12/12 From Seed Experiment - 21 Strains

Hot Diggity Sog

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Beginning Harvest Pictures

I've got all of the top's hanging up and I'll go in for a closer trim in a few days. I cut down the rest of the plants and took what I thought was at least decent regarding stuff under the top cola. Ended up with quite a bit more than I expected. Wish I could hire someone to trim that :)

Looking at them under incandescent light instead of HPS/MH and the quality looks to be there. Not nearly as sub-par as I originally stated. Once I get a better trim and a good cure it should end up OK. I'm going for a super slow hang again as that worked awesome last time. I'm manually turning on and the dehumidifier as needed to really slow down this process.

Once stuff starts getting their 2nd trim and is dry enough to jar I'll get another update. I bought (4) 2 1/2 gallon jars and man are they big. Can't wait to use them.

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Silky T

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Chapter 2 Update
Day 114 Part #1
Flowering Day 71
Chronic Thunder Tub ~ 49Plants
Skunk #1 Tub ~ 49 Plants


This will be a 2 part update as I have a lot of pictures to share. Many of the Skunk #1's are swelling nicely and I plan on starting to harvest them beginning Wednesday. The Chronic Thunders are still growing but have not started to swell. Once they do, there are going to be some giants....not a lot but some.

I rotated the Skunk #1 tub 180 degrees so the 1/2 that were under the MH mainly are now under the HPS and vice versa.

These first pictures are group and canopy shots. The follow-up will be some close-ups. It's very easy to tell what is what. The Chronic Thunders have many more pistols than the Skunk #1's and the Skunk #1's have way more resin.

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What does 12/12 from seed mean? You have "Day 114, Flowering Day 71" so I'm confused. I'm also a newbie. I have a friend who's doing 12/12 from seed and he went from seed to harvest on 12/12, no veg. I'm really confused. It looks like the simplest, most stress-free way to go because you don't have to be there to babysit them all the time like I do.
 

Hot Diggity Sog

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What does 12/12 from seed mean? You have "Day 114, Flowering Day 71" so I'm confused. I'm also a newbie. I have a friend who's doing 12/12 from seed and he went from seed to harvest on 12/12, no veg. I'm really confused. It looks like the simplest, most stress-free way to go because you don't have to be there to babysit them all the time like I do.
Day 114, Flowering Day 71 meant it's been 114 days since the seeds went into rockwool and 71 days since the 1st set of pistols were seen. 12/12 from seed simply means from the moment the seed is germinated, the light schedule is set to 12 on 12 off. The obviously won't start flowering until they are sexually mature but there is no "Veg" period in the traditional sense using 18/6 or 24/0.
 

Silky T

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Day 114, Flowering Day 71 meant it's been 114 days since the seeds went into rockwool and 71 days since the 1st set of pistols were seen. 12/12 from seed simply means from the moment the seed is germinated, the light schedule is set to 12 on 12 off. The obviously won't start flowering until they are sexually mature but there is no "Veg" period in the traditional sense using 18/6 or 24/0.
For a newbie, this is valuable info. I didn't know it could be done until this week.
 

Silky T

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Day 114, Flowering Day 71 meant it's been 114 days since the seeds went into rockwool and 71 days since the 1st set of pistols were seen. 12/12 from seed simply means from the moment the seed is germinated, the light schedule is set to 12 on 12 off. The obviously won't start flowering until they are sexually mature but there is no "Veg" period in the traditional sense using 18/6 or 24/0.
This is also confusing because I have 4 in flower and 5 in veg and they were all germinated the same week. Some are no bigger than a 1-2 week old and they are the same strains that grew normally to nearly a foot in 28 days. See (photo attached). So from day one to begin veg was also about a month? Am I still confused?
 

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Hot Diggity Sog

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This is also confusing because I have 4 in flower and 5 in veg and they were all germinated the same week. Some are no bigger than a 1-2 week old and they are the same strains that grew normally to nearly a foot in 28 days. See (photo attached). So from day one to begin veg was also about a month? Am I still confused?
That is interesting. So these are all 28 days old and you've been running a 12/12 light cycle the whole time?
 

Silky T

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That is interesting. So these are all 28 days old and you've been running a 12/12 light cycle the whole time?
No, no, I haven't, I was talking about somebody else. I'm running 4 on 12/12 and 5 on 18/6 and yes, they are all 28 days, give or take a day or two. I was talking about the fact that I'm not following the 12/12 thing unless you put the seed in and then day 40-something, started 12/12 because of the dicrespancy between 114 and 71. I'm misunderstanding. I would think it would be about a week of germination, then 12/12, that way you'd have only one week difference in Day 114 Part #1, Flowering Day 71 instead of 41 days- what was going on those 41 days?
The reason I am wondering about this is the fact that I put my seeds in on May 1 (ordered on 4/20/15 from Nirvana). Some of the seeds popped right off the bat and some never came up at all and some all days in between. That's why I had to plant all 20. I would wait for a few days, then nothing, then plant 3 more and some would come up and sometimes none. But my point is that there are so many different days I could say I went in veg because all but 4 of the 20 came up at different times. That's why I have 4 big ones and those little ones you see in the pic. There's not a 41-day difference in my good ones and my little ones, but it does happen I see, I think.

I've never had any problems germinating or even just planting the seed in soil and it growing when I was growing outside. It just always seemed to come up. Some ppl on here say that Nirana seeds are "hit and miss" and I definitely got some "miss" ones :wall:. I find it odd that my 5 little ones are going into the flower cave a month or more behind the first 4 that were all planted around the same time (hence the 71 v. 114 discussion) It sucks. But then, it's given me an idea. I guess, since I have a second grow coming in behind the first one that now's the time to learn how to cut and grow clones. Then I could just keep it going FOREVER. Can I get a ballpark on how much a pound goes for primo weed? Both to pharmacies and street value. I'm just curious. I've dealt with other stuff but I find weed not only interesting but legal. bongsmilie EXHALE. :P:peace:
 

Silky T

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Beginning Harvest Pictures

I've got all of the top's hanging up and I'll go in for a closer trim in a few days. I cut down the rest of the plants and took what I thought was at least decent regarding stuff under the top cola. Ended up with quite a bit more than I expected. Wish I could hire someone to trim that :)

Looking at them under incandescent light instead of HPS/MH and the quality looks to be there. Not nearly as sub-par as I originally stated. Once I get a better trim and a good cure it should end up OK. I'm going for a super slow hang again as that worked awesome last time. I'm manually turning on and the dehumidifier as needed to really slow down this process.

Once stuff starts getting their 2nd trim and is dry enough to jar I'll get another update. I bought (4) 2 1/2 gallon jars and man are they big. Can't wait to use them.

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I forgot to tell you how yummy these looked. Jeez. That is some awesome looking weed. I noticed your clones. They look like you start them with just a stem and no leaves whatsoever? Do the plants grow differently when you do that rather than a stem with one or two fan leaves?
 

Silky T

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Beginning Harvest Pictures

I've got all of the top's hanging up and I'll go in for a closer trim in a few days. I cut down the rest of the plants and took what I thought was at least decent regarding stuff under the top cola. Ended up with quite a bit more than I expected. Wish I could hire someone to trim that :)

Looking at them under incandescent light instead of HPS/MH and the quality looks to be there. Not nearly as sub-par as I originally stated. Once I get a better trim and a good cure it should end up OK. I'm going for a super slow hang again as that worked awesome last time. I'm manually turning on and the dehumidifier as needed to really slow down this process.

Once stuff starts getting their 2nd trim and is dry enough to jar I'll get another update. I bought (4) 2 1/2 gallon jars and man are they big. Can't wait to use them.

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Your statement, "Wish I could hire someone to trim that :)" In 2012 a friend of ours asked us to come out and help him trim his first harvest. He had 10 acres (40 acres total) in in Telluride, Colorado. We took a week and went out and it was a gorgeous trip. We'd trim from around 11 pm to the wee hours of the morning, in the basement and hung out during the day. It was in the Rockies so there was a lot to do. The house actually had a "trap basement" whereas, the door was in the middle of the living room floor under an oriental rug. I think it was an addition to the house-- really cool. Anyway, even tho we were friends, he still paid my CL husband and I each $200 a day, so we came home with an extra $2000 for the week and a pound followed us a week later of 12 different strains. We listened to Bob Marley all night, smoked and trimmed and it was great. He wanted us to come back out when Stewart finished this job that was due to complete in December (he had his stoke in November) and we were going back to live. He was going to give us 10 of his 40 acres. It would have been a great retirement if only he could have held out one more month, I'll bet you everthing I own that he wouldn't have had that stroke had we gone to Colorado. What do you think? No stress, smoke weed, go skiing, the easy life for a change instead of working at Exxon 7 days a week, 12 hours a day, getting up at 3:30 in the morning, cooking breakfast with my eyes closed. It sucks. He could have started out as one of the security guards to chill before we did a grow. In Colorado, there were three guys with shotguns who took 8-hour shifts up at the grow. There was a 5th wheel parked on the property. Pretty cool setup. One of the guys that helps with security raises goats for cheese. And that was some of the best cheese I've ever eaten. The goats wander around the mountains while he's working. Didn't mean to go all off on that but when you said that, it reminded me. I type so fast that sometimes I don't realize how much I've said. (I was a paralegal for 33 years, comes with the job.) Ciao!bongsmilie:peace:
 

Hot Diggity Sog

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Your statement, "Wish I could hire someone to trim that :)" In 2012 a friend of ours asked us to come out and help him trim his first harvest. He had 10 acres (40 acres total) in in Telluride, Colorado. We took a week and went out and it was a gorgeous trip. We'd trim from around 11 pm to the wee hours of the morning, in the basement and hung out during the day. It was in the Rockies so there was a lot to do. The house actually had a "trap basement" whereas, the door was in the middle of the living room floor under an oriental rug. I think it was an addition to the house-- really cool. Anyway, even tho we were friends, he still paid my CL husband and I each $200 a day, so we came home with an extra $2000 for the week and a pound followed us a week later of 12 different strains. We listened to Bob Marley all night, smoked and trimmed and it was great. He wanted us to come back out when Stewart finished this job that was due to complete in December (he had his stoke in November) and we were going back to live. He was going to give us 10 of his 40 acres. It would have been a great retirement if only he could have held out one more month, I'll bet you everthing I own that he wouldn't have had that stroke had we gone to Colorado. What do you think? No stress, smoke weed, go skiing, the easy life for a change instead of working at Exxon 7 days a week, 12 hours a day, getting up at 3:30 in the morning, cooking breakfast with my eyes closed. It sucks. He could have started out as one of the security guards to chill before we did a grow. In Colorado, there were three guys with shotguns who took 8-hour shifts up at the grow. There was a 5th wheel parked on the property. Pretty cool setup. One of the guys that helps with security raises goats for cheese. And that was some of the best cheese I've ever eaten. The goats wander around the mountains while he's working. Didn't mean to go all off on that but when you said that, it reminded me. I type so fast that sometimes I don't realize how much I've said. (I was a paralegal for 33 years, comes with the job.) Ciao!bongsmilie:peace:
Telluride is gorgeous. My dad took me there many times when I was younger to ride dirt bikes in the mountains.
 

Silky T

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Some strains are sensitive to high levels of P and K, and will start flowering.
I've got to print out that page with the pics of the leaves that tell you what they need. Although some can be confusing. Like what makes them droop. Some say overwatering and on the other end of the spectrum, some say too much water. Throw a blonde in that equation and stir.
 

Silky T

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Beginning Harvest Pictures

I've got all of the top's hanging up and I'll go in for a closer trim in a few days. I cut down the rest of the plants and took what I thought was at least decent regarding stuff under the top cola. Ended up with quite a bit more than I expected. Wish I could hire someone to trim that :)

Looking at them under incandescent light instead of HPS/MH and the quality looks to be there. Not nearly as sub-par as I originally stated. Once I get a better trim and a good cure it should end up OK. I'm going for a super slow hang again as that worked awesome last time. I'm manually turning on and the dehumidifier as needed to really slow down this process.

Once stuff starts getting their 2nd trim and is dry enough to jar I'll get another update. I bought (4) 2 1/2 gallon jars and man are they big. Can't wait to use them.

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I see a lot of nugs in that top photo.
 
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