12/12 From Seed Experiment - 21 Strains

Path of Light

Path of Light

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Diggity i agree u got some SERIOUS DIY skills & a great wife that is patient with u while u zero in on the best setup that works for u.If u gor the space I would def try the perptual with seeding or clone to cut ur harvest time down.enjoy watching ur grows.BTW what was ur final dried weight when u grew in the 2 totes?
 
Hot Diggity Sog

Hot Diggity Sog

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Path of Light said:
Diggity i agree u got some SERIOUS DIY skills & a great wife that is patient with u while u zero in on the best setup that works for u.If u gor the space I would def try the perptual with seeding or clone to cut ur harvest time down.enjoy watching ur grows.BTW what was ur final dried weight when u grew in the 2 totes?
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The 2 totes only yielded like 13 or 14 ounces. A very big disappointment.
 
Hot Diggity Sog

Hot Diggity Sog

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Alaric said:
Hey HDS,

IMO, out designs share the same primary concept------how to get the most plant material exposed to the light/s.
Do you agree?

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This is how I handled the plant training----the bottom limbs (in bottom tubes) are trained outward and the upper limbs trained upward-----even though there is three 1ks in that "tunnel"------the effective light from each light is ~600 watt with a hood.

In your case, I suggest trying a screen between the lights and your tubes-----it probably could just be stood up---if not----hung from the ceiling----just make sure your hands/arms will fit through.

Do you know the total yield from last crop?

A~~~
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Walk me thru this picture. You say this has (3) 1K's? The plants appear to be way too close to the bulbs. What is the length of the tubes in that picture and exactly how far away is the bulb from plant material?

To answer your question, yes...of course!
 
Alaric

Alaric

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Hot Diggity Sog said:
Walk me thru this picture. You say this has (3) 1K's? The plants appear to be way too close to the bulbs. What is the length of the tubes in that picture and exactly how far away is the bulb from plant material?

To answer your question, yes...of course!
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Hey HDS,

Sometimes I'm a little concerned I'm too intrusive into your thread----if so----I apologize.

To answer your questions, the tubes are 10' x 6" schedule 40 pvc. In that shot----yes---some canopy parts a little to close so I just spread the tubes apart a little.

The distance from the lights to the canopy I try to shoot for is 16" - 12" ( with 12" being at 10k fc which is full sunlight intensity). I had to use cool tubes, 8" blower and 15000 BTU window ac to cool the the flower room (Fl). I could rest my hand on the cool tubes----warm but not hot.

If you're interested in the details of that pic----in my journal (in my sig) beginning page 3, post 55.

Thank you for letting us ride along with you on your journey. I assume everyone that has responded to your thread-----wishes you much success and loads of fun.

A~~~
 
Hot Diggity Sog

Hot Diggity Sog

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Just a quick update....pretty bad news to report. Hoping you guys can shed some light on how bad it is. Apparently when I switched from the single 1000 Watt to 2 600's, I did not double check both of my timers and one of them was set to the ON position instead of the T position. One of the 2 lights has been on 24 hours a day for approximately 10 days now. Today is day 44 and day 1 of flowering typically would have been around day 34. How bad is this?
 
Sativied

Sativied

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So they basically had 24 hours per day light for the past 10 days, of which 12 hours per day only one bulb was on? If that's the case, then besides the obvious time delay I don't really see a major problem. Considering you're still vegging. The first pistils are a sign of maturity, and doesn't really mean they are flowering yet. They mature on veg schedule including 24hrs light too (if not faster). Point is, they should transition to flowering faster now that you basically vegged them first. Just as you will get more 'plant' now, you'll get a lot more roots now they will still have to transition to flowering, might be something to keep an eye on.
 
Hot Diggity Sog

Hot Diggity Sog

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Sativied said:
So they basically had 24 hours per day light for the past 10 days, of which 12 hours per day only one bulb was on? If that's the case, then besides the obvious time delay I don't really see a major problem. Considering you're still vegging. The first pistils are a sign of maturity, and doesn't really mean they are flowering yet. They mature on veg schedule including 24hrs light too (if not faster). Point is, they should transition to flowering faster now that you basically vegged them first. Just as you will get more 'plant' now, you'll get a lot more roots now they will still have to transition to flowering, might be something to keep an eye on.
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Man, I sure hope so. I feel better after reading that. I'm so embarrassed I almost did not post this.
 
Mohican

Mohican

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We all are constantly learning. The more mistakes we share, the more we all learn. I go randomly check on my lights all the time now.

I want to get cameras like @GroErr has.

Hydro killed me because I was checking everything every 30 minutes. When I didn't - something would go wrong.

Now you see why I am able to put up with the outdoor bugs and rain so easily!
 
Sativied

Sativied

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Hot Diggity Sog said:
Man, I sure hope so. I feel better after reading that. I'm so embarrassed I almost did not post this.
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Pretty sure we all do things like that occassionally. Had my timers on On instead of clock/auto/T more than once. When I transitioned last round I went from 18/6 to several days 12/12, then several days 18/6 again before sticking with 12/12...
 
Alaric

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Sativied said:
Pretty sure we all do things like that occassionally. Had my timers on On instead of clock/auto/T more than once. When I transitioned last round I went from 18/6 to several days 12/12, then several days 18/6 again before sticking with 12/12...
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I'm guilty of that also----talk about confused plants. Girls got mad and some even grew nanners-----not fun.

HDS, hang in there. IMO, most if not all veteran weed growers have their own "accidental experiment/s".

A~~~
 
Hot Diggity Sog

Hot Diggity Sog

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Chapter 4 Update
Day 51

Things are going great still. I did the very first rez change 4 or 5 days ago. As it turns out, I waited just a little longer than I should have but I really wanted to know how long I could go. The girls experienced a little bit of problems due to that but nothing major. The care I took at the beginning is really paying off. The root system for each plant is just insane and unlike last time where perhaps 2/3rds of the plants did not do well because of immature roots and shading from neighbors, virtually all of them are thriving. Increasing the side to side spacing from 5 1/2 inches to 8 inches is making a huge difference. And the row spacing is also paying off. So as I mentioned a few posts back, I had decided to top all of the plants one time. This slowed them down just a little bit not bad at all. Over the last 10 days or so, I have been doing selective pruning on all of the plants removing nearly all of the small weak side branches. This is something that I will continue to do.

I've been running my nutrient strength within a tight range and I've found the sweet spot where the amount of nutes are being consumed at the perfect rate. When I do top-off's, I bring the PPM's up to 560/570 and I let them get as low as 500 but no less. All of the leaf curling I saw last time is a thing of the past. They are perfectly healthy. I am waiting to report on what day of flowering they are on until I have more to go on. That 10 day fuck up where the lights were on 24/7 certainly slowed this but I don't think by that much. If I had to guess today, I would say flowering day #10 based on how they look which is really only about 1 week behind schedule.

I've been running (2) 600 Watt HPS for quite a while but decided to put the 1000 Watt HPS in and see how that looks running by itself. It looked pretty good but not quite enough light to go from top to bottom. I'm not sure if I want to run 1600 Watts but I said what the hell...we'll see how it looks. So I have a 1000 Watt HPS on top and a 600 Watt HPS on the bottom. The area is very well lit right now. The space could certainly allow for (2) 1000's but I don't think I will do this.

The room smells like it is in full flower even though all we have is a few pistols. Very encouraging!

My new reservoir change strategy will be one change every 2 weeks. I will PH to 6.5 and drop it by 0.1 each top off until it is at 5.8 and then let it remain there until the next change.
Just to recap...I am keeping things very very simple. Aqua Flakes A&B, Dutch Master ZONE and PH Down...Nothing else.

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Alaric

Alaric

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Hot Diggity Sog said:
Chapter 4 Update
Day 51

Over the last 10 days or so, I have been doing selective pruning on all of the plants removing nearly all of the small weak side branches. This is something that I will continue to do.

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^^Bravo :clap:

Imo, screams for two 1ks (if you can control the heat).

I usually notice a growth spurt after a rez flush and reload.

A~~~
 
Hot Diggity Sog

Hot Diggity Sog

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Alaric said:
^^Bravo :clap:

Imo, screams for two 1ks (if you can control the heat).

I usually notice a growth spurt after a rez flush and reload.

A~~~
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It totally could. I could easily have 4 rows with (2) 1K's and possibly even 5 but 5 would probably be pushing it. It's getting colder here so heat is not an issue. The range over the last 3 days has been 62 low during lights off and 68 during lights on. My readings are outside of the octagon...inside it is quite a bit warmer but the fan prevents it from getting hot. With the 600 and 1000, the room temp has gone up from 68 to 72.
 
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