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When do most of you guys start counting how long a plant has been flowering? Do you start when you flip lights to 12/12? At the first sign of sex? When the first sort of flower appears? I've seen a lot of different answers on this on this and not sure what is right. Any help woud be much...

Newbie here also. Just getting started. Just want to say thanks for all who have posted. I have learned a lot just by reading here. I know I still don't know jack compared to most here but will hopefully learn.