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Dude. I answered every why, about water cooling. But, I can't ask you why?

I was about to say, side lights. :)

Yes, you believe and I don't know. You are loading the term counterfeit, as in, low quality. That is not my experience. And if Cree can make it, anyone can copy it, if you have the equivalent to the China National Labs at your disposal. It is ONLY about the phosphor layer as I understand it...

Thing to check is the lot code. Find out from Cree what happened to these.

If you are counterfeiting, best do it right.

But, Easter is over.

kingbrite.cn. You guys don't get the China connection. They back engineer it all. They have gotten to the level that these may be exactly the same. They ignore patents which are the height of Govt pick and choose. I swim in the US patent sea and it is bullshit. So, there is no mystery...

He is a self professed troll. And when that is proffered, I take it seriously. But, OTH< that is not all he is. He is a builder and a grower. I take that seriously. :)

Seriously over watering. But, just 3 words. :)

Take it to politics please.

I'll be growing corals as well. But, don't mind these guys. And remember it is you that supply the tone to our words. What difference does it make if you prefer authorized venders? None to me. And no one cares who was shot, who hates GMO, what number of plants we have. I totally agree. :)

Angela Angel is gay.....so... Niki? Is that her? I've never seen here do any dongs. New meds are weird. And I have some that say. DO NOT TAKE WITH ALCOHOL.

I think moving plants every few days is much easier than some contraption that can fail, and rain parts on the plants. Electrical slip rings? Have you looked at the efficiency? Please ask why. Why do we fall for it? If something sounds good, it might not be. So, I have to put "light...

Sound like good advice. I'll be right over. :)

Shit dude. All that automation means more work is done. And it takes more work to do more work. Planning, logistics and maintenance, rise to the top. Dealing with the GMO rep, and the hand waving hippies, is something Old Joe never had to deal with.

I got no place else to go!!!

Then you would be sucking the gravel right next to us.

I'm glad you are still here, making nice nice, girlfriend. :)

Yeah, there is active cooling of water thru a radiator and a water ballast tank, like I use. Of course you can add all kinds of hybrids to this, both active and passive. I had100 gals in the shade and it was good for sinking a 1000w hps. I wish I could tell you about your fan calculation. I...

I seem to be the only one that had fun? :) Fluster cluck is fun. :) Someone swooped in out of nowhere with vengeance about Cree jokes from another thread. He wrote a very heartwarming satire. That was fun...but I didn't read it.