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Fed Leaf: Don't get me wrong. Even with the LED it was next to impossible to see any mites with my naked eyes. However what stood out quite a bit were the tiny brown spots from where they were eating away at the leafs. Also remember my girls are "very" small. They do not stretch out a lot...

A handful of leaves have brown spots on the bottom (Spider Mites). I will say that fortunately the LED makes these issues VERY visible. I was happy to catch it early. So I squeezed in a few minutes to hit the Hydro Store during lunch today. They sold me one of those "Bomb" cans. You basically...

Well folks I've finally determined that the one plant is not a Short Rider. Even being bent at 90 degrees it's an inch taller, and the buds are not maturing nearly as quick as the Indica looking plant. I never tied anything down on the Indica looking one. She's stayed short, squat and is...

I can't disagree with you. Valid statement! I'd be interested in seeing a Blackstar side by side with a Penetrator Pro or a Magnum 357. I went with my Penetrator for two reasons: 1. I trust the Hydro Store guy (15 + years growing experience) and he gave me a (full grow from seed to...

Mineralz: The lights are definitley more up front. For example some killer ones would be the Penetrator 126W Pro or the 357 Magnum ($635 / $750). But here is the thing. A good 400 - 600W HPS with a remote ballast will set you back about $300.00. That's just for the light, hood and ballast...

Jdizzle: Great info man, thank you for sharing that! You hit the nail on the head for "seedlings". Mine are under a 2 Foot 25w (6400K) CFL for a good 7 days until they get a few sets of leaves. They seem to mature quickly so I'll definitely be doing this in the future as well. Gives them...

God that is impressive. Hope I get similar results off the LED I got going right now. Here's to hoping. :hump:

Looking good man. Stoked to see how everything turns out.

Fadeleaf: 200w is not a big deal at all. It's like you leaving a few lights on 24/7 in your house. I think CFL's are good for starting seedlings and for supplemental lighting. But other then that they will not flower a plant like an HPS or (theoretically) a good LED setup. Like the...

Federal: Great to hear from someone else who's giving the LED thing a shot. I'm with you on the "drama" and "buzz" around Ledgirl. I could really care less about that stuff. If this thing works then that's good enough for me. As far as the price goes on these lights? It's 400 a zip all day...

Jdizzle: Hey thanks for checking out my thread man. And I greatly appreciate your feedback. As far as the story behind the creator(s) of the Penetrator LED lights, if the story is true I hope the individual(s) find some good in their lives and put whatever problems they have behind. But...

Ha Ha thanks Mineralz. These things flower so quick they really don't get a chance to veg. If you did them in a hydro setup under some "serious"lighting such as a 600 or 1000W HPS, or a high powered LED ($1000 - $1500 job)they'd be a lot bigger as well as the yield. My goal is to get a...

Thanks man. The AK-48 on the left was grown under a 150W HPS. Yielded about 3/4's of a zip. Here is the link: https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/411658-first-grow-bumpy-road.html

Here are pics of both plants at 42 days (separate and together): The speed square is 7" tall. Just wanted to give a reference for size. The plants are only about 10 - 11" right now. But very compact. I have had to do a lot of pruning to let some light in for the lower bud sites. So they...

Both girls are 42 days in from germination, and seem to be flowering well. These first two pics are actually a comparison. The brown colored pot is the AK-48 during my last "fictitious" grow. It was at exactly 42 days in that pic. And the black pot of course is one of the Short Riders (Sativa...

Grumpy: Hey thanks for the advice man. I will definitely start going extra on the watering.

* For the newbies out there: At this point during my ficticious last grow, the AK-48 was not in good shape. The change I made this time around was my "watering". I'm using a lot more at each watering, but spacing each watering session at 4 days apart. I'll probably try to keep that up for...

Still can't believe both seeds were from the same batch. Second and 3rd pic are of the more Indica (Short Rider) looking plant. Here are some good shots of the Sativa looking girl: Some dirt simple LST. Did not have to do this on the other one. Next time however I will tie a...

Yesum: Thank you very much for checking out the journal and sharing your advice and experience. They both look like they are "just" starting to flower. So I changed things around and got them about 5 - 6" from the LCD Panel. Also just did some LST to even out the canopy. Peace man

Day 30 from seed. Didn't feel like taking them out of the cabinet for pics. But the color is a rich green on both plants. They're looking healthy and the more Indica looking of the plants is starting to flower. :blsmoke: