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  1. collective gardener

    20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

    Hydro International Yellow Bottle Finish
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    20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

    LMAO. Yeah! What's the deal with them wanting to know the whole grow op details. I told the fucker that everything was great until I started with their nutes. Like this little ass clown is going to help me dial in my op. I have a fucking nutrient question. Just give me a nutrient answer. They...
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    Need help asap i think this clinic is trying to jack me

    DO NOT call the police. I already ran that by my attorney when a club was taking too long to pay me. He said they will gladly take your complaint, have you sign it, and arrest you. It's a slam dunk sales case for them. Legally selling to clubs takes a buttload of paperwork to cover your ass. ALL...
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    20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

    I have a feeling that's what they will tell me. I already solved the problem, and it didn't affect the bud size. What I want to know is just how good is AN's tech support? So far, I'm less than impressed. The first email was sent out Sunday. First response was Tue, with just a bunch of...
  5. collective gardener

    STAY AWAY FROM LED's!!!!!

    Corbat, I was thinking the same thing, but really just wanted to address the rudeness. Also, I'd like to see the pile of buds that added up to 1.34 gms/watt. I'd bet my next harvest that over 50% of those buds were too small and too fluffy to market....but they were still counted. I used to...
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    20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

    Technaflora is high onn the list of organic nute tests. It's ine of the few organics to have fairly complete nutrient analysis printed on the bottle. I like that. I think if anyone were to try and go 100% organic in a hydro/soiless settup, you'd be best off using several lines. I'm just not...
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    STAY AWAY FROM LED's!!!!!

    Off my rocker? For asking a question? Did I insult the grow? Was I rude in any way? I wasn't even reffering to the lights. My question was why would any chem take 84 days? It's a 60 day plant...always has been. I'm growing some Tahoe OG X Chem Dawg right now that finishes in 56 days. My question...
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    STAY AWAY FROM LED's!!!!!

    84 days for Chem?
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    STAY AWAY FROM LED's!!!!!

    When I'm setting up lights in a room, I'm looking for at least 25,000 lum everywhere. The bulk of the canopy will be recieving closer to 50,000 lum, with some tops getting 60,000+ lums. The hard and simple truth is that more light makes bigger, denser, and better looking buds. This is true right...
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    STAY AWAY FROM LED's!!!!!

    I think there's a HUGE element missing in the PAR discussion: It doesn't seem to have much impact on real world performance of a light. If it did, then the 90 watt LED would truly outperform a 400 watt HPS. We know now that this is not rue. LED makers have been using PAR numbers to sell lights...
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    STAY AWAY FROM LED's!!!!!

    OK. I'm taking a deep breath to get over Footclan's rant. Trying to help keep this thread on topic is proving to be quite a challange for those of us (most of you guys) who just want to find some truth regarding the present and future potential of LED. Would you guys mind if I kind of backed...
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    20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

    That's a question for Singing Crow. The shit I've seen was made by a friend.
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    STAY AWAY FROM LED's!!!!!

    A little redundant comment. The guy changed it. Did you just need to get in that last little snip? How cheesy.
  14. collective gardener

    20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

    Yes. I am interested in possibly working with you to get the meds out. I do need anyone I deal with to join our collective. Have you tried Technoflora? It has a good rep for an all organic liquid. You can also start with around 400ppm chemical base, and then start slowly adding in organics. In...
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    20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

    Kinda lame...yes...but funny as fuck. Keep em coming.
  16. collective gardener

    20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

    It is I who should aplologize. I'me always thinking people want something from me. How cynical is that? Not who I try to be. You may have seen my numerous outreaches, looking for needy folks to donate meds to. When I say donate, I mean donate...as in free....not donate, as in donate an Lb in...
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    STAY AWAY FROM LED's!!!!!

    Was the "idiot" comment really necessary? I dissagree with the post, as well. But it's comments like these that take the thread down a negative road. Rise above that shit, brother.
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    STAY AWAY FROM LED's!!!!!

    Clonex, I feel your pain in knowing the only accurate way to test new LED's is to have enough of them. Mixing new LED's with HID's may be great, but how would we know what the LED's are bringing to the party. I have to say, the lights Corbat linked have got me thinking the technology might be...
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    STAY AWAY FROM LED's!!!!!

    Corbat, Thanks for adding something positive to this thread. I thought this thing had gone the way of so many others. Good show, all you guys for pulling this fucker out of the muck. This light you linked looks promising. Of course, there have been others that I have gotten exited about, only...
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    20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

    I appreciate your interest. Unfortunately, we have a policy that all new members be recommended by an existing member. Also, the only members that work at the op (or even know the location) are myself, my wife, Commercial J, and our husband and wife trim team "Tokey" and "Mrs. Tokey". We were...
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