1600Kw vertical grow tent. Hybrid Aero/RDWC build.

mr.bond said:

How are you keeping the misters from spraying liquid out from under the lid? My buddy used the same tubs in a similar setup but had to abandon it after massive leakage... even though the lid sits flush it doesn't seal.

Also I noticed you painted the lids. How is the light penetration after doing that?

Looking good so far! Cheers!

Mr. Bond

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I used some weather stripping on the totes. That solved the problem. You can buy it from Home de pot for $3 and it comes with a sticky side. I painted the lids black and then I went over them with some white. So no light should be getting in the system. I also have some foil duct tape for the pipes as well to shield them from the light. Thanks for stopping by. I will have the plants in the system tomorrow. I modified the lids and added 2 3" net pots to each lid. I figured I will try the bagseed out that happened to live through my germination practices.

Hey buddy I like the sound of your setup but I'm confused about your power specs. I'm not trying to be an engineering nazi, but 1600kw grow is like... 1,600,000 watts or am I retarded? I was really hoping to see an underground bunker of 10,000 square feet, jam packed with lights and lights and lights and fans and lights.. Plus you would have had to have a military issue tent on a massive scale. Oh well

ChronicObsession said:

Hey buddy I like the sound of your setup but I'm confused about your power specs. I'm not trying to be an engineering nazi, but 1600kw grow is like... 1,600,000 watts or am I retarded? I was really hoping to see an underground bunker of 10,000 square feet, jam packed with lights and lights and lights and fans and lights.. Plus you would have had to have a military issue tent on a massive scale. Oh well

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LOL. I was hoping nobody was going to catch that TYPO I made in the title. Im not sure if I can edit it of not. It is just 1600w. + REP to you on that sir.

Temps: Rez= 73 Tent= 79
Humidity= 46
ppm= 500

The baby is growing. Careful with those nutes. I wouldn't go over 500 ppm until they are well established and then 700-800 tops through veg. Those clones that I LST'd ran at 450 ppm for 10 days before I bumped it to 700.

Lookin good! I can't wait to see those huge trees in there!

The sprayers appear like they might be too high. From what I remember, those red sprayers shoot pretty much in an upwards direction and seem to be positioned very close to the net pot. I'm sure you'll accomplish the task of getting the nutes to the roots(rhyme unintended) while the root system is still smaller, however once they emerge they may just be getting dripped on from the lid. Not exactly a bad thing, I suppose just not ideal for "aero".
Let us know how this is actually working in practice and good luck with the grow!

You're going to LOVE growing in this system dude,....hold on tight, it's about to get interesting

great looking set up i hope everything works out.

Dude, way to wrap your brain around some grow methods! You are going to rock this! 500ppm is some strong sauce though, bump it down to 250-450 for the first 2 weeks. In hydro you can get away with the minimalist's effort, so you can go as low on your PPM's as you can.

Man, I see all the effort and research you put into your first grow, I remember when I did my first one I thought I knew everything... and holy shit it turned out so bad it made my balls hurt. I grow like a pro now, but the first round was such money wasted, 3 years later and it still makes me sad.

You are going to be one hell of a producer though, I can't wait until you get the itch for more plants!

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Jozikins said:

You are going to rock this! 500ppm is some strong sauce though, bump it down to 250-450 for the first 2 weeks. In hydro you can get away with the minimalist's effort, so you can go as low on your PPM's as you can.

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+ rep THAT! My motto,...."Less is more" ....ESPECIALLY in hydro. I use 1/3 the nutes I did in soil. I rarely break 800ppm in flower, avg 500-600 This is awesome advice that we rarely see. Many like to push ppm to the limit thinking the more food, the better. I'm not a believer. In time you will learn to listen to what the plants are saying and address what they need as they tell you.

LBH said:

+ rep THAT! My motto,...."Less is more" ....ESPECIALLY in hydro. I use 1/3 the nutes I did in soil. I rarely break 800ppm in flower, avg 500-600 This is awesome advice that we rarely see. Many like to push ppm to the limit thinking the more food, the better. I'm not a believer. In time you will learn to listen to what the plants are saying and address what they need as they tell you.

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Good to see another genius here on RIU
Thank you for the rep and the kind words. When I was exclusively DWC my PPM's topped 950, I actually had a hard time trying to figure out how to get them lower, because I had a few additives I couldn't part with that weren't part of my main line up. I always load up on humic acid, fulvic acid, amino acids, B vitamins, and silica. All these additives are loaded with caron (silica aside) and raise the PPM's a little bit. H&G doesnt have an official carb either, so I use a few a carb additive during the final few weeks of feed and flush. But otherwise I would probably max out at 800. Less food, more yield, more money in your pocket.

BendBrewer said:

The baby is growing. Careful with those nutes. I wouldn't go over 500 ppm until they are well established and then 700-800 tops through veg. Those clones that I LST'd ran at 450 ppm for 10 days before I bumped it to 700.

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Thanks for the kind words. Im going to drop the ppm.

ajorden88 said:

Lookin good! I can't wait to see those huge trees in there!

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Thats what im hoping for. I thing im going to go buy another 600 watter to veg with.

kr320 said:

The sprayers appear like they might be too high. From what I remember, those red sprayers shoot pretty much in an upwards direction and seem to be positioned very close to the net pot. I'm sure you'll accomplish the task of getting the nutes to the roots(rhyme unintended) while the root system is still smaller, however once they emerge they may just be getting dripped on from the lid. Not exactly a bad thing, I suppose just not ideal for "aero".
Let us know how this is actually working in practice and good luck with the grow!

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I would have to agree with you on that. When I had to mod the tent I had to make the water level higher for the remote rez. But out of 12 misters I say 2 of them are hitting the tops of the totes.

LBH said:

You're going to LOVE growing in this system dude,....hold on tight, it's about to get interesting

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This is a lot of fun. Its cool to go in the tent and check on them. Great relaxation.

Rcb said:

great looking set up i hope everything works out.

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I hope so too. But if not im sure the great minds on this site will help me solve the problem.

Jozikins said:

Dude, way to wrap your brain around some grow methods! You are going to rock this! 500ppm is some strong sauce though, bump it down to 250-450 for the first 2 weeks. In hydro you can get away with the minimalist's effort, so you can go as low on your PPM's as you can.

Man, I see all the effort and research you put into your first grow, I remember when I did my first one I thought I knew everything... and holy shit it turned out so bad it made my balls hurt. I grow like a pro now, but the first round was such money wasted, 3 years later and it still makes me sad.

You are going to be one hell of a producer though, I can't wait until you get the itch for more plants!

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I cant wait to get that itch as well. This Diy set up is pretty cool I think. As a noob grower I did not want to burn through a bunch of money. This grow was most certainly in my limit. Just took a boat load of time.

LBH said:

+ rep THAT! My motto,...."Less is more" ....ESPECIALLY in hydro. I use 1/3 the nutes I did in soil. I rarely break 800ppm in flower, avg 500-600 This is awesome advice that we rarely see. Many like to push ppm to the limit thinking the more food, the better. I'm not a believer. In time you will learn to listen to what the plants are saying and address what they need as they tell you.

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I am trying to read them as well. I find it so strange that the "bagseed" are out growing the designer strains I have. I know they are a week or so older but they are some freaking champs!!

Jozikins said:

Good to see another genius here on RIU
Thank you for the rep and the kind words. When I was exclusively DWC my PPM's topped 950, I actually had a hard time trying to figure out how to get them lower, because I had a few additives I couldn't part with that weren't part of my main line up. I always load up on humic acid, fulvic acid, amino acids, B vitamins, and silica. All these additives are loaded with caron (silica aside) and raise the PPM's a little bit. H&G doesnt have an official carb either, so I use a few a carb additive during the final few weeks of feed and flush. But otherwise I would probably max out at 800. Less food, more yield, more money in your pocket.

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What will be the best way to drop the ppm?? +REP to you all for the great knowledge.

Best way to drop ppm is to do a water change and only bring it up as far as you want it

LBH said:

Best way to drop ppm is to do a water change and only bring it up as far as you want it

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I will be doing that right now.

LBH said:

Best way to drop ppm is to do a water change and only bring it up as far as you want it

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He's got it right.

And your bag seed is taking off because it was an unintentional cross, so it has hybrid vigor. It isn't super common to find a bag seed that is a genetic duplicate of the mother, most gardeners have a few different plants in their garden so it is often a cross. So that would be the source of the hybrid vigor. That is usually how I know if bag seed is pure or not. I don't normally fucking with bag seed unless it is a strain I have long since lusted after.

I just came up on some iron lotus, i think it's pure

Jozikins said:

He's got it right.

And your bag seed is taking off because it was an unintentional cross, so it has hybrid vigor. It isn't super common to find a bag seed that is a genetic duplicate of the mother, most gardeners have a few different plants in their garden so it is often a cross. So that would be the source of the hybrid vigor. That is usually how I know if bag seed is pure or not. I don't normally fucking with bag seed unless it is a strain I have long since lusted after.

I just came up on some iron lotus, i think it's pure

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Thats what I was thinking. I hope I get majority females out of the Bagseed. The World of Seeds WWxBB is a good strain I must say. You think I will have problems once the roots hit the water with my rez temps? I hope not. I do have a lot of movement going on and when I add the air stones its going to be bonkers. I just leave the misters on bc the pump is not on a timer.

What is your res temp?

I have a similar strain, I have Whiteberry by Paradise Seeds. It is a great all day smoker, sure to please but not to put you out. I've gotten some amazing frost on this plant, people always flip when they see it. It actually isn't my dankest strain, but definitely one of my frostiest. I haven't tried it from The World of Seeds.

Jozikins said:

What is your res temp?

I have a similar strain, I have Whiteberry by Paradise Seeds. It is a great all day smoker, sure to please but not to put you out. I've gotten some amazing frost on this plant, people always flip when they see it. It actually isn't my dankest strain, but definitely one of my frostiest. I haven't tried it from The World of Seeds.

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My res temps are 73f. Yeah I hope these girls turn out like that. I did a water 65-75% water change. I am letting the system circulate and I will post pics and measurements in a hour or so.

The temps in my tent dont seem as hot as my thermometer reads (it is close to the light). It actually feels good in it. Granted it is alot of air movement going on in that thing. I just ordered me a Milwaukee digital ph pen because that colored water crap is not for me at all!! I did a water change as instructed today. I let it circulate before I took a measurement unlike the other days. So the readings should be good.
rez tent humidity ppm
6/16 74 81 46 530
6/17 74 81 48 541
6/18 75 82 46 270

The first pick is one of the 6 "bagseed" plants. Pic 2 Blue Widow. Pic 3 Critical Plus. Pic 4 AK-48. Pic 5 WWxBB. The yellow is from when they grew right into the CFL last week. How are they looking to you all? I will be getting another 600w MH this week to knock them into overdrive BTW.