184w CFL Grow

Hello everybody, first real seed to harvest grow here.i'Still on week two of flowering but here's the setup.

2x6x7 closet
6x 23watt 2700k CFLs
2x 23watt 5000k CFLs

4 reflectors with 2 lights each
two 2.75g pots double stacked
(Top half is 1/2MG moisture control soil and 1/2 perlite) (bottom half is FF Happy Frog potting soil)

I had used Miracle Gro Plant Food from 2 weeks into veg until the day of flowering for every other water.

Water ph is anywhere from 6.5-7 depending on whats in it.

On 12/12 cycle, 5am-5pm

Temps are pretty high right now, can't really find an efficient way to vent the room without cutting holes in stuff.
They're sittin at about 75-85 night and day.
I have a box fan at plant level blowing directly on her and I have a small 6" fan blowing out of the closet on the top shelf when the door is open.

The lights are a little bit fickle and stubborn. They're hard to control so I just use a string and pull it over the clothes hanger bar under the shelf and tie it to some tacks in the wall.

Anyway down to business.
This is a bagseed grow from some seeds I had over a year or two ago. Don't know anything other than she smells like sour skunk and pine sol, yet she's showing phenotypes of both indica and sativa. So i'm guessing a hybrid for sure. I've managed to supercrop her twice on the same main stem and Ii've removed any foliage or tops not being provided light. She is growing into this weird circular bush shape with nearly nothing in her center... lol




I've been having mostly ups with this littlw lady but I've had my fair share of downs throughout this grow. Usually having to do with nutrients or pH.. overwatering/underwatering temps, burns. Usual noob stuff. I cannot however figure this one out.. there are these weird splotches on the lower leaves, looks like a deficiency to me but It could also be nutrient toxicity. I'm going to be using the 1tsp/gallon molasses mixture next watering and will continue through flush. Here are the pics

Weird necrosis looking coloration..

Also forgot to mention i'm using MG Bloom Boost for flowering nutes. 1/4 reccomended dose every other water or so and 1tsp/gal Brer Rabbit unsulphured blackstrap molasses every other water




Let me know what you think, all questions, comments and advice are welcome I'd love to hear it!

Peace out

looks like a heat burn

It does? Cause its only on the lower leaves its like a crusty dark greenish browning splotching with grey flecks in it. The tops are all blooming with fresh pistils daily and theyre all green and perky

Here's a better pic, I just noticed these.. lol I need to pay more attention to the lady

Why are you using synthetics with organics? Mg with Happy Frog again Mg with molasses?? It just don't make since. It's like pissing in the wind, use one or the other. Good luck.

neonknight420 said:

Why are you using synthetics with organics? Mg with Happy Frog again Mg with molasses?? It just don't make since. It's like pissing in the wind, use one or the other. Good luck.

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I had no choice and somebody reccomended I transplant to a bigger pot. I thought that would be useless because its rootbound as shit in this pot so I went and double stacked. I figured the top half of the root system will be synthetic soil and the bottom half will be organic. I guess id be washing it all to shit anyway by watering dragging the synthetic roots downwards. But the mg moisture control soil is complete garbage. I did NOT want to use even more of it in the bottom pot. If you want to give me some constructive advice please answer with your opinion and then reasoning why. I dont thoroughly appreciate questions about why im doing something with no reasoning behind your questioning besides a vague irrelevant metaphor. I have heard molasses can be of at least SOME use in all chem grows, but hey first time growing is usually an experiment right? Why not go with the flow and see what works and what doesn't. I'm already 2 weeks into flower so I can't change her up this run around. Thanks for the piece of thought though neonknight420

I just realized something while watering today... I may have splashed my nutrient water all over the lower leaves while watering last time.. thus the leaves have 'splotches' of nutrient burn. They probably absorbed it through the leaves in a concentrated amount!

Well the bud nodes are actually becoming denser and filling in a bit. I see mostly long white pistils so far but every single one of my tops are canopy level and the canopy is shaped like a horseshoe haha. I may be in the process of learning a new technique? Who knows. Maybe I could cross supercropping, horseshoeing and mainlining all into one super bud bomb

When you use organics with synthetics the chemical salts kill all life in organics. What I'm saying is a lot of organic products tend to be on the pricey side of things. So when you mix the two together it ruins the organic products you have. I understand that was all you had but it didn't have to be done right then and there just because someone told you that you needed a bigger pot. It can always wait a little longer, when growing never rush into anything. It's always best to take your time and do it right the first time, we put too much of our time and energy into this hobby of ours to do something half ass.

Cool man, I think next run I will go all organic and use soil again. Im definitely going to upgrade to a MH and HPS setup next time as well for the lumens and spectrum output.

But yeah man I will admit this grow was half assed for a good portion of it. But I can fairly say I did what I could with what I had at the moment. Probably put 30 bucks total into this first one hopefully I get some sort of decent yield and quality out of it, but I know next time I will for sure be ready to upgrade with a small amount of experience built up after this. What do you think I should do with her throughout the flowering then? Just forget about the molasses? I will say since watering with the molasses I noticed a pungent skunky odor eminating from the room and the pistils were bursting out almost double the amount of pistils as yesterday, shes in fact looking greener and perkier as well. Idk if it had anything to do with the syrup or not but I will say it looks as though it definitely did not hurt!

Haha lemme know what you think bro

Peace out

What do you prefer neonknight? Synthetic nutes or all organic grow?

I'm all about organics 100%. You can continue to use the molasses its not going to hurt. If it looks like its helping then by all means keep using it. Just in the future pick one and go with that all the way through. The whole molasses thing is to feed the micro-herd and when you introduce synthetic salts it kills them. What strain are you growing?

That makes sense man, ill follow through with one path next time. I'm growing a bagseed strain. Not sure, looks like an indica sativa hybrid.

Some pics



how is she looking? 2.5 weeks into flowering, does she look on schedule?

She is looking good keep doing what ever you're doing.

Thanks bro! So for a small update there hasnt been much happening lately besides bud development. It seems like they grow in bursts and not slowly, a couple days go by nothing really happens then all the sudden a burst of bud and pistil growth explodes out almost doubling bud size each time. Shes been drinking half a gallon every two days or so, much more than ever before. Also its been easier to not overfeed her lately, shes roughly 18" tall and 24" wide maybe taller. Idk how far along she is off hand but id say 3 weeks since flip

What do ya think?

She was showing hybrid phenotype the whole way along but more indica in veg and more sativa in flower.. the veg leaf growth was more broad and soft edged but the new leaf growth now in flower is sharp and thin, ive never heard of this before what causes this to happen in hybrids?

From what I can see looks like it could be sativa dom. If so than it could take at least 9 weeks give or take. That's the thing about growing with bag seed you really don't know much about what your growing.

Yeah man I hear you on that. Well I do prefer those real heady sativas and with the understanding that they're harder to control than indica dominant strains, i'm content with that. Only because sativas willgive me more of a challenge as a first grow than an indica from what i've heard, leading to more dense experience. I was wondering why she keeps trying to stretch her legs out, had to nearly break them a couple times to keep her bushy lmao. Everything comes and goes so ill just play the hand im dealt