12/12 from seed?

jimmygreenfingers

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The op rekons he's got "a very good knowledge of growing, based on science and experience". I think not lol. 12/12 from seed rocks mate, id think twice about posting crap cause you've just made yourself look like a right penis.
 

seamore green

Active Member
Plus that to jimmy and del, they got 12/12 on lock down. I've been doing it for a wile now as well, 1 plant per week starting july 1st, harvest 1/week coming october. Good results so far with vanilla kush, blue widow, super lemon haze, industrial plant and critical plus is on its way. Its more so keeping them small than anything for me. I'm getting varied maturity times depending on strain but vanilla kush was 18 days, super lemon haze was 21 days.
 

rocpilefsj

Misguided Angel
Don't knock it till you try it! I guarantee you put up an experienced grower from 12/12 against a newb with a 1-2 month veg time and the experience will prevail everytime. What's next, a LST is the dumbest training method ever thread?
 

cary schellie

Active Member
so what about plants growing at the equator?year round they get 12/12 or close. if you start a plant at 12/12,it will switch to flowering when it is mature enough to do so.I dont but it is a a viable technique.
i didnt know the equator only gets 12/12 i guess i should of paid more attention in school
 

del66666

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isn't thc bomber one of the highest yielding strains
thc bomb has fem and reg...the fem gives mostly a fat main cola with solid buds....quick and early flowerer.............the thc reg is more sativa, big buds, smothered in thc, slightly airy resiny buds........both are very nice smokes..........now they have big bomb which is a step up in my opinion.........
 
12-12 was only the standard flowering time given so that all strains from no matter what region they originate from will flower under that light period
the amount of critical darkness needed to induce flowering can be as little as 9.5 hours for some indica strains rather than the standard 12 hours of darkness

growing larger sativa strains 12-12 from seed is advised as one of the methods to help control the height of of the plant and keep it more manageable

i often notice pre-flowers while plants are growing in veg, at around 5 weeks onward

i think weather you give them 12-12 from seed would depend on what the strain is .. if it was a haze strain that was expected to get very big it might be a good idea to do this

there are lots of threads around on this subject most of them lean towards giving the seed atleast 1-2 weeks of veg, if its an indica dom strain
or the plant will be small and yield much less .. i normally veg mine for at least 4 weeks
Woody: I think they're all proving your point is indirect, kinda like how crooked politicians tell you one things and draw pretty pictures & slogans, but in reality something completely different is /will happen/ing. Hopefully some supporting pics can clear this up.

Most experienced growers will tell you and should have proof on hand:) to show that starting a seed in more-light+less-darkens yields a plumper, heavier, more delicious bud than other more even ratios of light&darkness. I have first hand knowledge that 24hours light for a bit more than 3 weeks from placing a germed seed into soil, will stimulate tremendous growth and be rooting grounds for a successful plant and hopefully harvest. (THE POINT) Being that this is my friends setup, I observed them take the seed, place it in distilled water...a couple days latter we had it germ(inated) and in a small 2.5"x4" circular container. We thought up this (wacky) idea to hang the container under the light, we did that. It stayed there for a bit over 3 weeks until it was almost on fire, mind you this is hanging from a normal sized ballast about an inch below, and the light bulb is nearly 5" from the lip of the ballast where the container is hanging. We removed it, gave two weeks on a barstool at about 1.5' from top of plant to the ballast, but with the others at 18ish/6ish (light/dark..), after those twoevil weeks weon transplanted and clearly we discovered, that, we had cramped its style& the roots were runing in circles. This plant continued its rate of growth through its light changing period and since. The time we put the seed in the container was around 4/20/11 someday in the p.m. Yesterday, when saw it looked crazy as it always does, like some kind of jungle bush that Tarzan couldn't even swing threw its so dense, chillin in its lilbig container still, about 3'an tall from base of stalk and tallmans hug around.. My friends would have put it in the ground with its sisters but someone else owns it and is paying them to grow it. It has been outside since summer began. I will have pics later maybe to support this, of what it looks like now.
 

del66666

Well-Known Member
Woody: I think they're all proving your point is indirect, kinda like how crooked politicians tell you one things and draw pretty pictures & slogans, but in reality something completely different is /will happen/ing. Hopefully some supporting pics can clear this up.

Most experienced growers will tell you and should have proof on hand:) to show that starting a seed in more-light+less-darkens yields a plumper, heavier, more delicious bud than other more even ratios of light&darkness. I have first hand knowledge that 24hours light for a bit more than 3 weeks from placing a germed seed into soil, will stimulate tremendous growth and be rooting grounds for a successful plant and hopefully harvest. (THE POINT) Being that this is my friends setup, I observed them take the seed, place it in distilled water...a couple days latter we had it germ(inated) and in a small 2.5"x4" circular container. We thought up this (wacky) idea to hang the container under the light, we did that. It stayed there for a bit over 3 weeks until it was almost on fire, mind you this is hanging from a normal sized ballast about an inch below, and the light bulb is nearly 5" from the lip of the ballast where the container is hanging. We removed it, gave two weeks on a barstool at about 1.5' from top of plant to the ballast, but with the others at 18ish/6ish (light/dark..), after those twoevil weeks weon transplanted and clearly we discovered, that, we had cramped its style& the roots were runing in circles. This plant continued its rate of growth through its light changing period and since. The time we put the seed in the container was around 4/20/11 someday in the p.m. Yesterday, when saw it looked crazy as it always does, like some kind of jungle bush that Tarzan couldn't even swing threw its so dense, chillin in its lilbig container still, about 3'an tall from base of stalk and tallmans hug around.. My friends would have put it in the ground with its sisters but someone else owns it and is paying them to grow it. It has been outside since summer began. I will have pics later maybe to support this, of what it looks like now.
there is no misunderstanding...............he just got it wrong.......12-12 from seed rocks
 

jason1976

Well-Known Member
i also have done 12 12 from seed with great results. yes the plant is smaller but the produce isnt. its personal choice if you ask me. ive done both indoor, bubbler setups. 400w hps. and gh nutes and additives. each time i get 2 to 3 ounces depending on what the strain and if its from seed or clone. try em both and see whicj you like.
 

watchhowIdoit

New Member
And most equatorial strains are Sativa dominant and have long flowering periods. Nature has alot of it figured out for us already, we just have to pay attention....
 

skunkd0c

Well-Known Member
Woody: I think they're all proving your point is indirect, kinda like how crooked politicians tell you one things and draw pretty pictures & slogans, but in reality something completely different is /will happen/ing. Hopefully some supporting pics can clear this up.

Most experienced growers will tell you and should have proof on hand:) to show that starting a seed in more-light+less-darkens yields a plumper, heavier, more delicious bud than other more even ratios of light&darkness. I have first hand knowledge that 24hours light for a bit more than 3 weeks from placing a germed seed into soil, will stimulate tremendous growth and be rooting grounds for a successful plant and hopefully harvest. (THE POINT) Being that this is my friends setup, I observed them take the seed, place it in distilled water...a couple days latter we had it germ(inated) and in a small 2.5"x4" circular container. We thought up this (wacky) idea to hang the container under the light, we did that. It stayed there for a bit over 3 weeks until it was almost on fire, mind you this is hanging from a normal sized ballast about an inch below, and the light bulb is nearly 5" from the lip of the ballast where the container is hanging. We removed it, gave two weeks on a barstool at about 1.5' from top of plant to the ballast, but with the others at 18ish/6ish (light/dark..), after those twoevil weeks weon transplanted and clearly we discovered, that, we had cramped its style& the roots were runing in circles. This plant continued its rate of growth through its light changing period and since. The time we put the seed in the container was around 4/20/11 someday in the p.m. Yesterday, when saw it looked crazy as it always does, like some kind of jungle bush that Tarzan couldn't even swing threw its so dense, chillin in its lilbig container still, about 3'an tall from base of stalk and tallmans hug around.. My friends would have put it in the ground with its sisters but someone else owns it and is paying them to grow it. It has been outside since summer began. I will have pics later maybe to support this, of what it looks like now.
i'm not sure why you have quoted me, i started to read your post but found quickly that its an unreadable pile of drivel
anyway good luck with all your grows whatever style or method you chose to employ .. peace :)
 

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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the op is totaly missing the point of using 12/12 from seed .
i for one use 12/ from seed because of 'space ' restrictions , if i was trying to get a massive yeilding plant then its obvious i would veg the plant for weeks before inducing flowering .
the point is i dont want massive yeilding plants i want small less than 2ft plants in small pots .
i can plant a seed and usualy within 3-4 weeks they will start flowering at about a foot tall , if i had had them on 24 hr lighting for 3-4 weeks then induced flowering the would allready be getting to big for my space and then they would go through all the stretching period they go through when inducing flowring .
on 12/12 from seed you can find strains that stay just over a ft tall with one big bud running down the centre of the plant , wich is absolutely perfect for my situation.
 
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