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If $ is a issue check out cfls started with those in the '80's. I miss those simple days.

Go with your gut! Sometimes the so called experts here are more about brand names and showing off. Like a bunch of 13 year olds comparing high end shoes.

Try strip lights

Thanks. If I was concerned about efficiency I would grow outside.

Does anyone have any experience with these or know about them?

Chill its only a freaking light bulb. Different strokes for different folks.

I love my leds but the conversation about plan old fashioned light bulbs was so much simpler. And alot less ugly.✌

Amen my brother!

Why does every question about lighting turn into a mathematical debate on nonsensical lighting formulas and other stupid shit!!!!!

3 that sucks The great state of Michigan bunch of hypocrite (R) allow us 12

Thanks. It's a DIY I can configure my setup any way I want

Running 9 50w so far so good. I think the true purpose of 12v vs 110v is energy savings. Not sure but after 1 month that is the only difference I can see. Oh and they are a hell of alot cheaper

It finally came today. Hooked it up,hard to believe those 4 little leds can do anything in just 15 minutes per 12/12 period. Anyone get any experience with these?

Check eBay. You can get a good 110v/12v 15a converter for about $18 you can run a shit load of 12v stuff with it.

No it is. Thanks guys

Wrong. Never mess with using different voltage either higher or lower

Starting a 2nd grow space 2x3 how many 50w cobs would be the max to use?

I guarantee you if you trans to at least 2 gal fabric pots your problems will be behind you.