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Dude just as i said

*EDITORS NOTE* Treeth i was refering to the HTG LEDS not the ones you make yourself as those are works of art and extreamly effective

206 you traiter!!! you went HPS on us.... I have been following this thread from start to finish and Treeth we cant say 100% that the 120W panel was the problem with the papaya. It could have been anything from genetics to the fact that no ventilation was used. Stagnant air proabably sat...

A big closet would be my dream.. i would be hooking up a 400W HPS on a light mover and diviiding that closet into 3 sections.. Completly line the closet with mylar and have a 12 or 24 plant drip or NFT system

Yes absoulutly.. any light from the "red" spectrum will screw your flowering period.... "red" light includes the sun, an incandescent light bulb, your TV, your PC monitor ( most likely)... *Sheets* arnt going to do it.. your going to want reflective material anyhow, i mean its not totally...

In desperate desperate times sure why not. Has anyone ever died from drinking the bong water?

When i say elevate the filter i mean elevate it inside the tent

In the situation you presented what would you do with the inline fan? I guess you would just suspend the inline fan to the top of the tent instead of the filter and push air instead of pull? Is that what you mean? Not a bad idea, not optimal but better then something that wont work at all.. plus...

I have a concern about my upcoming grow of vegetables .... :joint: I bought the CAN-33 Filter and it turns out this thing is a BEAST... i was expecting a small 12 pound filter.. here its this HUGE 2 foot wide 36 pound filter. Im having trouble finding a way to suspend this thing in the air ...

By adding more HPS lighting i mean... Especially if you are confined to a 3'x3' Space like me where adding more then a 400W HPS isnt possible.. the best way to upgrade for me would be to add LED and CFL lighting... Do you not agree? It all depends on the situation and what space is available.

More light is more light dude.. Especially with this type of plant. The specified RED and BLUE and WHITE specturms which CAN be used by plants with LEDS useing much less heat is the entire idea. You can burn your house down easily with HPS because the bulb gets so FUCKING hot. Im not trying to...

True True... i see your point. How about a stoneing to death?

Also just because you pimp your mother out for that "sensimilla" doesnt mean you are better than anyone else. I hope you go to jail LooooSer

Hiphop is dead fool.... Rock is king

Not everyone is growing at that large of a scale and judeing by this guy wanting to grow with one 50W LED panel i dont think he is planning on getting 48OZ's in a year. It is benifical for me to use LEDS and CFL lighting and my 250W HPS all together. You dont know that it wont produce more...

I have the following LED lights, And i plan to use them with the other lights mentioned during flowering 120W Triband LED 90W Triband LED 50W Triband LED panel 50W All Blue LED panel ( For Clones / Seedlings) I plan on using the 3 TRIband LEDS during flowering along with my 250W HPS...

Well the thing is ... LEDS are not magic... The claims that a 120W LED is equal to a 600W HPS is bogus.. yea maybe in veg but notwhere close in flower. 600W's of LED = 600W of HPS.. No matter how you look at it they are both gonna be using 600W's of power...Now the Lumens/watt will change...

The only thing that is desputed about LEDS is the fact that they are not strong enough to produce SOLID buds like HPS lights... This will be changed once the LED makers get thier heads out of their asses and realized that having one point of light useing LEDS is just retarded.. You need a bunch...

No no no no ... Dont listen to these guys that are not willing to give any information becides " OH LEDS SUCK, even though they have no experience with them whatsoever and they just spout hear-say. Do some research idiots.. The best lighting conditions are a mix of different technologies...

Actually your wrong. A great way to save on energy is germing your seeds, when they sprout stick them under an all blue LED panel... Then when they root stick them in the veg chamber whihch is a 120W Triband LED and a 50W triband Panel, Run the LED for 12HR a day and then the 250W HPS and LED...