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So this is what you're here for then? You wanted to pretend like you were here for a topic, but really it's just bickering?

At some point in life, you start to realize that everything is 100x more complex than you thought it was, and people aren't nearly as awesome as we like to think we are.

Wasn't that used in pretty much every newborn's eyes for the last hundred years?

What about last week??

Not sure how much I like the "mind your own business" mentality when people are literally being murdered. Sounds like a good path to being murdered.

The average idiot loves him, because they have the exact same conversations. Problem is, the average idiot isn't supposed to be running a fucking country.

I think he thought it would be like before. He'd roll in and either they'd love him, or he'd mess the place up and then say sorry and they'd slap his hand and he'd leave laughing, but the world ain't having it anymore.

This is where we need the dual laugh/cry emoticon.

That's what worries me too, the same economic damage to him, is even worse to the average Russian. And if you want to see a society do do something really ugly, starve their people. Should we survive this period without nukes, it may very well be the treaty of versailles equivalent that kicks...

Ain't that the truth. That's what worries me about trump-style politicians, they don't have the "cooler heads prevail" mentality.

Considering the world's response, there really is no scenario where Putin wins.

Along those lines, someone just posted this one...

Putin could take Ukraine without interference if he did it "right", but he's so full of hate that he's incapable. Same thing with Georgia, he did so much shitty stuff to civilians that it opens the door to stopping the war via humanitarian efforts. Now that they're bombing apartment buildings...

He must have had the vaccine.

Don't forget the coffee salute! Add it to the list of little things you have to amplify as a proxy for good ol' fashioned racism.

No. Germany lost it when they went to Russia in the winter completely unprepared.

Russia isn't even in the top ten of global economies. Russia's economy is 1/10th the size of China's. They're just fine without Russia.

The US isn't the only country where half the population are rednecks.

My best guess is that folks didn't trust your motive for saying so. Normally I don't sweat polls too much, but I'll flat out admit that it comes from a place of fear and paranoia, due to current events and how scary the other options are.

I sure hope you're both right. The last thing we need is someone like trump anywhere near politics, particularly when there are serious and complex issues at hand.