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My uncle is completely convinced that Obama is a not-so-secret Muslim agent that is loyal to the middle east (country?) and is now going to go become the leader of the UN and weaken them against Muslim immigration/influence in the region. I couldnt get him to explain the "grand plot" if you...

Well we agree it is still illogical to want to kill them. Maybe more of a quasi-slippery slope, what i meant is that type of radical ideology will require other special circumstances (widespread poverty, a history of tribalism, a needed scapegoat, a war torn nation) before it becomes a...

That slippery slope could be used for any radicalized belief system but other factors that led to the rise of the Nazi party must be considered. Murder is worse than having unrealistic, unwavering beleifs, making murder irrationale. Stopping a wrong by commiting a worse wrong?

In what way do they describe religion as a problem? I think very, very few view it as such a big problem that it justifies murdering people.

Again, something is being added to atheism. Atheism itself does not in any way even hint to viewing religion or religious people as "the problem". That would fall under other ideologies like fascism. Atheism does not equal fascism.

Really, you've never seen anybody compare Jesus's teachings to communism? Are you new to the internet? Damn, I really wish you could just comprehend the millions ways I've explained the same exact point. Here it is one more time: Stalin being atheist has zero influence on his decision to kill...

Exactly, i couldnt say it better.

Sure it holds water. Are you really saying you cant see a government run economy that is also a religious theocracy? Like the Monarchy in Great Britain for example? Arent the teachings of Jesus somewhat communist in that they are pro-social welfare and anti-greed, and all under a central...

I disagree. Communism can exist without atheism. Communism and atheism do not call for killing. A communist/atheist regime isnt inherently evil/violent, if they commit violence and evil it reflects on them personally not the commands of atheism or communism. Unlike some examples of religion...

Not the best i can do obviously as far as finding examples in the NT. Those examples i pulled right from this thread. Im not saying you are wrong, just that i probably wont be convinced until i get more information. But im more interested in the third part which is how the New Covenant type of...

I am basing my claim on what ive read, if you can prove otherwise ill listen. i wont claim to be an expert in theology. Here are the examples of the new testament condoning violence: Luke 19:27: But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them...

The laws and police procedural policies were penned because that cop acted out of evil? Again, wtf are you talking about. I think you might have lost the context or maybe miscomprehended?

Wtf?

How did they do it through their disbeleif? That makes no sense. Killing in the name of atheism would mean you are killing in the name of nothing. Just think about what ive written instead of knee-jerk defense responses.

I will lay blame to them personslly but not the most basic principles of communism and atheism. The principles required for atheism and communism are not inherently immorral or command/support violence. You are right, it wasnt twisted because it doesnt even connect logically to the actions of...

What if the doctrine could be easily interpreted the other way but followers are negligent in amending it to reflect logical morality? I blame the doctrine more than the complicit followers, but the followers bear responisbility over their doctrine. If they amend their religion to reflect...

Not atheism, but Stalin's agenda to spread atheism. The doctrine of atheism, which doesnt even make sense to exist, could not have been interpreted to justify Stalin. Acting on the behalf of atheism makes no sense, where as acting in the name of your god makes sense. Therefore atheism cannot...

He acted in spite of his doctrine, very different than what ive been criticizing.

i dont see the relevance my freedom to believe to this discussion. If it can be in any way interpreted to justify murder/killing its still wrong though! If they are clearly twisting and editing the original doctrine then i agree that the original doctrine is not to blame. The question is do the...

Lets assume what you say above is true. It still doesnt disprove my argument. If a religion or any other ideology explicitly states in its text that it is OK or commanded to kill, then when people kill in that religions name, the doctrine shares blame. If the doctrine is being edited or...