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  1. collective gardener

    20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

    There's plenty of pics of my mothers in just the last few pic posts. I just got 2 new Tahoe x mothers from Commercial J that I can take pics of. It's not like the mothers show much...a big ol' bushy vegetating plant.
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    20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

    Me and Commercial J spent the day visiting our friends grow ops today. It was great to get out of mine and check out someone else's nightmare. One of our stops (Commercial M) is growing the Tahoe x Chem Dawg pheno that I'm playing with. He was the first one to get the cut, so his shit is the...
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    Cultivation license

    PotPower, Our attorney consistantly uses the argument that a patient may only be able to tolerate concentrates or edibles, and therefore needs more plants. The criminal justice system has absolutely ZERO say in what medicine you can tolerate, and/or how much of it you require. This argument...
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    STAY AWAY FROM LED's!!!!!

    Well, It didn't take long for another LED titled thread to turn to shit. Prior to this bombardment, we were actually having a reasonable discussion. Then, it's he's a jerk, you're a jerk, he's a bigger jerk, you like to jerk, jam it, ram it, cram it , slam it. Holy fuck guys. It's a fucking...
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    STAY AWAY FROM LED's!!!!!

    Bob, very perceptive view on HID. Power is just another operating expense. Proportionally, it's really not that much...certainly less than trimming costs. But, speaking of bottom lines, IF the LED could produce HID quality/quantity buds, they, too, would pay for themselves quite fast. The higher...
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    20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

    Your buds look very nice. I like the electrical settup and the RDWC, as well. Unfortunately, I'm not looking for any help right now.
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    Current RDWC Hydrofarm Grandaddy from week 5

    Nice work. Very impressive dense buds.
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    20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

    I've always said "it's not a problem if there's no solution". It seems you're kind of on a negative, no one wins, just stop growing trip.
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    STAY AWAY FROM LED's!!!!!

    Absolutely not. If LEDs were half the price of HID I'd still use HID. Please show me these "outstanding grows" with LED. I have yet to see one commercial LED grow op that is on par with HID. Most of my closest friends are commercial growers. Most of us can afford to purchase whatever equipment...
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    20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

    Ok. Talk. I'm all ears.
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    20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

    I'm a firm believer that keeping the grow location as secret as possible is the best weapon. That, and the polar bear cage we have protecting our storefront door. It is a shame we're not afforded the same protection as other businesses. I would never call the police short of some sort of life...
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    STAY AWAY FROM LED's!!!!!

    Well, gang, this thread has come closer than any to having an LED discussion without people ending up all butt-hurt and threatening others with bodily harm. The LED discussion reminds me of any talk of the West Bank. I wonder why folks get so emotional about these lights. They're just fucking...
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    20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

    If I gave the impression that I consider my grow organic, I'm sorry. I consider my grow hydroponic with chem nutes. I will be trying to colonize a microheard in rockwool in the future. I do add some organic teas to my nute solution to broaden the nutrient source. The organic nutes I use are...
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    20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

    I'm not sure which pic you're refering to. The pair of lights against the wall are raised up because those plants just went into bloom. The HPS lights are quite a bit brighter than the MH's, and I like the plants to have a couple days to get used to being in the bloom room under the brighter...
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    20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

    First off, I prefer organic weed. I can taste a difference. When I grow outdoor, I grow organic. I've grown many live soil indoor grows, as well. Weed grown with chem nutes should not taste like chemicals. Many growers jam nutes down the plants throat and never flush. This would result in a...
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    STAY AWAY FROM LED's!!!!!

    You have some pics of your 20K grow? You can see mine in the link with my sig.
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    STAY AWAY FROM LED's!!!!!

    I really want LEDs to get to the point where we can use them. The cooling component of my power bill is probably $400+. You take that out and the bulb changes, before long I'd save enough money to repay just about any initial purchase price for the LEDs. I have a feeling induction lighting may...
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    STAY AWAY FROM LED's!!!!!

    I'm jealous of those power rates. I, too, run 20k, and my power bill is always around $2,000. I've been using Digilux bulbs now for about 6 months. I just tested them today, and they've only lost 5% lumens on the light meter. I am super stoked. I've used Hortis my whole life and never had that...
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    Lumen Degradation Test Results

    You folks can check out the results of all the lights on the thread in my sig.
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    Lumen Degradation Test Results

    Just a quick small test result for the group. I've been running 12 - 1000 watt Digilux HPS's, and 4 - 1000 watt Pulse Start MH's with Phantom Digital Ballasts for 6 months now. All the lights are air cooled with a 740cfm fan cooling 4 lights...2 daisy chains of 2 lights. I metered the lights...
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