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a cool tube needed for my hid costs about £60 and i would need to get a new fan, longer tubing, and another clip on fan for £6- i was thinking instead of this getting a 250w cfl (red and blue) for a 100% for a cost effective cooler alternative to the hid? im already using some cfl's and could...

yer the soil is rubbish, really want some foxfarm, dont kno where to get in the uk

dont those cooltubes take two fans to them tho? i cant do that with this setup. eventually ill switch to high output cfl's

i cut them at the top? it hasnt grown at all yet

what you dont see is the cfl's which are below the hid, closer to the small one's their still growing up but not radically, growth seems normal if a bit slow, i could lift them up if necessary? i did the topping right didnt i? how long before i can tell its worked? xx

a mother, nice, would love one for myself! always growing from scratch, good for pracise though, you learn something new everyday! x

the two small plants on the left have been topped, all plants are on 12/12 lighting, so its all up too fate now, big female is doing really well, looks healther than it does in the photo. will upload pics in a week to show you what has happened to the small plants x

cool, will do, ill still put up some picks so u guys can see what happens anyway, gonna take some picks tomorrow of the flowering plant, it could do with being bit bigger, but i'm not sure, ill show u guys the picks and u can tell me if its actually the right time to go 12/12. i love u guys x

to hell with it, they could be whatever, im gonna put it on 12/12 for my big plant and see it as an experiment, ill show you guys what happens to the lil ones on 12/12 asap xx

but what do i do with the lil ones then? its the only grow space in the house, will having them on 12/12 really fuck them up? xx reply soon xx

ok the big plant is now showing signs of being female, time to flower, however the other plants are still small, what will happen to them if i put it on 12/12? xxx please someone comment

looks all good bro,, i would say if u want it to get bigger, transfer into a larger pot, but thats just claiming the obvious, keep uploading pics, all looks good

with the HID on the temp is reading at 35 celcius, kinda bad i guess, plants seem ok tho, only just put the light up. for some reason the bigger plant in the bigger pot is drying up much faster than the small pots! wtf? soaking up more water or something i guess. anyone out there?

why the yellow tips?. like to hear from you guys x

well looks like this is loosing ur guys interest :( its a shame, gonna upload some picks today x

happy new year, all advice has been put to use, ill upload some picks soonish, im gettin yellow tips on some of the leaves? xx

happy day-before-christmas-day! happy bunning! xxx

the only problem with it being any lower is that it will be on the taller plant, ive lowered it as much as i can, they dont seem to be growing up as much now, i think they have done their initial growing ive been streightening them with me finga's! but ive got the intake fan blowing on the a bit...

ok, with the cfl's the room temp is 77 farenheight and the humidity is at 40%, going to try with the HID 400w in a couple of days and will post my readings, just waiting for them seedlings to be strong enough, what do you think, isnt this too cold? x