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Cheers dude, ..i did a crazy trim right before switchin to 12 12.. am gonna wait until the first hair cluster flower tops appear and i will remove 60% of the fan leaves, and remove any weathered foliage etc... Then just let her do her thing... The airflow is good at the moment.. Intake is a 5...

Still no flowers yet .... - STELTHY:leaf: But her stem is getting insane !! Shes reaching up to her 3rd scrog screen already.. - STELTHY :leaf:

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Ive got a reptile UVa and UVb 10.0 t8 and a 395nm UV t10.. And have just ordered 2x 365nm UVA 36w led kingbo style lamps for side lighting in a 3x3...i may swap out the t10 UVA BP..in exchange for an HLG t5 7-30/70nm tube as I think that would be more useful, i am also using alot of other lights...

Anyone using the Optic LED Phantomm XL dimable ..??

Well.. I just bought another light a 54w Red 660nm IR 850nm LED PAR38 E27 LED Grow Lamp.. Couldnt resist getting more color depth - STELTHY :leaf:

You really seem to hate them LOL.. i have an idea for a behemouth led build.. But its over kill for most growers.. ..Ive been looking into military nautical and fighter jet led cobs etc... Some useful kelvin numbers ...insane power.. Admidibly they run hot but i am designing a cooltube inspied...

Expensive YES good qulity products YES ..if you can get it cheaper do so... you can get discount .. I just ordered the Phantom XL dimmable..manged to ge 20% off ...fuckin awesome light. Heres a thought though... If you knw which leds are in the Optic rig..why not source the parts and diodes and...

Mercury 365nm is the way to go... Not easy to find a kit though.. - STELTHY :leaf:

So, that'll make it 520w aprox. for the entire rig - STELTHY:leaf: EDIT !!! I just bought a 36w UVA 365nm to 370nm LED lamp similar to the Kingbro 660nm lamp I already have.. That takes me back up to 556w..but I may loose the UVbBP 35w which will put the rig down to 521w ... Lol... - STELTHY...

Instead of upto a 60w flood light ..i went for 2x 15w 3000k security led floodlights.. a meer 1200lm each... But thats effectively 2400lm cos they will be paralell and almost facing each other.. They are nice and small and hopefully if not a direct replacement for the clusters of CFLs.. Then...

...and a max. of 607w (for all top middle and lower tent lighting..) ... But that figure is subjective since the Phantom is dimmable and the UV lights arent full cycle 12/12 applient. So id say between 500w and 600w ...lets say 550w taking the av. Medium... - STELTHY:leaf:

Ok, well, let me see... once the 4th cob and phantomXL arrive and are installed and the 3x 30w CFLs have been removed.. I will be left with. :- 4x 54w 3500k Optic1 cobs 1x 104w 3500k dimmable Optic1 Phantom XL 1x 36w Kingbo 660 nm lamp 1x Low wattage green led 6w to 20w unknown wattage 1x 35w...

Good news, I have managed to buy the Optic1 Phantom XL Dimmable :) :) :) ...just gotta await its arrival now - STELTHY :leaf:

l I find a screen or net works fine on its own.....until she gets to a certain size...i like to do compact but fairly large scrog grows my current one completely fills a 3 x 3 in veg... As soon as i topped her for the 1st time at about 14 inches tall thats when I started to tie down the thicker...