100 gallon smart pots indoors

GreenSanta

GreenSanta

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I am currently harvesting a plant she is the 3 rd or 4 th one in my SIP, with simply adding more mulch and compost on top every round. Every round has produced a beautiful heavy harvest. I will finish harvesting tonight and tomorrow, transplant a new plant, top dress mulch and its going to be the 4th or 5th round with the container not moving an inch. The fact that each of the 3-4 rounds have produced some of the most fire weed I have ever grown, Id be ok if this time it goes to shit and if it does I ll move it aside for a couple months.

The way I like to do it with 7-10 gallon is after harvest I dump the soil in a pile which will eventually be re-ammendended with vermicasting compost I simply re-fill from a pile that has already been sitting for a while and has been re-ammended. Some of the soil in my mix is the same as when I started 6-7 years ago. Only there is more of it now.

I used to buy plain promix for cuttings and seeds but I dont bother anymore, my clones are on a clone king aero (or hydro??) ponic system and the minute they show roots they go in my re-cycled supersoil mix ... I also start my seeds in it now. once in a while a section of the soil might be too hot and the seed wont pop, oh well, I make them seeds...

I dont have a recipe, its always different, I dont keep track of what I do anymore , it's too simple, mulch, worms, compost ...
 
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ttystikk

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GreenSanta said:
in my experience more soil = more buds even if you dont increase the light, a lot more buds... my biggest yields ever are coming out of my 30-40 gallons SIP. But I do like having the freedom to move my pots as I please and my SIPs are nearly impossible to move so I like to have a mix of both in the grow room. I think you can achieve a nice microherd in smallish pots (7 ish + Gallons) but you have to start over almost every round where as you probably plan to keep your 100 gallons pots in the grow room round after round right?
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How big are your biggest yields coming out of 30-40 gallon SIPS tubs? Pounds?

My best pull in soilless to date is 25 oz from a 5 gallon bucket. :shock: Since I'm guessing that's more or less maxing things out (!) I went with a SIPS approach with ten gallon tubs and an 8" netpot bucket lid to use as a soil wick to draw up nutrient water.

In your opinion, do you believe I can pull over two lb plants with such an approach? How close could I come to three?
 
GreenSanta

GreenSanta

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ttystikk said:
How big are your biggest yields coming out of 30-40 gallon SIPS tubs? Pounds?

My best pull in soilless to date is 25 oz from a 5 gallon bucket. :shock: Since I'm guessing that's more or less maxing things out (!) I went with a SIPS approach with ten gallon tubs and an 8" netpot bucket lid to use as a soil wick to draw up nutrient water.

In your opinion, do you believe I can pull over two lb plants with such an approach? How close could I come to three?
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I have no idea! all I can say is that in the SIPs the plants are much bigger than what I normally grow, a lot of meat on them. Most rounds I had 2 plants in the SIP averaging 12-18 ounces total (canopy roughly 3x3), I am not even sure, I dont weight my weed. All I know is that the plants have big nugs top to bottom, super vigorous and super frosty. The main thing is how low maintenance they are and judging by the looks of things, they yield way more per sq ft than my other method. BUT after harvest, I transplant and I do have a week or 2 where the lights are hitting a little bit of soil or floor where as with 7-10 gallons run there is no down time for me whatsoever, the lights are hitting 80% + plant canopy.
 
Vnsmkr

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GreenSanta said:
I used to buy plain promix for cuttings and seeds but I dont bother anymore, my clones are on a clone king aero (or hydro??) ponic system and the minute they show roots they go in my re-cycled supersoil mix ... I also start my seeds in it now. once in a while a section of the soil might be too hot and the seed wont pop, oh well, I make them seeds...
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Fucking hell dude, we sound like clones lol except for the cloner...going to make one of those soon
 
DonBrennon

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I like the idea of companion planting/living mulch in big ass pots and do intend to do it indoors some time. Been experimenting with my big outdoor planters(fruit trees and veg) and my favourites so far are creeping thyme and indian mint, they really spread out horizontally giving great ground cover over the soil or mulch. My only concern with the indian mint would be that it can be quite vigorous, but I'd imagine both would also help deter pests.

Hey @Vnsmkr , be interesting to see how those comfrey plants do in your climate, have you popped any of those yet? I never tried germin'g em', so don't know if they're viable
 
GreenSanta

GreenSanta

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Don't start comfrey from seeds, I would for sure buy plugs or roots and start the russian sterile varieties which multiply via roots division only. They are called bocking 4 and bocking 14, can be purchased at Richters. I was told the non sterile variety can take over acres in no time if u accidently let it go to seeds...
 
Rasta Roy

Rasta Roy

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GreenSanta said:
I am currently harvesting a plant she is the 3 rd or 4 th one in my SIP, with simply adding more mulch and compost on top every round. Every round has produced a beautiful heavy harvest. I will finish harvesting tonight and tomorrow, transplant a new plant, top dress mulch and its going to be the 4th or 5th round with the container not moving an inch. The fact that each of the 3-4 rounds have produced some of the most fire weed I have ever grown, Id be ok if this time it goes to shit and if it does I ll move it aside for a couple months.

The way I like to do it with 7-10 gallon is after harvest I dump the soil in a pile which will eventually be re-ammendended with vermicasting compost I simply re-fill from a pile that has already been sitting for a while and has been re-ammended. Some of the soil in my mix is the same as when I started 6-7 years ago. Only there is more of it now.

I used to buy plain promix for cuttings and seeds but I dont bother anymore, my clones are on a clone king aero (or hydro??) ponic system and the minute they show roots they go in my re-cycled supersoil mix ... I also start my seeds in it now. once in a while a section of the soil might be too hot and the seed wont pop, oh well, I make them seeds...

I dont have a recipe, its always different, I dont keep track of what I do anymore , it's too simple, mulch, worms, compost ...
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Very nice! That's more or less my plan, I'm just gonna keep adding worm castings and mulch. I want to have it so I'm never adding anything that I had to buy or isn't waste that's been repurposed.
 
Rasta Roy

Rasta Roy

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GreenSanta said:
Don't start comfrey from seeds, I would for sure buy plugs or roots and start the russian sterile varieties which multiply via roots division only. They are called bocking 4 and bocking 14, can be purchased at Richters. I was told the non sterile variety can take over acres in no time if u accidently let it go to seeds...
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That's exactly what I want...Where do I get these seeds????? And do you really mean acres, cause I'll be disappointed if it isn't lol.
 
NaturalFarmer

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GreenSanta said:
Don't start comfrey from seeds, I would for sure buy plugs or roots and start the russian sterile varieties which multiply via roots division only. They are called bocking 4 and bocking 14, can be purchased at Richters. I was told the non sterile variety can take over acres in no time if u accidently let it go to seeds...
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If anyone needs any in the spring shoot me a pm and I'll send you a growing shoot. You can make a 100 in a few years if you plant near a compost bin or feed it a lot. Bocking 14 can have a 9' tap, I think the native variety is half that
 
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NaturalFarmer

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Here is a nice mix if you do get those hives. I was going to get a hive last summer and was learning from a guy and got stung inside the eardrum from one of his bees, so I said fuck that until my nuts grow bigger (Cannabis honey sounds like a hit though)

I guess in the city all flowers should welcomed, so if you prefer comfrey I say have at it.

"Consisting of anise hyssop, bee balm, borage, calendula, california poppy, cilantro, dill, fennel, mustard, parsley and phacelia, this mix will be sure to please a diverse abundance of insect helpers."

https://www.fedcoseeds.com/seeds/search?item=5804
 
Jaybodankly

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Worms have a place in my garden. They have survived five mass extinctions and will survive the next. Worms are not native to the US. They were mostly brought by colonists. I knew an old guy who told us his grandfather used to play in last of the old growth forest in New England. He said the forest floor was so thick with forest duff it was hard to move around. It would accumulate rather than be eaten by worms.
 
NaturalFarmer

NaturalFarmer

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Jaybodankly said:
Worms have a place in my garden. They have survived five mass extinctions and will survive the next. Worms are not native to the US. They were mostly brought by colonists. I knew an old guy who told us his grandfather used to play in last of the old growth forest in New England. He said the forest floor was so thick with forest duff it was hard to move around. It would accumulate rather than be eaten by worms.
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If you are near Groton, VT there is a couple acre (maybe more) stand of old growth that a wealthy guy saved back in the day. Yellow birch, maple 400yo is what I remember but maybe others too.............


18. Lords Hill Natural Area. 25 acres, Groton State Forest, Town of Marshfield. This is a fine old-growth stand of hemlock-northern hardwoods on the slopes of Lords Hill. The site contains many large specimens of white ash, sugar maple, red maple, basswood, yellow birch, beech, red spruce, balsam fir, and hophornbeam. It is surrounded by privately-owned property and permission to cross is needed to gain access to this Natural Area.
 
DonaldJTrump

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very nice setup! Few questions?

1) Have you considerered hydro? You will be wasting 0 water. You will not have to lug water. And the plants will grow much beter in smaller containter/plant space

2) if insiting on soil, have you considered putting sand on top of the soil? Every soil grow I have done and see has containted some sort of bugs that get stuck in the buds. Sometimes pests too. They come out of the soil. Sand on top kills them all. Makes everything look clean and pretty too.

Just talking from exp. sucks to run for 8-12 weeks soil just to chop with bugs and fuckery due to not putting some sand on em
 
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