. And by the way, I don't know why everyone is trying to tell me to buy buckets since the thread opened. I already know that I cannot get 10x 20L pots for under €100. I spent hours and hours of looking. But it doesn't matter, I didn't open this thread looking for buckets; I open the thread saying that I will be using the bags. I wanted for other people to see that there is an alternative if they don't have the outlay at present.

It could be because in your opening post, you asked, of the senior growers, if they thought it was a good idea or not. Instead of just saying, "no". They might have actually been trying to be helpful and give you other options. If you just want to state what you are doing, then just do that. If you ask what people think on here, they are going to tell you what they think. Since you stated that pots were too expensive, the "go to" pot in most areas is a bucket. In most cases, even if you don't have the same stores, everywhere has buckets. Your trash bag will work, but I also think it will be a major pain in the ass, especially if you try to move it around at all. When I was mixing my soil on my first grow, I tried using a heavy garbage bags to mix it in. I ditched that idea real quick and used some big storage boxes to mix it. I don't even want to think of the pain of growing in one. Again, it would work and if I had no other option, I'd do it. But, I'd do the best I could to find some big buckets before I resorted to using them. That's just my .02

 

[Daithy]

if by Bin Bag, you mean a plastic trashbag, youre gonna have lotsa trouble.

plastic bags dont breathe, so theyre gonna grow more mould than dope, if you punch a shitload of holes all over so they can breather they will leak and dribble everywhere, runoff os gonna be horrible.

if you double bag your plants, the space between the bags is gonna grow fungus like mad, no matter how many holes you make.

if you REALLY wanna go cheap, get burlap sacks, they should last a cycle or two, and wont grow funk.

the woven polyester sacks used for sand bags can also do a good job, but if you want the best bet, 5 gallon buckets from your local builders merchants, or even a wicker basket can grow a plant.

all you need is for the container to do is keep the dirt in, let water and air through, and keep light out. you could grow in an old horse trough, a coffee can, or a soup pot (provided you add drainage holes)but a plastic trashbag is a really poor choice.

Now that's a reply I was kinda expecting instead of arguing about crap.

Thank you very much sir. Now, you're saying that it won't breathe in a plastic bag, but how exactly does it breathe in a plastic bucket? I hear ya on the two layers, but how does the bag differ from bucket when they are both plastic.

 

[Dr Kynes]

Now that's a reply I was kinda expecting instead of arguing about crap.

Thank you very much sir. Now, you're saying that it won't breathe in a plastic bag, but how exactly does it breathe in a plastic bucket? I hear ya on the two laters, but how does the bag differ from bucket when they are both plastic.

i put holes in the bottom of the bucket so it can drain, just like a ceramic pot does, but plastic bags cling, and form pockets folds and crevices which a bucket will not.

those are the spots that grow funk and rot your roots.

a burlap sack breathes, so folds and crevices dont grow as much funk, and buckets and pots dont trap[ pockets of dirt and water for bacteria and fungus to thrive in.

if you cant buy buckets, hit up your local restaurants and pubs, they get shit in those buckets all the time (pickles, mayonnaise, etc) and will likely give em to ya if you want em.

 

[Daithy]

It could be because in your opening post, you asked, of the senior growers, if they thought it was a good idea or not. Instead of just saying, "no". They might have actually been trying to be helpful and give you other options. If you just want to state what you are doing, then just do that. If you ask what people think on here, they are going to tell you what they think. Since you stated that pots were too expensive, the "go to" pot in most areas is a bucket. In most cases, even if you don't have the same stores, everywhere has buckets. Your trash bag will work, but I also think it will be a major pain in the ass, especially if you try to move it around at all. When I was mixing my soil on my first grow, I tried using a heavy garbage bags to mix it in. I ditched that idea real quick and used some big storage boxes to mix it. I don't even want to think of the pain of growing in one. Again, it would work and if I had no other option, I'd do it. But, I'd do the best I could to find some big buckets before I resorted to using them. That's just my .02

No, no, good reply. Yes, pot is a general term for a container used for growing plants. When I searched shops and online I checked for buckets as well. I checked for everything, pots, buckets, grow bags, smart pots, tomato and potato bags, everything. If I was to include everything to every reply I would never stop typing.

However, you are making a good point, it might be difficult that's why I opened up the thread to discuss if it's a good idea or not. I am worried about the stability of the bag

 

[Dankfactory]

Trash bag pot thread run rampant.. Gotta love RIU!

 

[althor]

if by Bin Bag, you mean a plastic trashbag, youre gonna have lotsa trouble.

plastic bags dont breathe, so theyre gonna grow more mould than dope, if you punch a shitload of holes all over so they can breather they will leak and dribble everywhere, runoff os gonna be horrible.

if you double bag your plants, the space between the bags is gonna grow fungus like mad, no matter how many holes you make.

if you REALLY wanna go cheap, get burlap sacks, they should last a cycle or two, and wont grow funk.

the woven polyester sacks used for sand bags can also do a good job, but if you want the best bet, 5 gallon buckets from your local builders merchants, or even a wicker basket can grow a plant.

all you need is for the container to do is keep the dirt in, let water and air through, and keep light out. you could grow in an old horse trough, a coffee can, or a soup pot (provided you add drainage holes)but a plastic trashbag is a really poor choice.

I agree. OP is most likely going to run into some major issues if they are referring to plastic trashbags. I will be interested to find out how it goes. I will suprised if not major root issues from mold.fungus.rotting.

 

[Daithy]

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Good luck, I am truly sending good vibes your way and hope all goes well.

I promised you this....

 

[Daithy]

Right, did one bin bag only as I ran into some problems. Bought Peat Moss and mixed it 1/2 and 1/2 with Perlite but the bitch was 4.8 pH. I had garden lime as they don't have dolomite lime around here in local stores. I haven't used dolomite lime, but that garden lime is weak as shit. Anyway, I had to put in like half the box to bring the pH up to 6.3. I had enough for another transplant into 15L bucket.

 

[Daithy]

I know that the plants aren't perfect, but they striving, in fact they grow 2 inch per day on average. So people, if you cannot afford anything better, bin bags are just fine. Make sure you get the good ones, firm ones. Of course, do your best to avoid this and get something proper, but if you cannot afford or there is nothing available in your area for affordable price(I don't know why do many people cannot comprehend such a simple concept in this thread), then go for it. The bags I am using are 120L, over 20 Gal, so only sky is your limit. I have there approx 8 gallons. Should have done it from seed to finish, but hey, we all learn on the way. This tip is for people who are interested. Haters, I am not interested in your nonsense, I have better things to do then argue on a forum..


Status: 21 days of 12/12 period

 

[Daithy]

Trashbags were no hassle whatsoever. The plants are a bit scorched due to open light and inadequate ventilation, but the bags did the job fine. If you are stuck people and there is no other way, use (good and firm) bin-bags.