1st Grow Help Please - Any advice is much appreciated

Seed : Bag seed
Soil : Vigoro Organic Potting 0.10-0.5-0.5
Lighting : CFL's 4 @ 23W/5000k/1600 lumens each
Growspace 2ft wide x 2ft tall x 1ft deep


This is my first grow ever, and first thread or post ever. Trying for a stealth grow in cabinets I am building myself. Sprouted seeds from bag seed on paper towels. Using CFL's for entire grow. At week 0 transplanted to Jiffy Pots, filled with Vigoro Organic Potting Soil, after tap root showed. At about week 1 noticed that there was some yellowing on lower, seedling, leaves. Read a little online and some people were saying Jiffy Pots were bad. Decided to transfer to Solo Cups. Noticed after last watering that plant #1 is drooping or “clawing.” Watering with Supermarket brand purified water with nutrients added. The problem might be over watering, as droopiness showed after last watering. Also the yellow continues throughout most of the lower leaves in all 4 plants. Added Fox Farm Grow Big to water for the first time. Using ½ Tsp per gallon for first week. If plant #1 continues to show drooping after this watering slow watering on plant #1. Giving plant 100 ml water for first water. Planning on watering every 3-5 days depending on soil. Does anyone have any advice they could give me? My seeds are coming soon and these are just for practice, so I would like to be prepared a little more before they arrive...Any information would be a great help



Last 4 pictures are plants # 4,3,2,1

oy mate ease up on the juice. its like giving table food to a newborn lol.. the soil has nutes in it. so your burning your kids.. rule of themb in soil water plant then either weigh or guestimate weight, let them dry almost all the way out before watering(oxidizes roots) feel the difference in weight and use your best judgement after that the more they get wet then dry the better they will grow.. noticed the temps got to 97.. lil high for babies.. note for the size that you have to grow with i would flip them over to 12/12 asap.. BUT THIS IS JUST MY OPINION.. good luck and always KEEP ON GROWIN

OH ALSO THE LOWER 2 TINY LEAVES WILL ALWAYS YELLOW AND FALL OFF. next time transplant all the way up to the bottom of the lowest leaves not those seed leaves.

I just started nutes today at 3 weeks after germs sprouted out of soil....Is that too early? I figured the soil was pretty low on nutes considering it's the organic one.... only .10 - .5 -.5....I will cut back immediately though. Do you think that these are at a good size for being 3 weeks old? I been using the knuckle method for checking dryness before water....Thanks for the advice....these are just for practice....

Also I only used 1/2 tsp which would be 1/4 strength...And have only done it once

It doesn't get any better than Jiffy Pots.

Really cause I have been reading tons of these threads....and a lot of people say they are bad....I am probably gonna clone any mothers I get from this batch, if they stay alive, in the Jiffy Pots. Gonna save the Rockwool cubes for the Barney's Farm stuff I bought...

Oh and on the size of the box issue....I have 3 boxes already....this is just a small Veggie box....I also have a 2x4x2 and am building a 4x4x1

Put the rockwool in your walls. JP is peat and latex sap from a rubber tree, all biodegradable.

not that you would try to compost rocks.

The rockwool cubes do kinda look like insulation lmfao...

Is this normal growth for about 3 weeks in???

You can tell by the way they all look the same.

Go easy on the water, make sure you only feed when they show signs of being hungry and make sure you get your temps down to 75-78F for 12/12.

Water only when completely dry, that's what i do at least.... also, I don't think you should be feeding them at this point.

Pretty sure they're nute burnt

I barely ever feed my plants honestly. but that's just me... And it works. I have always just been afraid of burning my babies.

The beauty of good soil is that you don't really need to add to it, only water is essential everything else optional.

New soil is good for 4 to five weeks without adding nutes.

A little yellowing is not uncommon in my limited experience.

Good soil, nice temp and humidity and water is all they need it the first 4 weeks.

In fact Ijust watched a You Tube clip from a top Dutch Seed Company where they grew two seeds.

One in a hydro system and the other in soil.

The Hydro plant obviously received various nutes, the soil plant received NO NUTES, that's right I said it NO NUTES in a 12 week grow.

The soil plant won, a bit of an anomaly perhaps because the Hydro plant had a rocky start.

But the point is people get confused when they see all these nutes and start thinking which ones they are going to need.

Lets clear this up, if you are growing in soil, the soil, the nutes are in your soil, that's why I and others make our own mixes.

The nutes market are primarily for Hydro growers because with out nutes there sh*t would not grow.

Get a good soil and nute sparingly, that's the beauty of soil.

No nutes are needed until the plants are at least 6 nodes tall, most soil growers dont give nutes until flowering or late veg depending on soil mix used and plant size.