Check out Hodgegrown's thread. If you haven't looked at the pic in my signature, please take a look. My plants are LST'd heavily to limit height. Usually just under 9 feet.(Several plants in my "Cage" would be over 10' if not for radical training.) If you really don't see the value of my comments, I'll keep them to myself. I tend to be a little pushy, but only because I want to share what I've learned. There are a lot of situations, details and techniques that take a lot of time to learn, and due to space, just can't be found in a book. PM me if you happen to want an independent opinion of a problem. I tend not to follow fads and old wives tales.
VG