1st grow unknown seeds

macjam · Apr 24, 2012

These are my 12 unknown plants from seed that i was given. they are a little over 3 weeks i have them under 4 x 600w hps lights at the moment which is actually my flower room but as i only have these on the go i thought why not move them, they were under 2 x 600w in veg room for a week before i moved 11 into here the mother stayed in the veg room. ive lst a little and am thinking of flipping to 12/12 what do you think. Im using dutch pro nutes. sorry for the poor picture quality, but they are very green.

grapesnowcone · Apr 24, 2012

Yeah, you could go to 12/12 anytime now. I'd wait maybe a week for those branches to grow upwards a lil more though..

red0021 · Apr 24, 2012

They look a bit hot, but very nice otherwise

macjam · Apr 24, 2012

Thanks for the comment, ive turned 1 light off now so only have 3 on maybe a little too much for them.

macjam · Apr 24, 2012

Im trying to hold out another week or maybe till friday Thanks

cues · Apr 24, 2012

If it were me, I would have them all under 1 600w for another week, bunched together in a corner. What's the point of using electric to light the floor? Next, I would give them another 2 weeks under 2x600w. Then I would think about flowering when the canopy is at least 60% full.
At the moment, I would say your canopy is about 15% full. Even if you are running a strain that has 3x stretch, you will only reach 45% potential if you flower now.
As you get to know your strain better, you will learn when to flip but, for now you are way, way too soon.
I understand your impatience. We have all been there. However, the satisfaction when you have 50 ounces is well worth it over the dissapointment when you have 10 because you rushed it.

macjam · Apr 24, 2012

cues said:
If it were me, I would have them all under 1 600w for another week, bunched together in a corner. What's the point of using electric to light the floor? Next, I would give them another 2 weeks under 2x600w. Then I would think about flowering when the canopy is at least 60% full.
At the moment, I would say your canopy is about 15% full. Even if you are running a strain that has 3x stretch, you will only reach 45% potential if you flower now.
As you get to know your strain better, you will learn when to flip but, for now you are way, way too soon.
I understand your impatience. We have all been there. However, the satisfaction when you have 50 ounces is well worth it over the dissapointment when you have 10 because you rushed it.

Thanks for some good advice as i said its my first grow. What would be the benefit of less light though? (to stretch?) also i have just started germinating 24 white widow that will go into my veg room for maybe 4/5 weeks then into this room with these, then it might get a bit crowded in there. Also have an e z cloner aswell.

cues · Apr 24, 2012

It's not about less light, it's about the area covered. 1 600w light covers an area about 4ft x 4 ft. If you can fit all your plants in that area, do so until they outgrow that footprint then turn a second light on and spread them out a bit. Remember, lit floor is wasted electric.
24 WW plants will fill that room well. They stretch about 2X. Are they feminised? If not, no matter. I would aim for about 16 fems (4 per 600w light). Grow until each is 1ft across (so, ideally, you would need a 4x4 veg cab and a 600w) then extend or shorten your veg time to compensate. In an ideal world, you will get 16 fems which will grow to 2 ft across each and fill your space perfectly. If all 24 are female and germinate, veg about 3 weeks (after first true leaves), if only half are fems, veg around 5 weeks. Just remember you are aiming for a full canopy hence the most efficiency.

Dutchmast3r · Apr 24, 2012

well it uses a hell of alot less electricity..and like he said ur not using the space u have why light the floor? itll save u about 80 bucks a month if u have them on 24/7 to take 2 out i bet..it doesnt hurt but its not nessesary right now ya know..

Dutchmast3r · Apr 24, 2012

by the way sounds like a beast first set up bro..

macjam · Apr 24, 2012

cues said:
It's not about less light, it's about the area covered. 1 600w light covers an area about 4ft x 4 ft. If you can fit all your plants in that area, do so until they outgrow that footprint then turn a second light on and spread them out a bit. Remember, lit floor is wasted electric.
24 WW plants will fill that room well. They stretch about 2X. Are they feminised? If not, no matter. I would aim for about 16 fems (4 per 600w light). Grow until each is 1ft across (so, ideally, you would need a 4x4 veg cab and a 600w) then extend or shorten your veg time to compensate. In an ideal world, you will get 16 fems which will grow to 2 ft across each and fill your space perfectly. If all 24 are female and germinate, veg about 3 weeks (after first true leaves), if only half are fems, veg around 5 weeks. Just remember you are aiming for a full canopy hence the most efficiency.

Again great advise i will be doing exactly what you have said tomorrow (as it makes complete sense) My veg room is 4`x8` with 2x 600w in and the flower room is 7`x 10` with 4 600w in. Yes they are all feminised seeds. Thanks i just thought more light more space the better.

macjam · Apr 24, 2012

Dutchmast3r said:
by the way sounds like a beast first set up bro..

Thanks for your input. My thoughts were if you going to do it may aswell go for it.

Dutchmast3r · Apr 24, 2012

hell ya man if i cudda i wudda

macjam · Apr 25, 2012

cues said:
If it were me, I would have them all under 1 600w for another week, bunched together in a corner. What's the point of using electric to light the floor? Next, I would give them another 2 weeks under 2x600w. Then I would think about flowering when the canopy is at least 60% full.
At the moment, I would say your canopy is about 15% full. Even if you are running a strain that has 3x stretch, you will only reach 45% potential if you flower now.
As you get to know your strain better, you will learn when to flip but, for now you are way, way too soon.
I understand your impatience. We have all been there. However, the satisfaction when you have 50 ounces is well worth it over the dissapointment when you have 10 because you rushed it.

Have now had a little change round in my room, i am now only running 2 600w in there as it was a little difficult to get them all under the 1 light, also have done a little more lst`ing took a few more photos and 6 of my WW are popping out from yesterday which is great. all comments and advice will be appreciated.

macjam · Apr 26, 2012

Been doing a little more lst`ing today and am pretty sure that im seeing pre flowers, the plants are about 4 weeks young give or take a couple of days could these be pre and if so should i flip now or can i carry on vegging. Will update photos tomorrow.

macjam · Apr 27, 2012

photo`s 4 weeks or so. Been trying to identify males and females its not as easy as i thought it would be, maybe i will be able to tell for definate soon. how are they looking guys and girls. Some input would be nice. cheers

The plant with lights off is my mother. Have now started 11 WW seeds just sprouted tap root!!! watch this space.

Dutchmast3r · Apr 27, 2012

those are some thick as fan leaves!

cues · Apr 28, 2012

I think it's a safe bet they're indicas!

macjam · Apr 30, 2012

update nearly 5 weeks veg starting to fill out nicely was not planing on lst`ing all my plants but have had to start tying down as they have had a growth spurt over the last day and gone a bit mad. 4 of the WW seedlings are looking good and also 2 clones have now started showing roots. please have a look and tell me what you think.View attachment 2147560 View attachment 2147561 View attachment 2147562 View attachment 2147563 View attachment 2147564 View attachment 2147565 View attachment 2147566 View attachment 2147567 View attachment 2147568 View attachment 2147569 View attachment 2147570

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