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idk you've changed a lot too you can't pin this all on him your an easier target now too sorry to say but it comes with the business choices if it was me i would have started an account for your business and start fresh but now they already have a "face" to go with your gimmicks

why do you think that is? Its a cob based light like any other well kind of idk i liked the idea of style but i wanted bigger chips then v18 i would like to see some under driven unit at some point

So now that's an acceptable answer? Come on guys you gotta tell them they are blowing it, just running the business into the ground! This is a sign these lights are done then right? .... You guys are 2fnmuch

i think for a lot of people I'm just here to learn how to grow some bud i don't really have a problem with AP either but now he's the face of his company and i wish he'd act that way be a little more professional instead of behind the curtain tactics

i know i can't believe how far everything has gone down hill since i started watching this site. O well let's bring the shit show on

I've seen the banner they pay but he does like tread in other companies waters

You guys are the ones still flying off the handle. ..troll me call me fan boi bitch moan do whatever you need to make you feel like your conversing about the light i just didn't want to see the same questions asked again with the same bashing but now I'm stuck in it and your so proud of being...

Well we've proved that we're all willing to overreact over a stupid light and you guys can tell me "told you so" in the next 2 weeks until then have fun growing without your light peace

judging by our exchange older then you

The point was i believed the guy who fashioned the lights had a lot of respect for this community and he listened and gave people a light for those who couldn't make one but all it took was less them a week off growing pains and this poor man trying to get ahead in life and then all these...

you guys are the ones counting chickens before they hatch...everybody just expects shit to happen over night

New owner new q.c. New website probably a new location new new new but nobody cares satisfaction now the American way. ..

optic grow light company was sold new ownership

is someone's financial gains for selling a company really the end? Could it be possibly that another larger company is moving in and it might take some time? Will the world end because optic is having growing pains! ?!

btw hoped this all helped you get your light it seemed very productive for you

look you start crying likea kid with out the right batman toy and now you won't let it go. Sorry i spoke up about a product that i believe in I'm also sorry that rui it's fill of illiterates with no comprehension skills and they need to be spoon feed everything. Sure i lost cuz i don't want to...

you threw a tantrum and called me every name you could think of and you didn't prove anything grow up you don't even understand what your buying your a big baby and you need to grow up dude your an over privilege child i hope they never offer your discount code

Ok cool dude whatever that all means and i could care less where it roots you your ignorance is very obvious in your posts I'm sick of feeding you i just didn't want people thinking optic is "flyby" cuz some troll can't figure how to find his light s do just cry some more post another response...

lolz good one except I've never even seen one of those lights in person anyways Amazon or not isn't it the same light from the same person.... yep grow up dude in fact you could be a big boy and diy with the rest of us