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I couldn't agree more. Its why I never bought them.

Well do tell ol' mate! We're here to learn. The way I see it, system design is about about balance. In my mini split and air-cooled HPS trailer, the ac dehumidifies as well as two bigs Sante Fe's. My girls are sweating out 25 gallons of water a day.... Trying to deal with this in my...

Updates! Welding could use some work = )

This was the math I think I was referring to. You always seem to be a smart SOB. :bigjoint:

Thanks Organic Miner, It's people like yourself that drive me to give back to this site. Thank you for all the years of sharing your experiences to me.

We're working on, But cheap and water-cooling ........hmmmmmmm yeah, we're workin on it. The cheapest way really is to say fuck water-cooled lights and just water cool an LED lit room...... But wheres the fun in that. Boring! And, the big and, why can't the lights be the air handler as well...

Spoken from experience :bigjoint: Listen up

It doesn't even take that long. I forget the equation, But in testing 20 gallons on a 650w light was room temp from 50F in about 2 hrs.

I thought about this as well. Where I am at with it, I am using the water to adjust the temp of the room, I'm not so concerned with cooling LED's. Control the heat at it's point of source, then figure out where to send it.

If you'll scroll back a few pages, you'll see my BTC MINER that was 50 650w basic miners all passively cooled with two car radiators and a 24" fan.

Number 5 is the only change I made. I went with tinned stranded 18gau As you can see in the pic, where the little metal finger of the BJB holder strikes the cob, its not exactly on the money. In this pic you'll notice with the wire inserted it is cocked to the left.... Could have...

And what the fuck is up with these BJB holders being so finicky and the thermal pads.....these things are fuckin terribly delicate. definitely going back to thermal paste. These things have cost me 3 days of chasing open circuits!!!:cuss: :cuss::cuss:out of 24 cobs hooked up, 6 failed to light...

So @ttystikk, what would you do differently on your second room. We have different styles but environmental control is the same. It's seems from reading that you had a lil bit of hard time keeping the temp up. What would you do differently to fix that?

I'm Planning to twist aluminum tape the length of my lights. Straight shot water blocks offer TERRIBLE thermal transfer. And custom made turbulaters are unrealistically expensive.

Just wandered in! The Game is real here! Pulled up a seat! @stardustsailor and @NoFucks2Give Thank you for all you're contributions. Fckin schools in session!

Woohoo Steel ordered

Piping routed, but still needs valves etc

I'm trying to link up with you in person and give you a lil tour of our facility. As you can see here in this thread, many other's as well as your self have contributed to an interesting build by way of knowledge. I'm just simply extending the hand to another friend. We might be of mutual...

Yes I definitely had this problem...hahahahhahahaha!

I didn't ever notice it making that big of a difference. When we cooled this thing last winter It didn't seem to matter that we were pulling thru the radiator. I froze it up last winter cooling this do to low glycol content and lack of it being wired to temp sensor. But it crushed it hard. I...