150w HPS diesel bagseed closet grow

darkhelmut

Active Member
Hello All!
I am new to rollitup, and I would like to share my grow with you all, in the hopes of receiving some feedback, tips, and tricks.

This is my 2nd grow, start to finish. Last year, I aqcuired 2 healthy blueberry clones. I started them outside (where they flourished), but I eventually had to bring them inside due to the weather, and the lighting and conditions were totally inadequate. the larger of the 2 plants (about 4 feet tall and 3 feet around...I got very good at fimming) died pretty quickly, and using some makeshift lights (48in. 40w gro-lux fluorescents in standard shop light fixtures) I somewhat salvaged the smaller of the 2 (about 3 feet tall and 2 around), but the shock was too much, and it never fully recovered. When I decided to flower it, I moved it into my current grow closet (at the time, I still didn't have a quality light). I flowered it out to a paltry 5 grams (I've been told a plant that size under good light could have put out a zip easy). around week four of flowering I found a diesel bagseed, and decided I wouldn't make the same mistake twice.

About the set-up: My closet is 7.5 feet tall, 18 inches wide and 3 feet deep. It's a bathroom closet, so I have easy access to water and drainage. I have a single 150w HPS light attached to to the top of the ceiling, and 2 dual bulb 48 inch 40w gro-lux fluorescents in shop light fixtures hanging vertically in opposing corners of the closet (one in the back left facing outward, one in the front right facing inwards). I have an adjustable metal rack on the floor of the closet. Under the rack, there is a drainage bucket. On top of the rack I have the plant (of course) in a six gallon bucket, and the nutrients, watering containers and supplies. The door is the slatted bathroom type. I closed up the top part with cardboard. At the bottom of the closet, leaning vertically against the rack, I have a dual window fan (with dual adjustable intake/exhaust switches and a temperature selection feature, which allows it to maintain a preset temp.). One fan in the unit is above the rack, the other below. I keep the top one on intake and the bottom one on exhaust, maintaining a 70 degree temp. Thus, the lower slats remain open to allow airflow (the fan fits perfectly too).

About the plant: I found a bagseed in a half-ounce of some quality, yet unnamed diesel (which diesel strain, I am unsure, but I am sure it was a diesel due to the citrus/grapefruit aromas, dense structure, and slight purpling). I like to germinate in purified water, so I placed the seed in a small glass of water and placed it in the dark for a few days. When it sprouted (on xmas day! santa rules), I planted it in some nutrient rich soil I had from a windowsill herb planter I had received for xmas in a 16 oz blue party cup (you know the kind...think keg party). Here's where I ran into some problems. I didn't have a good light. I had the closet set up, but with just the fluorescents. So, I let the plant sprout under a very bright desklamp. Pretty soon (Jan 30th), it was tall (about 12 inches), and sorta lanky (due to the lighting), but healthy. So using some leftover soil I had, I transplanted it (roots were visible) into a slighty larger red clay container, and put it in the closet with the other plant, which was nearly done flowering (I figured a few weeks of 12/12 would reveal the sex of the bagseed, which it did, and it was female! girls rule). This is where I got my ass in gear (feb 20th). I purchased a 150w HPS light, a bale of promix, and a proper measuring shot glass (I had been eyeing it before). I modified the closet to hold the new light (just a couple of hook screws in the ceiling to hold the V mounts. I transplanted the plant into a 6 gallon bucket (feb 20th), with another 6 gallon bucket beneath the rack to catch the drip. I fed it about 6 liters of water a day for 3 days after that, to moisten the soil and help the plant get used to the transplant.

About my nutes/watering/light cycle: I mix 20ml of alaskan fish oil with 4000ml water and feed every 84 hours. The plant was under 24/7 light from feb. 20th until mar. 9th, during which time I fimmed twice (first the main stem, then the two main stems that shot off of that). Also during this time, the plant experienced some explosive growth (I've included pics of all of this), so on mar 9th. I went to a 12/12 cycle (actually more like a 11/13, just to be safe). To understand the nature of the growth, please bear in mind that only 3 weeks passed between the first picture and the second/rest of the pics.

My questions: I've seen pot plants with 3 bladed leaves before, but is that normal? Mine has mostly 3 bladed, with some 5 bladed. Does it mean I need to change anything? What is an ideal flowering plant nute ratio? My fish oil has an NPK of 5-1-1. I know i need something else, but what? And how much per feeding? Are my feeding methods effective? If not, what should I do differently? And most importantly, what does everyone think of the grow as a whole?

Thanks to all who answer.

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Acidburn999819

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just to give you an idea i...i use a 150w HPS as well...but i only grow 2/3 plants about one to two feet tall max and get about a zip a plant...the taller the plant gets with that little light the shorter the plant needs to be if you want decent bud.
 

darkhelmut

Active Member
it would be nice if it was shorter with a bush like that, i agree....but some of that height is from the early stages under poor lighting....once i get some money i'm gonna get some legit seeds and try to put 3 in that closet. but right now i'm just working with this one, for fun mostly, personal use, and i wanna work the best with what i've got. would it be worthwhile to train the branches a bit lower?
 

scaredspliffless

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I would get that light about twice as close to the plant if possible and get yourself some reflective mylar to maximize that 150 watt hps
 

scaredspliffless

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Put it on a pulley system and raise it with the plant keeping in mind not to burn the top leaves which you might want to top
 

PurpleMaxx

Member
Hey bro good looking closet, I also have a 150 hps in a closet, yet I use a self made hydro system. Three leafs are not so good, sounds like the plant is trying to hermi, try what dude was saying by keeping the light closer to the plant and raising it as it grows. Also the ideal flowering ratio is about less nitro not more.....you dont want the plant to grow up any more you want the plant to stop growing....you want to trick the plant so it thinks she is about to die so she will start to flower to reproduce before she goes. This is the time for sugars (molasses) to add flavor and aroma and you might want to buy a bud enhancer.....I love Purple Maxx by Humbolt, it will add tricroms like crazy and add a purple to your girls, also use the gravity.....it will make your flowers gain weight...lol....your buds grow bigger and denser.......they also make this one thats called bush master which will make them bush out and stay smaller......All of these products by Humbolt are great and I highly recommend. I also use General Hydro for my base nutreance and I like the three part nutes (make's it easier to control when needed).........I messed up and neemed my gal four weeks into flowering and it polished my tricroms right off (lol....dumb ass move...lol) but the Purple Maxx did its job and one week later the crystals were back.....here is couple pic's of her.....I still have 3 weeks before she dies so I am hoping that that beer can turns into a milk jug but we will see. You seem to have a great little set up, I am over dirt unless its out door so I would have to say build a hydro unit there cheap to buy and build and then I would get a ph and ppm tester, but if its dirt you want then use the nutes I talked about earlier and it will help you out if you want hydro buckets let me know and I will tell you how to do it
 

daisy2687

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Its over a year old but.. Please if anyone out there is nrunning a 150w PLACE IT CLOSER!!

I keep my lamp 3-4in above the tops
 
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