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Also, from what I've seen, defoliating typically causes the lower buds to rise and compete with the main cola, such that no bud is ever dominate and they're all bigger. YMMV

What is your set up? I think it would make the most sense for someone who has their grow dialed in to try this. As in, someone who knows what their yield is every time , someone who is intimately familiar with their genetics... Is that you? Sent from my EVO using Rollitup mobile app

I think maybe a journal started by a brave soul would help in this forum. Journals can only be posted in by the OP, unless others are invited to post, correct? Maybe a defoliated grow, with proper method and good record keeping and no one posting in the thread but the OP would help us all out...

Also, a distinction needs to be made between pruning and defoliating. We're not talking about trimming/pruning a leaf. We are talking about aggressive removal of foliage, on a mass scale.

I think the idea is that defoliating is actually stimulating growth. So when done in veg, it stimulates the vegetative growth already occurring. When utilized in flower, after the stretch, it will stimulate bud production because that's what's growing. I think the plants, if defoliated in veg...

I would consider this, but it just doesn't make sense to me. Defoliating isn't taking away any of the light, in fact, it is allowing more light to penetrate. Yes, we've taken away many of the leaves but there are still plenty of green material for photosynthesis and either way, its not like any...

Omg this thread has suddenly become productive, what a wonderful thing! Good job everyone!

I was the one who claimed a shorter plant with closer nodes. Also I reread the whole thread, I didn't see the answer you spoke of. Maybe if you'd hold my hand through this? Thanks... Sent from my EVO using Rollitup mobile app

So, chuck. You initially believed that defoliating would hinder the plant right? That's why you didn't want newbs to try this method, very noble of you. Then, when neo posts pics of a plants that were defoliated surpassing a plant which kept all of its leaves, then you change your position and...

You claim to know the answer to the question already. Please enlighten us. Remember, we're promoting discussion on defoliating, not personally attacking each other... And also, you and I discussed earlier that having differing opinions isn't what causes drama, but you creating conflict is what...

@chuck, take your own advice @neo, do have more pics of those plants that you posted earlier? I'd like to see how they're doing if you don't mind. thanks

And BTW, the plant that had been defoliated could very well be more dense and have tighter nodes and still be taller.

That is a great question chuck. It really is. Maybe if we were able to have proper discourse and throw in some scientific method into the mix we could figure that out, instead of having 7/10 posts per page being attacks on certain users... I'd like to know the answer to the question just as...

I know, its hard to read through the bullshit. Then of course I became involved and now I'm part of the bullshit... It seems that the cycle continues ad nauseam

@neo Its like he's sticking his fingers in his ears and sticking the tongue out at the teacher and he and his friends think he's so cool... Sent from my EVO using Rollitup mobile app

Debate in a public forum often ends in frustration and ad hominem attacks... Chuck I can see you're frustrated but why don't you just shut your mouth and allow a discussion that you don't agree with to take place? I mean shit, are you saying that you don't have the self control to see...

@neo We may as well continue our discussion in private. That way the entire community can see our method and benefit. But wait, private messages can't be seen by others, which is why this discussion would ideally be located in the public part of the forum! But if we try to discuss anything in...

IMO, newbs who dabble with advanced cultivation techniques deserve to get burned. That link that you posted states that forum debates often end with frustration and ad hominem attacks. Seems about right...

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@ neo Have you been defoliating the ones in the front? And are the ones in the front the same age as the ones in the back? Thanks.