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  1. 8thGenFarmer

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    We are both against over use, but if you look at records of crop yields, you'll see the record is broken every year, has been for decades. Our yields go up up up, and the winners for the past 50-60 years have all been non-organic. Organic has its benefits, it's sustainable and it's...
  2. 8thGenFarmer

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    Did you read the article? The farmer was told he couldn't plant more Monsanto because he didn't cooperate with Monsanto. The farmer wasn't sued. He had been growing Monsanto seed he bought not from Monsanto, but from a seed cleaner, who procured it from other people's harvest. He was...
  3. 8thGenFarmer

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    We never grew gmo tomato, did corn. there aren't any gmo tomato yet, but I'm sure my family would be open to it. I grew up next to Amish folk, never sprayed anything on their fields either, but their yields without our advancements were 1/3 of ours per acre for beans and corn. We aren't...
  4. 8thGenFarmer

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    Dude, loved hearing it about the dams. If you look at the wiki page for California dams you'll see all California did was build those things through the late 1800's through the 50's. Then we just stopped doing any of it, and started removing em lol. Yup, salmons!
  5. 8thGenFarmer

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    The beheadings suck too though lol. Cali has been in drought for 6 years. My neighborhood looks like it's rd to burst into flames any moment. But I'm sticking around. Syria is a proxy war over oil pipelines is my theory. America once again supporting jihadi wars, because it helps us against old...
  6. 8thGenFarmer

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    They don't actually do that all the time. The only guys I know of in the United States who got sued replanted seed they harvested the prior year. they violated a contract they signed to not replant seed they buy. They wanted to save money on the planting next year. Monsanto proved in court that...
  7. 8thGenFarmer

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    I'm much more a pessimist about that. I've been to China and India, I don't see either country giving up fossil fuels for a hundred years. And since their population combined is almost 8x what ours is, what we change won't matter as much. We should lead by example, but I'd prepare for...
  8. 8thGenFarmer

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    They serve the people that put em in office, their donors :) I'd be pretty mad if I gave someone a million dollars and they DIDNT do what I wanted.
  9. 8thGenFarmer

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    The fairness doctrine was also a way to appear fair by pretending the only points of view are republican and democrat. You want a 30 percent corporate rate or a 33? They never gave us a real diversity of thought, a narrow spectrum of difference masquerading as real options. agreed the media are...
  10. 8thGenFarmer

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    My uncle builds methane generators at Dairies. They run off the methane from the cow shit which is stored in big vats outside, methane otherwise sneaks up and into the atmoshphere. I believe it's a win win. Free electric for farms, less pollution for all of us. That being said there isn't...
  11. 8thGenFarmer

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    I blame the gullible public primarily. The greedy public was told grocery prices could increase by a few percent and they weren't willing to give that up. That and they allowed themselves to be easily bullied. Distributors said they wouldn't sell in Cali if they had to label. I say bullshit, we...
  12. 8thGenFarmer

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    Not only that but batteries are quite toxic. Heavy metal laden. And the energy used to mine things like lithium is intense. Did you know every ton of coal contains a couple grams of uranium? Where does that go when we burn it? That's right, up the stack! There's also lead in there too...
  13. 8thGenFarmer

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    The people are the ones who voted against it where I live in Cali. We had mandatory labeling on the ballot. I was for mandatory labeling, even though I'm open minded to gmo. Hard to blame Monsanto for that one.
  14. 8thGenFarmer

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    One of my favorite stories about Dutch farming was the tulip investment bubble that arose in the 1600's. There are cautionary warning for all farmers in that. The intersection of politics, finance and agriculture. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_mania
  15. 8thGenFarmer

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    Hard to keep people from fucking bro, you'd probably have to hurt me to get me to have no interest lol.
  16. 8thGenFarmer

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    Yeah the Dutch collected all kinds of plants. They were explorers, and managed to get just about everywhere. Unfortunately people of the day did explore a little violently....but those guys also loved plants. They did help us with our Brexit which was very kind as well, good of you to point...
  17. 8thGenFarmer

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    My family always did field tomato. Ours ended up in tomato sauce, they didn't have to look perfect just be ripe and healthy. They were generally cooked and canned within 24 hr of being picked, so they were ripe when picked. If you want to sell it in the produce aisle then you grow...
  18. 8thGenFarmer

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    I haven't figured out how to up vote yet but agree with most of what you said. I hate how my family farm paid more tax every year than GE did for 15 years. They didn't pay tax for much of the 2000's. GE isn't evil though, they just happen to have really good tax lawyers, and we keep electing...
  19. 8thGenFarmer

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    Did you happen to see the automated greenhouse I posted earlier? Personally I think the Dutch have been absolutely killing it. Not a huge country but contributing way more than their share to the progress. The automated cloner machine will make 5000 cuts per hour! Sign me up. I'm lucky if I...
  20. 8thGenFarmer

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    Lol. Good one. I'm team Garry Johnson! Only pot entrepreneurs running, and was against the Iraq war when Hillary was for it. I liked Bernie but he's gone :(
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