1BMM's CAVE....

Temps and humidity in check.


Starting to see a bowl like pattern taking shape on the canopy. A few days ago i went through and placed the shorter plants of the garden directly under the lights and put the taller ones on the sides and front in an attempt to even things out. Im sure that this bowl shape will continue even though im supercropping branches daily, its just the way the lights are positioned horizontally i think.


A bit closer, ill try to explain what we have here. White bucket is my prized Timewarp female. I have 2 others in the mix here aswell but this one is my fav.

Far left is DOG 3 and my clone mother for all 9 hydro dogs in the background. There are also 5 soil dogs from the same mother in the sog.

Next is the 2 headband phenos gifted by the fairy from a great pal of mine and ours. I took clones from each and have 3 hydro headbands and 3 total in soil including these two.

looking in a bit closer.


Im going to add 2 more hps close to the end of flower i think, Maybe just a few hours at mid day like it would be in nature during the hot hours of the day. Just dont wanna raise red flags with high energy usage. sos

far right are 3 hydro blue widow there are 3 more in soil tucked into the sog aswell as 2 Grape Ape. Today i pulled all the soil plants out and got really nosey to the dogs tws and twxrs HB's looking for nanners and man parts. I only found a couple suspected male preflowers on my dogs and other than that GA all good. HB all good. TW got 2 im watching yet. BW are known females so all good. TWXR i had one left in the mix that i was sure was showing female preflowers. I go to take a look up her skirt today and find she's been a he all along. SO sadly i cut the he she up into bits and thats that.

So overall things are good. Ive been feeding my soil girls water only as the soil i used has nutes in it. I think they are all but used up so ive gone to a feed of FF today. Some plants are showing N def and a few micro shortages aswell.

As for the Hydro plants. Shit man Dutchmasters all the way. Since switching from a soil nute JC the plants have exploded with root growth and vegatative growth massively!!!. Im really getting the hang of this shit now. My ph has been staying in range for 3-4 days at a time now before needing ph down. Temps are in the mid 60's in the res/nutes. Root rot is notta thanks to HU and the DM zone. Got me thinking i almost gave up hahaha. Enough of my rambles.

I took a clone of each variety in the flower room for this springs clone mothers.

Guess what the twxr clone i took had roots already after only 3 days. MALE why are they so fast compared to the fe's

Peace and god bless peeps 1BMM

Hats off to you, 1bmm. That looks really fantastic. Nice work.

mcpurple said:

dam that is some spendy equipment.
you should just move to a medical state masonman

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even in medical states (like mine) we need the smell down....thieves!!

Sure is rocking now 1BMM. I guess the JC nutes for soil just don't do it for hydro. I was actually thinking of doing a little hydro thing, but then though better of it, lol

Can't wait for you to get a DOG harvest bru. Peace, DST

Nice work masonman, that is turning into a regular forest. I'm happy the zone helped you out, I had no need for it. I must have zoned when I ordered it. I'm curious as to whether there is going to be a big difference in taste between hydro and soil. I expect you will get a better yield from the hydro?

Can you guys taste the difference between hyrdo grown fruit and veg and soil grown organic?

shnkrmn said:

Hats off to you, 1bmm. That looks really fantastic. Nice work.

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Thankyou Shnkrmn and thanx for the support bro

bassman999 said:

even in medical states (like mine) we need the smell down....thieves!!

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Yeah i hear ya bassman the smell is a loud if not for carbon scrubbers and good ventilation. I have a nose like a blood hound so im quite critical about keeping my pad ganj odour free enven though i love the smell lol. Gotta be smart about the shit ya nooooo.

DST said:

Sure is rocking now 1BMM. I guess the JC nutes for soil just don't do it for hydro. I was actually thinking of doing a little hydro thing, but then though better of it, lol

Can't wait for you to get a DOG harvest bru. Peace, DST

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Yep DST bru Jacks classic just wasnt cutting it. Im not 100% going to say it cant be done though. When i added zone i quit the jc i guess just to be safe. I really want these ladies to bulk up without being a mad scientist hehe. I need a lil more experience yet hydro. DM nutes are expensive as fuck too but they are primo so its worth it. My dogs DST are looking really good and healthy even though my pics dont show it, i suck at photography hehe.

Heads Up said:

Nice work masonman, that is turning into a regular forest. I'm happy the zone helped you out, I had no need for it. I must have zoned when I ordered it. I'm curious as to whether there is going to be a big difference in taste between hydro and soil. I expect you will get a better yield from the hydro?

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Well Headsup thats what the hydro guys say vs dirt. I guess we shall see as i have about as many soil dogs in flower as hydro so easy comparison and good point HU. I never gave that much thought hahaha.

DST said:

Can you guys taste the difference between hyrdo grown fruit and veg and soil grown organic?

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Ive never had any actual hydro weed to my knowledge so this will be a first for me. Also a great little side project as stated^^^ cool im that much more fired up now lol. Just 7-89 weeks to go ill let you gentlemen in on the scoop.

1BMM

The cave is beginning to look more like the amazon jungle, lol.

aye, prolly a few lost tribes and cities of gold in there....well certainly cities of gold!!!

Dezracer said:

The cave is beginning to look more like the amazon jungle, lol.

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1badmasonman said:

Thankyou Shnkrmn and thanx for the support bro



Yeah i hear ya bassman the smell is a loud if not for carbon scrubbers and good ventilation. I have a nose like a blood hound so im quite critical about keeping my pad ganj odour free enven though i love the smell lol. Gotta be smart about the shit ya nooooo.



Yep DST bru Jacks classic just wasnt cutting it. Im not 100% going to say it cant be done though. When i added zone i quit the jc i guess just to be safe. I really want these ladies to bulk up without being a mad scientist hehe. I need a lil more experience yet hydro. DM nutes are expensive as fuck too but they are primo so its worth it. My dogs DST are looking really good and healthy even though my pics dont show it, i suck at photography hehe.



Well Headsup thats what the hydro guys say vs dirt. I guess we shall see as i have about as many soil dogs in flower as hydro so easy comparison and good point HU. I never gave that much thought hahaha.



Ive never had any actual hydro weed to my knowledge so this will be a first for me. Also a great little side project as stated^^^ cool im that much more fired up now lol. Just 7-89 weeks to go ill let you gentlemen in on the scoop.

1BMM

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We'll make sure you taste some super hydro bro, and a few different kinds too

Over time you will come to form your own personal opinions. I prefer Outdoor all around. Indoors I prefer organic soil, soil, soilless or coco. Im not a big fan of DWC buds, but I am a fan of DWC growth times, and harvest weights . Hydro is somewhere in between to me. I have seen all different kinds of turn outs from each style of growing. What it has come down to with me is- 1st the strain, 2nd the method it was grown and harvested. There have been times that people have told me it was good outdoor, and I liked it just fine, and then they would tell me it was indoor hydro. So on the subject of what is actually better..... my most common opinion is "it all depends" . I still prefer well grown and cared for outdoor.

Some of your plants look just like some of my old plants...... so I am aching to have my own personal grow going again. Thanks for that added motivation. I will send you a link when I get my new journal going.

Till then....

Keep It up!

Thanks for the encouragment DST HU DEZ TLD. Yes the cave is surely filling out quickly. Going to have to raise the lights again today. So far so good all the plants in flower are doing great. A few of the soil headbands are showing signs of def. But other than that all is green and healthy. Just over 1 week of flower down and lil mini colas are starting to take shape on the canopy.

The 2 males are growing balls like mad. I know DST you mentioned that you think the males will turn fe on the TWXR but this one of mine is full fledge male. No pussy hair at all just big ole nut sacs. Im almost sure now having went back and re read posts around the time of the bean order thye are supposed to be regs. Those beans in particular came from the breeders themselves instead of the attitude so could be some shinanigans on their part. However going to be searching for that elusive fe in the mix.

As for me im soar ugghh. Been out snowboarding all week and trying more advanced obstacles and tricks. Ive been taking an ass whoopin lol but i love it. Too much fun peeps

Have a great day everybody. 1BMM

While Jack's didn't work so well for your hydro, you might take a look at Dyna-gro which I use. It's dead cheap, very pure and has given me great success where cannabis-specific nutes have been indifferent in results (for me). I used to have every deficiency possible until I switched.

I think I might have some foliage pro from dyna-gro sitting in my feed cabinet if your interested masonman? NPK of 9-3-6...if I'm remembering correctly. I don't remember the size of the bottle but if it dawns on me tonight when I'm in there I'll pull it out.

Thanks for the offer Headsup but I think im ok for now on nutes. My lil shelf is jam packed with nutes. The hydro plants are fine no def at all. Its the soil plants that have used up the slow realease fert in the soil. For that ive gone to feeding Foxfarms full line up for the rest of flower. Its getting to be a real pain watering ther inner soil plants, hard to reach.

tell me about it, today I managed whilst rushing to drop one of my little pots from the very top shelf (about 2 metres high) which nose dived and landed on my ballasts, all the lights then promptly went out (including inside my house - freaked the wife who was just getting out of bed!! woops) Anyway, cleaned up, dried them off, and bingo all is running fine, what a fekkin chop I am. lol

1badmasonman said:

Thanks for the offer Headsup but I think im ok for now on nutes. My lil shelf is jam packed with nutes. The hydro plants are fine no def at all. Its the soil plants that have used up the slow realease fert in the soil. For that ive gone to feeding Foxfarms full line up for the rest of flower. Its getting to be a real pain watering ther inner soil plants, hard to reach.

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lol well as much as we try to be ginger with the tender lil yins accidents do happen lol. The other day i was leaning in over the garden to supercrop a few branches slipped on a wet spot and lost my footing biffed it on top of a couple plants lol. They are doing ok though just some ruffled branches hahaha.

ruffling up the branches, hahaha....just a wee slip eh.

Ok I dont feel so bad for being a complete clutz ALL the time. I spilled water on my ballast 2 weeks ago, and I fell carrying a plant last week. All is well though she is re-potted and the ballast is still working. I came out last night to see that my mylar fell over some of my plants! I guess the tape isnt holding anymore. +rep to both of ya

Thankfully since I moved into my back bedroom to grow I've had no problems other than it getting a little cramped every once in a while from too many plants under the lights. I've also noticed as times passes I don't mess with the girls near as much as I used to. I go in when the lights come on, tell them good morning and give them a quick look. Come back after about an hour and water them and I might take another look or two before bed. I'm up at five fifteen, so at five to six I go in, hit the sleep button on my air conditioner, turn the fans down low, give them a quick peek and tell them goodnight when the lights go out. It's been rather cold here the past few days, it's gotten down to sixty five at the moment in the garden. I'm hoping since they are so near finishing the colder nights might encourage a bit more resin out of them.

So about 18,3 celcius, is that with the light on or off HeadsUp?

Heads Up said:

Thankfully since I moved into my back bedroom to grow I've had no problems other than it getting a little cramped every once in a while from too many plants under the lights. I've also noticed as times passes I don't mess with the girls near as much as I used to. I go in when the lights come on, tell them good morning and give them a quick look. Come back after about an hour and water them and I might take another look or two before bed. I'm up at five fifteen, so at five to six I go in, hit the sleep button on my air conditioner, turn the fans down low, give them a quick peek and tell them goodnight when the lights go out. It's been rather cold here the past few days, it's gotten down to sixty five at the moment in the garden. I'm hoping since they are so near finishing the colder nights might encourage a bit more resin out of them.

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