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hi mate,i only grow from clones but when i do grow from seed i wait till i see pre flowers before i start counting the days and even then i still use a scope to make sure there ready

hows it going people:mrgreen: been lurking for some time now,so thought i would introduce me self been growing for a few years now and have to say i love this game:eyesmoke: bit of info for you all... im from the uk,and at the mo we are running 7 600 watters all aircooled in the spare...